the galah Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) This horse is in race 5 at addington on friday. Its the highest rating horse at r56,yet its It's only won 2 races,the least in the field along with one other who is rated r50. The other 10 starters have won 51 races between them. How is it that the rating system seems to unfairly punish the likes of adesanya,simply because he is a 4 year old. I see the owners of adesanya are mostly the same owners of dance till dawn,a 4 win,11 placing group 1 placed horse from 35 starts whose won over $110,000 more. Yet adesanya is rated 5 points higher. The handicapping system seems flawed.It is supposed to treat all horses and their connections fairly, But clearly when you look at horses like adesanya,it doesn't.Obviously being a 4yo hes too old to get any concessions,so if his owners weren't so wealthy ,he would most likely be sold. Edited June 6, 2023 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 hours ago, the galah said: This horse is in race 5 at addington on friday. Its the highest rating horse at r56,yet its It's only won 2 races,the least in the field along with one other who is rated r50. The other 10 starters have won 51 races between them. How is it that the rating system seems to unfairly punish the likes of adesanya,simply because he is a 4 year old. I see the owners of adesanya are mostly the same owners of dance till dawn,a 4 win,11 placing group 1 placed horse from 35 starts whose won over $110,000 more. Yet adesanya is rated 5 points higher. The handicapping system seems flawed.It is supposed to treat all horses and their connections fairly, But clearly when you look at horses like adesanya,it doesn't.Obviously being a 4yo hes too old to get any concessions,so if his owners weren't so wealthy ,he would most likely be sold. His first tote win incurred no rating penalty (he stayed on 48) which I don't understand, and his second win incurred the full 8 points. He hasn't dropped back because he's consistently finished in the top 4 since. Overall, I can't see how he's been unfairly punished (probably the opposite unless the free win can be explained). There are ways to get points discounts, like putting a concession junior driver on to earn half points only - if the owners choose not to, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Taku Umanga said: His first tote win incurred no rating penalty (he stayed on 48) which I don't understand, and his second win incurred the full 8 points. He hasn't dropped back because he's consistently finished in the top 4 since. Overall, I can't see how he's been unfairly punished (probably the opposite unless the free win can be explained). There are ways to get points discounts, like putting a concession junior driver on to earn half points only - if the owners choose not to, so be it. You've pointed out that he has been penalised as per the handicapping system rules.So in that respect,yes he has been treated as he should be. However thats not the point i'm making. I'm saying if the rules were fair,anyone should be able to look at adesanya's record in comparison to the others he is running against,and easily see why he is rated so much higher. But you can't. The horse with the lowest number of wins,the 2nd lowest in stakes is the clear top rated. If he were to win that race, he would then have to run in the highest ranked race on the night and would theoretically be rated above warloch,evangalist,tom martin,jack tar and casino action. Thats just not fair. You point out that he should be looking to get point concessions.Well of course he can't change his age,because once you reach 4 the handicapping system thinks you should get double the points penalty compared to a 3yo. And as to using a concession driver. Like who?Theres only been a couple of concession drivers recently who look to come close to matching the skills of his regular driver,and they are about to lose their concession status anyway.So in reality you are suggesting he put a driver on to lessen his chances,so he runs nowhere for a few times. The way i see the handicapping rules have to a degree always been written so as to advantage those who have had the input into what they actually are. Its like some group complains and to placate them they give that groups horses a discount. Adesanya has all the wrong credentials to be treated fairly. He has reached the age of 4 years and is a horse that comes from a stable that considers he performs best with a top driver on. Any sensible owner/trainer out there should look at him and ask themselves. Will my horse be able to win races before he turns 4. If the answer is no or he is late to mature and they want some longevity out of him by not pushing him early, then those owner and trainers must seriously consider why they should bother paying training fees to a trainer when he is going to be so harshly treated in comparison to others. Edited June 6, 2023 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhinged Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: His first tote win incurred no rating penalty (he stayed on 48) which I don't understand, and his second win incurred the full 8 points. He hasn't dropped back because he's consistently finished in the top 4 since. Overall, I can't see how he's been unfairly punished (probably the opposite unless the free win can be explained). There are ways to get points discounts, like putting a concession junior driver on to earn half points only - if the owners choose not to, so be it. Free win explained, every horse's first win is penalty free you simplify move out of non win rating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 7/06/2023 at 2:57 PM, Unhinged said: Free win explained, every horse's first win is penalty free you simplify move out of non win rating Duh - that fact totally slipped my mind - cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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