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Special Agent Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Good luck to Entain in turning these turnovers around. All bar Oamaru realised a drop in revenue from last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Special Agent said: Good luck to Entain in turning these turnovers around. All bar Oamaru realised a drop in revenue from last season. Economic chickens coming home to roost thanks to the cock up that is the labour govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Bill said: Economic chickens coming home to roost thanks to the cock up that is the labour govt. Racing Industry does not need assistance from the Government to cock things up, they can stand alone in delivering results in that area. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 None of those figures are flash, some are just not quite as bad as others. I didn't actually realise things were quite so bad. I suppose on the positive side things are coming off such a low base Entain should be able to hopefully show some improvement. But really, you do wonder what on earth they saw of value in the NZ Racing industry. There have always been people on here saying we must increase stakes. When you see the best we can hope for turnover wise in the winter months is about $40,000 on and $1.4m off, it does make you wonder where on earth that stakes money is coming from. Interestingly enough the Cambridge JC held a low key mid week meeting on 3 July 1991 with on course t/o of $224,416 and off course of $2,029,602. Two races at $10,000, the rest mostly $7,000. These days we expect to fund a raceday with $500,000 in stakes on less turnover than that. You have to marvel at the stakes that are generated off tiny turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Doomed said: But really, you do wonder what on earth they saw of value in the NZ Racing industry. A conspiracy theorist would say it looks like a front for something else. I share your skepticism. Stake money won't be the problem soon. The real kicker is where the horses are going to come from to compete. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 If NZTR keep making daft decisions - such as the Wingatui meeting yesterday, with Oamaru just up the road - Entain will be wondering indeed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 So when do the personnel at Entain start to have any input into decisions that effect turnover, because ultimately it's the promise of increased turnover that brought Entain to our door/rescue? Is it going to be status quo for the two years of the staff safety net before any changes are apparent? To me it's a bit like living with bad governmental decisions. Two years is a long time if bad spending is the trend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Special Agent said: So when do the personnel at Entain start to have any input into decisions that effect turnover, because ultimately it's the promise of increased turnover that brought Entain to our door/rescue? Is it going to be status quo for the two years of the staff safety net before any changes are apparent? To me it's a bit like living with bad governmental decisions. Two years is a long time if bad spending is the trend. Yes, I don't know about that. However, don't forget that the two year promise pertains to TAB staff....and they don't make the day to day operational decisions that the codes do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 And you would trust them with your life, wouldn't you!! Promises can be broken too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 And let us be negative for a while ... or maybe it's practical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 5/07/2023 at 8:47 AM, Special Agent said: So when do the personnel at Entain start to have any input into decisions that effect turnover, because ultimately it's the promise of increased turnover that brought Entain to our door/rescue? I wouldn't be surprised if the TAB sold Entain the business using highly inflated figures. The number of account holders in the TAB system would definitely be inflated. Most of them have joined just to get the $10 deposit bonus for joining, spent it and buggered off never to be seen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 1:16 AM, Bill said: Economic chickens coming home to roost thanks to the cock up that is the labour govt. And just how does Labour deserve any blame....N.F.I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 45 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: And just how does Labour deserve any blame....N.F.I. The Labour Muppets deserve every bit of blame that you can lay on then. The most arrogant bunch of racially divisive numpties in the history of New Zealand. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 hours ago, holy ravioli said: And just how does Labour deserve any blame....N.F.I. Because they have completely rooted the country. Look at the crime, out of control and all the other absurd bs they have wasted money on. Absolute disgrace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Bill said: Because they have completely rooted the country. Look at the crime, out of control and all the other absurd bs they have wasted money on. Absolute disgrace. Well the Tories will not solve the crime. Their policy has changed so many times. Boot Camps which they have now reneged on and announcing policy which is already in law. Hey, remember Crusher Collins her legislation crushed 3 cars and if they really cared about the law they would have reported to the Police the MP who took a photo of his Dick and sent it to young ladies and Bill English who was falsely claiming rent from the taxpayer for a properly that he owned through a family Trust! He paid it back but surely, he should have been charged with Fraud. Remember John Key's war against "P" that was a huge failure. Also, when we had they occupation of Parliament where were the Tories on that? They stayed very quiet. Let's not forget Nathan Guy what did that clown do as Minister of Racing? Appointed a National Party Hack as Chair and she appointed a broken-down failed State Servant and both knew zilch about Racing. At least Entain has knowledge of betting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Bloke said: At least Entain has knowledge of betting But no knowledge of racing or control of providing the product for betting. In that regard we still have the same old same old but with more money to waste. Where that money comes from no one knows but it certainly isn't betting on New Zealand racing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 So, it boils down -still- to a five year stay of execution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: But no knowledge of racing or control of providing the product for betting. In that regard we still have the same old same old but with more money to waste. Where that money comes from no one knows but it certainly isn't betting on New Zealand racing. True, but clowns like Guy have forced this to be the last throw of the dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 11 hours ago, Bill said: Because they have completely rooted the country. Look at the crime, out of control and all the other absurd bs they have wasted money on. Absolute disgrace. The Natz spent 9 years selling the country.As for crime the stats tell a different story. The root cause of this youth crime ,which is occurring all around the world is the inequality foistered on nations by Rogernomics,Thatcherism,Reaganism...call it what you will! Trickle down,user pays b/s that has enriched the few at the expense of the ..many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: The root cause of this youth crime ,which is occurring all around the world is the inequality foistered on nations by Rogernomics,Thatcherism,Reaganism...call it what you will! So you blame Governments from nearly 50 years ago? Yet largely left wing Governments since have done nothing? 22 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Trickle down,user pays b/s that has enriched the few at the expense of the ..many. Well handing out large sums of cash to every aggrieved minority hasn't worked out too well has it? If there is any proof needed that socialism doesn't work then it is the Arden/Robertson Government. But then you'll blame everything else for their efforts. I suggest you just stick to reading Marx in your Government funded sinecure and not bother the rest of us with your ludicrous theories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Well, it was this "Socialist" Government that gave $70M to racing to ensure its survival. It was a Tory Government that gave us Guy to root it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/9/2023 at 9:25 AM, holy ravioli said: The Natz spent 9 years selling the country. Sold NZ to whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Special Agent said: Sold NZ to whom? Any foreigner with money that wanted to buy land or businesses in NZ.Holus ,bolus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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