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    • Chief Stipe
      Foxton Trials Heat 25

      By Chief Stipe · Posted

      Bollocks.  It's only "abuse" based on a flawed definition and "cheating" based on an artificial construct!  But I'm sure the team on NZ'S Premier Anti-racing Forum agree with you.  
    • curious
      Foxton Trials Heat 25

      By curious · Posted

      They can't see the whip infringements on the clearest of days, so they'd love that to give them another excuse to allow the abuse and cheating to continue.
    • the galah
      $45000 for 4 2yo Trotters

      By the galah · Posted

      well,i have to point out this topic is  another in a long list of topics about the same subject. i.e. the very small field size in so many 2 year old races,often with the higher stake races. i've never disagreed with you when you say people will be aiming to have their horses in these races when they train them early in their careers. So we agree on that. and i agree there has to be good financial incentive and reward for the connections of those who do end up with a top young horse But when trainers and owners come to realisation their horses at best could well get gut busting runs ,just to run a midfield place at best,they think, whats the point in that,their horses have greater earning potential in graded races or at other tracks and therefore are placed accordingly. Thats just what happens and makes perfect sense anyway. the only time you will get larger numbers in the age group feature races is when the abilities of the horses is more even.Or when you have runners with connections who are willing to sacrifice their lesser horses because they like to be there for the big occassions.99% of trainers don't want to sacrifice their better horses to run midfield in a big race.They don't have the numbers waiting in the wings to do that to them. then you get the very rare trainer,like say brad mowbray who is happy to go around with an inexperienced green horse, to earn an extra couple of thousand for running at the back. Hey good luck to brad mowbray,but very few  new zealand trainers do that.  hrnz realise that,which is why they have to pay out around $3000-$5000 to the horses that run last in some of those high stake age group races.And why they think its a great idea to pay out bonuses from next year to some horses who run last in any 2 year old race. You often talk about the need for high stakes to go to the top end,yet the races you talk about reward the horses who can't keep up and run in the last few with tens of thousands in these bigger races.  as to the change of season. Thats just a red herring in my opinion.A horse is born on the same date and has lived the same number of days ,whether they changed the official date of birth for all horses to the 1st of january or left it as the 1st of august.No one can argue thats not correct. Like i have always said,its just smoke and mirrors to say they are getting more 2 year olds to race now we have changed the d.o.b. to 31 december. They would have run anyway in  december, whether they were shown as a 2 or 3 year olds based on the official.d.o.b. It would have made just as much sense to just changed the wording on the race programming. i think theres always been a lack of logic for anyone to say a horse is more likely to race as a late 2 year old,than as as an early 3 year old,simply because  they went and changed the date.Using that logic,i could say lets put the d.o.b. back another 3 months to 1st april and that way we will get even more 2 year olds lining up. And then i could claim how clever that is. At the end of the day,it all comes back to the cost to the industry of runningraces with small filelds that generate next to no turnover. there has to be a balance found where the owners of the best young horses are rewarded enough by way of stakemoney,but very importantly that has to be balanced with the flow on impact on stakes for the races that generate the turnover that provide the money to pay all stakes. In other words if you over subsidize the product that is draining your finances and underfund the product that is replenishing your finances,then that will mean you have to cut back on the funding for all the industry,including the part of the industry generating the profit,which will lead to less partuicpation at that lower lever,which will lead to less money being generated,which will inevitably lead to less funding for the high end races. so in effect, maintained the level of stakes in the high end races,irrespective of whether they have only 4 runners, will lead to significant reduction in stakes for the very people you want to get it. a bit like shooting yourself in the foot. one of the ojnly positives for nz is the likes of victoria was silly enough to keep paying the big stakes to the top end horses,so they ran out of money,had to cut stakes significantly or they folded,and now that don't import as many nz horses,which is a plus for the nz industry as far as oless horses being exported. always a silver lining somewhere if you look hard enough.
    • Chief Stipe
      Unregistered Syndicator

      By Chief Stipe · Posted

      Where is the betting market? If the horse needs a wind operation who knew before the sale?  
    • Forbury
      Unregistered Syndicator

      By Forbury · Posted

      I wondered why this stooge the Canary Andrew Fitzgerald marketed smackdown without a vet examination report this unregistered Syndicator has stogged everyone again There is a betting market at 1.10 that smackdown needs a throat operation!what a investment of 1/1000 of 10% 😂🐤

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