Chief Stipe Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Aside from the obvious grammatical error..... Looks like you need to provide surveillance of yourself to sign up..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Its all lie's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Aside from the obvious grammatical error..... Looks like you need to provide surveillance of yourself to sign up..... Maybe have to provide your finger prints as well? They do treat some NZ punters as if they are criminals! How dare they win money off us, do we must stop them from doing this! We need to also check that they are not investing $1k or winning $1k as they are possibly money launderers, so they need to identify themselves or they are breaking the law! NZ has certainly deteriorated over the last few years being controlled by the biggest bunch of losers we could possibly get! Labour’s best for the justice portfolio restricts arrest for breaking the law, you just couldnt make this up lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Brodie said: We need to also check that they are not investing $1k or winning $1k as they are possibly money launderers, so they need to identify themselves or they are breaking the law! These AML laws are getting interpreted way over the top. I recently helped someone resettle a Family Trust's assets to a new Trust. Nothing extra was added. They had been a customer of a major bank for over 30 years i.e. the bank had visibility of all the transactions from all their entities. They were not a customer of another bank. Took nearly 6 weeks to get all the forms and information requests sorted out including having to prove how the financial assets were accumulated. Even though it was clearly visible in the accounts! Then I helped out an Incorporated Society put some money on Term Deposit at the same bank. They had used the same bank since day dot i.e. they had all the transaction history. The money accumulated was clearly from membeship fees. The organisations Executive that are the bank authorised signees hasn't changed in 5 years! Eight weeks and still working through paper work including individual identity matching. No wonder the country is grinding to a halt. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Yep, totally ridiculous load of BS is the AML rules being applied! You want to buy a property you have to say where the money to buy is coming from to purchase even though it is obvious to the Bank or Agent! You want to invest money and it is not easy at all, it is just a total load of BS and over the top. If a Trust is involved in anything it is even made so much harder again. The biggest launderers of money is this so called Government that needed to be gone 5 years ago, and never ever return! The damage they have done in 6 years is going to take decades to recover from! From the financial disaster of all there wastage of money to the divisiveness that the tossers have created! co governance my xxxx. Then we have a rascist TPM party that get away with what they are saying and want to bring the Treaty of Waitangi claims back FFS!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: These AML laws are getting interpreted way over the top. I recently helped someone resettle a Family Trust's assets to a new Trust. Nothing extra was added. They had been a customer of a major bank for over 30 years i.e. the bank had visibility of all the transactions from all their entities. They were not a customer of another bank. Took nearly 6 weeks to get all the forms and information requests sorted out including having to prove how the financial assets were accumulated. Even though it was clearly visible in the accounts! Then I helped out an Incorporated Society put some money on Term Deposit at the same bank. They had used the same bank since day dot i.e. they had all the transaction history. The money accumulated was clearly from membeship fees. The organisations Executive that are the bank authorised signees hasn't changed in 5 years! Eight weeks and still working through paper work including individual identity matching. No wonder the country is grinding to a halt. Trouble is Brodie that there are no real strong opposition at the moment.People will vote National or ACT because they oppose Labour,not because they think the politicians in these parties are any better.National doesnt really have many policies outlined and dont have a John Key type financial whiz in there party.So many party leaders in last 5 years has also created an unstable working situation for them. Believe me there are still a lot of National MPs that dont back there leader.NZ politics is the worst it's ever been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, Richie said: Trouble is Brodie that there are no real strong opposition at the moment.People will vote National or ACT because they oppose Labour,not because they think the politicians in these parties are any better.National doesnt really have many policies outlined and dont have a John Key type financial whiz in there party.So many party leaders in last 5 years has also created an unstable working situation for them. Believe me there are still a lot of National MPs that dont back there leader.NZ politics is the worst it's ever been Oops sorry Chief,was supposed to quote Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Richie said: Oops sorry Chief,was supposed to quote Brodie That's OK. We see both handsome men who take the TAB to the cleaners regularly. 😛 I disagree with your analysis. I think ACT and the NATS have a lot more depth than the current lot. Another difference is that there are less career politicians and bureaucrats on the blue/yellow side i.e. people who have worked in real jobs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatchcock Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 A person i know last week put a bet on a Addington dogs power play to win 2k. The bet was not a winner. They were immediately cut to $40 profit max on Power Plays. Nice of Entain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: That's OK. We see both handsome men who take the TAB to the cleaners regularly. 😛 I disagree with your analysis. I think ACT and the NATS have a lot more depth than the current lot. Another difference is that there are less career politicians and bureaucrats on the blue/yellow side i.e. people who have worked in real jobs. 😂😂 I dont actually think we have much depth at all in politics at the moment.For the first time ever I may not even vote this year.Im a believer that people shouldn't vote just for the sake of it.TOP party was growing on me for a while but they have gone off on a weird tangent last couple of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Richie said: 😂😂 I dont actually think we have much depth at all in politics at the moment.For the first time ever I may not even vote this year.Im a believer that people shouldn't vote just for the sake of it.TOP party was growing on me for a while but they have gone off on a weird tangent last couple of years the red cod are turning blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) I dont agree with everything that National come out with! However most in National if not all do have life successes and business brains in most cases! There is not a single person that we have seen from Labour over the past 6 years that have achieved anything that says that they should be making decisions for NEW ZEALAND! Labour have totally destroyed a once great country all because they are totally incompetent and have been successful at stuffing up everything! Chippy has had several portfolios over the last 2 terms and they are all in a dire straight! NEW ZEALAND has become so divisive due to government BS decisions and seriously this MAORI language that is being chucked down our throats every day is just repulsive!! If you want to Speak Maori then do it but the rest of us are just sick and tired of it! We live in NEW ZEALAND and not the Maori name for it! Media has been under the total control of Labour and its cohorts and it needs to STOP!!!! Edited July 24, 2023 by Brodie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Brodie said: I dont agree with everything that National come out with! However most in National if not all do have life successes and business brains in most cases! There is not a single person that we have seen from Labour over the past 6 years that have achieved anything that says that they should be making decisions for NEW ZEALAND! Labour have totally destroyed a once great country all because they are totally incompetent and have been successful at stuffing up everything! Chippy has had several portfolios over the last 2 terms and they are all in a dire straight! NEW ZEALAND has become so divisive due to government BS decisions and seriously this MAORI language that is being chucked down our throats every day is just repulsive!! If you want to Speak Maori then do it but the rest of us are just sick and tired of it! We live in NEW ZEALAND and not the Maori name for it! Media has been under the total control of Labour and its cohorts and it needs to STOP!!!! I agree the media is driving a lot of the division,but unfortunately how they operate works.They see division as a tool to promote their views,then complain about the division they actually help create. Also,Many people are happy to think in the majority without giving any logical thought to what it is they are supporting. Respect for opposing views is disappearing and its the media and unfortunately politicians who are driving it. Christopher luxon weakness is a consequence of that,for it seems his first consideration before speaking is ,how will i be judged if i say this,instead of having the confidence to actually just say and do what he thinks is right. That ,in my opinion,is why national is not currently as popular as it should be. The recent shooting in auckland was another example of how the media approach the race subject,which they normally happily use to divide.. The samoans are now talking about the relationships between different pasifika groups,yet that got little coverage from mainsteam media as when it comes to that subject its only newsworthy if the shooter had been white. Edited July 24, 2023 by the galah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Brodie said: I dont agree with everything that National come out with! However most in National if not all do have life successes and business brains in most cases! There is not a single person that we have seen from Labour over the past 6 years that have achieved anything that says that they should be making decisions for NEW ZEALAND! Labour have totally destroyed a once great country all because they are totally incompetent and have been successful at stuffing up everything! Chippy has had several portfolios over the last 2 terms and they are all in a dire straight! NEW ZEALAND has become so divisive due to government BS decisions and seriously this MAORI language that is being chucked down our throats every day is just repulsive!! If you want to Speak Maori then do it but the rest of us are just sick and tired of it! We live in NEW ZEALAND and not the Maori name for it! Media has been under the total control of Labour and its cohorts and it needs to STOP!!!! There is something big happening in NZ Politics at the moment that is hidden in clear view. Our media is happy to ignore and or minimize it's significance. That something is New Zealand First. Nobody in NZ Politics can time their run better than Winston Peters. NZF is his his baby and his legacy. 2023 is his last opportunity to resuscitate it. He has trainloads of ammunition and a growing army of supporters. They are the disillusioned voters who've been mocked, ignored and even disrespected. They have been crying out for a voice. Peters will be that voice. Very few are questioning if the Chocolate Teapot Party also known as the Greens will get back in. 100 people attended their campaign launch on Sunday. NZF also had their campaign launch on Sunday. 500+ attended that launch. The media are questioning if NZF will break through the 5%. Only then will they wake up. I think a more appropriate question would be if they will get a higher percentage of the vote than the Greens. I say absolutely yes. Closer to 10% than 5% that's for sure. Luxon will be the new Prime Minister come October 14. The new Government will be a coalition of National, New Zealand First and ACT. This result was inevitable even before Kiri Allan fell off the deep end. A coalition of just National and ACT will alarm some. NZF gives it a much better balance in my opinion. Winston Peters will be back being the Minister of Racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlong Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Richie said: 😂😂 I dont actually think we have much depth at all in politics at the moment.For the first time ever I may not even vote this year.Im a believer that people shouldn't vote just for the sake of it.TOP party was growing on me for a while but they have gone off on a weird tangent last couple of years Richie if you don't want to vote for a party then put your voting papers in blank. This will then count as a protest vote which are usually 30-50 thousand per election.. Personally I like the look of the DemocracyNZ party who look the best of the minor parties and are getting a good following around the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Walt said: There is something big happening in NZ Politics at the moment that is hidden in clear view. Our media is happy to ignore and or minimize it's significance. That something is New Zealand First. Nobody in NZ Politics can time their run better than Winston Peters. NZF is his his baby and his legacy. 2023 is his last opportunity to resuscitate it. He has trainloads of ammunition and a growing army of supporters. They are the disillusioned voters who've been mocked, ignored and even disrespected. They have been crying out for a voice. Peters will be that voice. Very few are questioning if the Chocolate Teapot Party also known as the Greens will get back in. 100 people attended their campaign launch on Sunday. NZF also had their campaign launch on Sunday. 500+ attended that launch. The media are questioning if NZF will break through the 5%. Only then will they wake up. I think a more appropriate question would be if they will get a higher percentage of the vote than the Greens. I say absolutely yes. Closer to 10% than 5% that's for sure. Luxon will be the new Prime Minister come October 14. The new Government will be a coalition of National, New Zealand First and ACT. This result was inevitable even before Kiri Allan fell off the deep end. A coalition of just National and ACT will alarm some. NZF gives it a much better balance in my opinion. Winston Peters will be back being the Minister of Racing. I've always been a swinging voter and have voted nz first several times,although didn't last time as i thought winston somehow lost himself a bit in what he was saying, leading into the last election. So far this year he seems more like the old winston that i respected. The media coverage of the launch the other day was a little bewildering. They showed a packed room with no vacant seats,then the reporter said the numbers were somewhat disappointing as there were many empty seats. I actually thought i must of heard it wrong so rewound it,but sure enough thats what she said despite showing pictures to the contrary. When the media start disparaging him is when you know he is saying things they don't want to give coverage and is a good sign. His move to throw more support behind those who believed in freedom of choice about the vaccines i believe to be a good move. Its something i think he was surprisingly slow to capitalise on originally,but with one of his candidates being a well known anti mandate doctor,it seems a good move to support the freedom of choice views that a significant part of the population have and that other parties,apart from perhaps act, have ignored. It was only a couple of months ago i was thinking a vote for nz first may be a wasted vote,but given the old winston seems to have re emerged at this stage,NZ first may have a chance after all. Edited July 25, 2023 by the galah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, the galah said: I've always been a swinging voter and have voted nz first several times,although didn't last time as i thought winston somehow lost himself a bit in what he was saying, leading into the last election. So far this year he seems more like the old winston that i respected. The media coverage of the launch the other day was a little bewildering. They showed a packed room with no vacant seats,then the reporter said the numbers were somewhat disappointing as there were many empty seats. I actually thought i must of heard it wrong so rewound it,but sure enough thats what she said despite showing pictures to the contrary. When the media start disparaging him is when you know he is saying things they don't want to give coverage and is a good sign. His move to throw more support behind those who believed in freedom of choice about the vaccines i believe to be a good move. Its something i think he was surprisingly slow to capitalise on originally,but with one of his candidates being a well known anti mandate doctor,it seems a good move to support the freedom of choice views that a significant part of the population have and that other parties,apart from perhaps act, have ignored. It was only a couple of months ago i was thinking a vote for nz first may be a wasted vote,but given the old winston seems to have re emerged at this stage,NZ first may have a chance after all. Many lost faith in Winston toward the end of the first Labour's first term. As he got more frustrated and snarly with Labour the support of NZF dropped away. At times he doesn't respond well when being attacked and or misrepresented. When he loses that smile or smirk, you know he's losing the battle. I believe his support this time around comes from numerous areas. The anti vaccine mandate support is clearly present along with a lot of kiwi's that strongly resent racist policies that send gifts to one section of society while dumping guilt on others who have no voice. If people express frustration about this they are quickly labeled racist. This should never be the way forward for any group to evolve. Many believe "Hate Speech" legislation is little more than a weapon for vested interest to gain complete control of the narrative. I deplore racists and feel anyone that dislikes someone based on their skin colour or religious beliefs are just ignorant. Having said that, shutting down robust discussion because you disagree with someone is an appalling dynamic, especially in a democratic country. We need a balance there. I feel NZF recognize that. The transgender situation is diabolical. I couldn't care less what you want to identify as. That movement want to force everyone to just accept their "normal" as your normal. You must use the new pronouns they demand. If you dare to have a different take on reality you are attacked, abused, misrepresented, described as transphobic dinosaurs, shut down and canceled. The trans movement can say anything they like and demand it. Others are prohibited from that freedom of speech. We have to be a certain age to vote, drive, buy alcohol or go to war. Why? Because people far smarter than I are adamant the human brain requires x numbers of years to develop enough to make such important decisions. That has all been thrown out the window now so we have the obscene and outrageous situation of young children choosing their gender and educational institutions indoctrinating young people into the trans movement. It's well past time open and robust discussions are the status quo. We are light years away from that at this time. It needs to be safe for everyone to participate in the discussion. NZF are gaining support in this area. Crime and gangs are out of control and the situation is only getting worse. NZF is getting traction in this fight. I noted the experts on Newshub Nation stated Winston Peters will struggle to make a comeback, how there's no room for NZF and Winston Peters is stuck between the 20th and 21st century. Thankfully, they don't get to decide who people vote for and why. Watch them squirm in their seats when they see NZF break through the 5% mark in the next poll and they are only just getting warmed up. Winston Peters and NZF will be king maker all over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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