Time The Plug Is Pulled On Palmerston North Surely?

[Ludwig]

2 hours ago, Taku Umanga said:

Perhaps the plug should be pulled on Auckland judging by this week's fields - Manawatu will get more participants next week?

Just 45 at Auckland. Woeful. Yet last week at Orari nearly four times that number, yet it's the course they want to close. Madness.

[mikeynz]

22 minutes ago, Ludwig said:

Just 45 at Auckland. Woeful. Yet last week at Orari nearly four times that number, yet it's the course they want to close. Madness.

Madness now rules in HRNZ,even Guerin on the box seat suggested that if people and trainers want to go to Orari then let them or words to that affect.

Also stated when discussing the big meeting at Addington,its a sunday, it's on trackside 1, on saturdays harness racing gets poked on to 2, and the big races from ozzie get priority, yet Invercargills big race is you guessed it on a saturday, just another HRNZ cock up.

Getting back to Auckland, we all know two meetings in two days dont work, no reason why they couldn't just have 1 meet with more races, maybe if its after 10 it might be too late past everyones bed time, rarely does a meeting go after 9 30 these days.

Edited November 29, 2022 by mikeynz

[Brodie]

Harness racing is in a dire situation in most parts NEW ZEALAND!

It is due to many decisions being made by HRNZ and the NZ TAB!
However, I do not believe we have seen anything yet as the true cost to the economy shows up in 2023 from the shocking performance from the current Communist Labour Party that over 50% of the population surprisingly voted for!

Many People that currently own horses will just not be able to afford to to race the horses , due to the cost of living increases that havent hit us fully yet.

Auckland will continue to provide small numbers of horses and some meetings will be abandoned.

Training costs are just far too high to justify racing horses if you want any reasonable return on your investment!!

Auckland continues to be a drain on the coffers and just can not continue the way it is currently going!

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Brodie

[the galah]

 

4 hours ago, mikeynz said:

Madness now rules in HRNZ,even Guerin on the box seat suggested that if people and trainers want to go to Orari then let them or words to that affect.

Also stated when discussing the big meeting at Addington,its a sunday, it's on trackside 1, on saturdays harness racing gets poked on to 2, and the big races from ozzie get priority, yet Invercargills big race is you guessed it on a saturday, just another HRNZ cock up.

Getting back to Auckland, we all know two meetings in two days dont work, no reason why they couldn't just have 1 meet with more races, maybe if its after 10 it might be too late past everyones bed time, rarely does a meeting go after 9 30 these days.

Maybe its time to recognise that allowing clubs to continue to operate, if they can provide their own funding of stakes through turnover/sponsorship/their own forms....,is the best thing to do for the overall good of the industry.

Is it not just a matter of saying to them, you have to provide minimum stakes of ....and that hrnz will do everything to help run the meetings but your on your own as far as receiving funding for upkeep of racetracks and facilities.Also they have to meet a mutually agreed formula to show the clubs wealth is not being significantly eroded through the running of their meetings.

So the destiny of the clubs if back in their own hands ,even if it may be on terms which make it harder to continue and prosper.

If they can still keep going then why stop them? If the bigger clubs are banking on using the money of the clubs they close then maybe its time they were realistic and operate within a realistic budget themselves.

I also think these type of clubs need to race between december and february. They are weather dependant and its seems so cold in the likes of november these days.They should gbe a circuit of sirts.

Edited November 29, 2022 by the galah

[the galah]

3 hours ago, Brodie said:

Harness racing is in a dire situation in most parts NEW ZEALAND!

It is due to many decisions being made by HRNZ and the NZ TAB!
However, I do not believe we have seen anything yet as the true cost to the economy shows up in 2023 from the shocking performance from the current Communist Labour Party that over 50% of the population surprisingly voted for!

Many People that currently own horses will just not be able to afford to to race the horses , due to the cost of living increases that havent hit us fully yet.

Auckland will continue to provide small numbers of horses and some meetings will be abandoned.

Training costs are just far too high to justify racing horses if you want any reasonable return on your investment!!

Auckland continues to be a drain on the coffers and just can not continue the way it is currently going!

 

I think brodie its about time everyone,from administrators/licence holders/owners just become realists and admit that stake levels need to reflect what the industries income dictates they can realistically provide.  

It beats me what good it does for everyone to go on about stake levels.

Its not going to change,so every should stop the moaning and focus on the many,many facets of the industry that makes it so great and attractive.

Thats the only way you move forward.

The industry should have a 10/20 year plan.Where is the vision. It must be realistic.

Harness racing has the ingredients to have a future if packaged and sold correctly.

Unfortunately the glory days are gone,but we have to accept that and carry on keep harness racing relevant and accessible.It starts with being realistic, honest and positive.

Edited November 29, 2022 by the galah

[the galah]

I agree with you brodie that some decisions made by the tab actually stop people betting.

Personally my turnover through the tote would only be about 10% of what it was say a year ago.Thats a direct consequence of some of the tabs policies and how it impacts tote prices.

Edited November 29, 2022 by the galah

[Brodie]

4 minutes ago, the galah said:

I agree with you brodie that some decisions made by the tab actually stop people betting.

Personally my turnover through the tote would only be about 10% of what it was say a year ago.Thats a direct consequence of some of the tabs policies and how it impacts tote prices.

Harness needs to get people back on course to enjoy the racing to entice them to wager on harness!
Without new people being attracted to harness racing it will certainly disappear.

Without the wagering there will not be any money to pay stake money and therefore there will be no owners as existing owners move on to greener pastures.

Reality is that harness administrators and the NZ TAB are just going through their paces at the moment and hoping things will improve.

Unfortunately I can not see things improving while so many have their heads in the sand and collect their remuneration for doing very little!

 

 

[Brodie]

Down to 41 starters at Auckland Friday night!

Tragic for racing in the North Island!

The tote pools for Cambridge tonight are pathetic with very little in the pools!

Can things get any worse for the North Island?

Probably unfortunately.

[mikeynz]

Small noms for Auckland again, small noms for Invercargill, 9 for the cup, spose  in today's world not bad but, running in competition with Aussie racing probably no one will notice,.