Real Jockeys.

[Joe Bloggs]

The ride by Josh Parr should be shown at apprentice school, oh and in cinemas and on tv in NZ........that's how it's done fellas, Josh might have to struggle through customs with the suitcase full of Dave's sling tho, go Josh.

[nomates]

I wonder what his opinion will be by the time he leaves these shores .

The rides by S Wynne on Okay Pal and T Mitchel on Sophie's Magic were tragic , especially the second , all but looked an obvious pull job but i know it wasn't , just absolutely horrible understanding of what was going on and what was required , wakey , wakey  miss Mitchell .

[Joe Bloggs]

Apparently there is one professional punter left in NZ. He lives in a nursing home in Herne Bay, the nurses put his bets on as he can't read or write, his punts are via grunts as the staff read out the horses name, 1 grunt for a win, 2 for a place, standard 100 each way, he's 103, bless him........played under water polo for  NZ NAVY, legend, if he hadn't of caught in a propeller when someone turned the motors on as he was cleaning them he would have still been in the Navy, NZ TAB  should worship at this icons bedside, it's triers like this that keep me punting and turning a blind eye to the steering by most postillions in NZ.

[Freda]

15 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said:

The ride by Josh Parr should be shown at apprentice school, oh and in cinemas and on tv in NZ........that's how it's done fellas, Josh might have to struggle through customs with the suitcase full of Dave's sling tho, go Josh.

A good ride, no doubt...but taking the short way home is pretty sensible if you can get one, especially with the saloon passage he got!

There is a battling jockey around here - usually on the slow buggers - who regularly takes the short way if possible.  Not going well enough to go around, but sometimes, comes off.

The apprentice schools should be shown the rides of Jamie Kah yesterday, and Tim Clark...when interviewed, Tim made mention of getting the ' sectionals right '  do any of these young riders know what a 'sectional ' is ?   Or, for that matter, most of the seniors as well,  or the stewards...time was, riders were hauled into the room for 'showing poor judgement'  ....

I am embarrassed to mention one of my sluggers in the same paragraph while referencing those superior performers yesterday...but I have a little mare, shortly to be retired as a twenty-something start maiden.  She regularly posts the best last 800 in her races.  But is ALWAYS in the wrong place, too far back, checked back while keen to improve, diving to the inside when she prefers room...she may only have the scope to win one, maybe two...but heartbreaking to see her trying with no results for her owners.

[nomates]

1 hour ago, Freda said:

I am embarrassed to mention one of my sluggers in the same paragraph while referencing those superior performers yesterday...but I have a little mare, shortly to be retired as a twenty-something start maiden.  She regularly posts the best last 800 in her races.  But is ALWAYS in the wrong place, too far back, checked back while keen to improve, diving to the inside when she prefers room...she may only have the scope to win one, maybe two...but heartbreaking to see her trying with no results for her owners.

With the standard after race statement by the jockey of " next time " . What they don't get is that sometimes in this universe there is no next time , today was the destined day , and they fucked it up .

[nomates]

16 hours ago, nomates said:

The rides by S Wynne on Okay Pal and T Mitchel on Sophie's Magic were tragic , especially the second , all but looked an obvious pull job but i know it wasn't , just absolutely horrible understanding of what was going on and what was required , wakey , wakey  miss Mitchell .

I see at least the stipes were awake enough to give Mitchell a bit of a grilling over her ride , which is a small miracle in it's self .

[Peanut]

17 hours ago, nomates said:

I wonder what his opinion will be by the time he leaves these shores .

The rides by S Wynne on Okay Pal and T Mitchel on Sophie's Magic were tragic , especially the second , all but looked an obvious pull job but i know it wasn't , just absolutely horrible understanding of what was going on and what was required , wakey , wakey  miss Mitchell .

And yet these two jockeys currently sit 7th and 8th on the premiership.   What a sad indictment on the overall quality of riders when in days gone by the top ten would all be household names.   This new boy Warren Kennedy looks to have the goods and hopefully Matt Cameron is back soon as at present the rider ranks have as much depth as a puddle.

    

Edited November 5, 2022 by Peanut

[KickintheKods]

I like Matty. He is a very good rider.........and I wish him well in his comeback.......but there is no way in the wide world he is staying overnight at our place.

[Joe Bloggs]

1 hour ago, KickintheKods said:

I like Matty. He is a very good rider.........and I wish him well in his comeback.......but there is no way in the wide world he is staying overnight at our place.

You'd need to sleep with one eye open, and we know which eye that is....!

[nomates]

2 hours ago, Peanut said:

And yet these two jockeys currently sit 7th and 8th on the premiership.   What a sad indictment on the overall quality of riders when in days gone by the top ten would all be household names.   This new boy Warren Kennedy looks to have the goods and hopefully Matt Cameron is back soon as at present the rider ranks have as much depth as a puddle.

    

It's a sad indictment on our current riding ranks for sure . I really rate T Mitchell , she sits well and can actually use the whip without looking like she is actually shitting herself when taking one hand off the reins , but she didn't have to be a brain surgeon to realise what she was doing yesterday .

As for S Wynne don't get me started , she does my head in , some of her rides leave me dumbfounded , plus i don't think she rides well in big races most of the time , when she does , well even a clock that isn't working gets it right twice a day . But she's not alone in that department .

[nomates]

As for Warren Kennedy , guy is class , hopefully him and the other new kid pressure some of the locals to up their game . 

We should be looking to try and get more of this type of jockey over here . We have plenty to offer , lifestyle wise .

[Joe Bloggs]

18 minutes ago, nomates said:

As for Warren Kennedy , guy is class , hopefully him and the other new kid pressure some of the locals to up their game . 

We should be looking to try and get more of this type of jockey over here . We have plenty to offer , lifestyle wise .

Sadly, many [thousands] of Saffies use NZ as the means to reach Oz, they stay, get their residency and flee the coup, we have so many live near us and are quite open about it, Oz was always the target, NZ need to close the loophole NM, the immigration laws are flawed. 

Then again, even if they only stay for as long as it takes, it's better than status quo, the money here is only going to get better racing wise it must be a real carrot.

Barend Forster is the latest arrival, but the fella that won on ours a few weeks back is a Gr1 winning jock too, soon there will be no-one left in ZA.

[Joe Bloggs]

Should read Vorster, sorry Oke!!!....Lekker....

[nod]

Tayla is a claiming apprentice so you should not expect the polish of a J Mac

She has good balance and can get them out of the gates as well as Sam Spratt

I personally think she rode one perfectly yesterday

[nomates]

2 minutes ago, nod said:

Tayla is a claiming apprentice so you should not expect the polish of a J Mac

She has good balance and can get them out of the gates as well as Sam Spratt

I personally think she rode one perfectly yesterday

I appreciate what you say , no one said anything about being up with J Mac , read above the positives i said about her , but that ride on Sophie's Magic all but looked like a pull job , i know it wasn't but seriously it's not good enough at any level .

[Joe Bloggs]

21 minutes ago, nomates said:

I appreciate what you say , no one said anything about being up with J Mac , read above the positives i said about her , but that ride on Sophie's Magic all but looked like a pull job , i know it wasn't but seriously it's not good enough at any level .

Was she referred to the riding master? or riding panel? if not, why not?.......she's only going to improve with tuition and criticism as per your comment........I watched the replay, boy, that ride would have copped her a rebuke by the stipes here.....what a difference 2000km of ocean makes.

[Joe Bloggs]

On reflection, that young lady would have been sent to the bush to ride for a month here....once the stewards had studied the betting moves!......A jockey should not ride their mounts as to bring into question the integrity of such.......sadly that didn't happen with that ride.

[curious]

25 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Was she referred to the riding master? or riding panel? if not, why not?.......she's only going to improve with tuition and criticism as per your comment........I watched the replay, boy, that ride would have copped her a rebuke by the stipes here.....what a difference 2000km of ocean makes.

She was grilled by the stipes in the presence of the riding mentor. I think that's a reasonable response by offcials, similar to what would be likely over there.

SOPHIA’S MAGIC (T Mitchell) - Began awkwardly. Improved onto heels near the 100 metres then was unable to obtain clear running for the remainder of the race. When questioned regarding her riding tactics apprentice T Mitchell in the presence of riding mentor N Harris, advised that she had been instructed to ride her mount quietly in the early stages as the mare had previously tended to over-race during the middle stages after being asked to improve in the early stages. After settling towards the rear of the field she had elected to ease her mount as she had initially been caught three wide. Further advising that rounding the final bend she had been reluctant to improve into a run inside of HOT PINX as that runner appeared to be checking off heels and shifting inwards near the 450 metres.
Upon viewing films T Mitchell conceded that in hindsight she may have erred in her judgement. Stewards advised T Mitchell that she would be expected to ride in a manner that does not leave herself open to query in the future.

Edited November 6, 2022 by curious

[Joe Bloggs]

Ok, thanks Curious, I do feel though, that ride did deserve a tad more than a ' scolding by Noel', anyone with a decent wager on that steed would be more than pissed.

[nomates]

32 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Ok, thanks Curious, I do feel though, that ride did deserve a tad more than a ' scolding by Noel', anyone with a decent wager on that steed would be more than pissed.

There was a few with a decent wager , 11's to 4.5 suggests that there were a few disgruntled punters , i was a disgruntled punter but my bet wasn't decent thankfully , still bloody annoying when you can see she is having a nap .