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    • Perhaps they are turning it into a girls day promotion.  @Huey will be in.
    • Kaikoura’s two day meeting has extra significance in 2025. The South Bay course will host the two opening rounds of the World Driving Championship and Monday will see the 100th running of the Kaikoura Cup. It promises to be a spectacular two days of racing so we have prepared a special lift-out to provide you with vital information on and off track. To see the liftout click here      View the full article
    • i was just reading the latest article by m guerin g on the ATC. now ,i read the article and several questions came to mind,which you would have thought should have been answered in the article. for a start,who really will end up paying for the interest that is accumulating at apparently $450,000 per month. Its the ATC debt,but it seems it will be HRNZ(in reality all nz harness racing), that actually will end up paying the $450,000 per month. why,well mr steele from HRNZ has said hrnz are  committed to contributing and helping source the extra money needed for a new training centre,by redirecting funds that HRNZ could have used for other purposes. So if the ATC only had x amount to contribute and nothing has changed for them,then the shortfall due to the increasing interest debt,for funding the new training establishment,won't be coming from the ATC,because they have no more, it can only come from hrnz(mr steele) so its ATC only in name, In reality its hrnz who have to come up with each extra months $450,000 interest debt,not the ATC . m guerin seems to go along with the ATC's ,almost propoganda,that now the latest $70m franklin park sale has fallen through,they will go to the strategy of selling commercial property under the apartments they own. But hang on there fellas,whats new about that as when you wrote your article 3 months ago you said the atc was intending to do that anyway and that the funds from that had already beeen factored in at that point. so ,why mr guerin and the atc and HRNZ are you trying to infer that the commerciial building sales is something that is a new positive. these people that write these articles and run the ATC and run HRNZ really do think everyone is stupid. And another question. If the ATC has to go through a long process to have the land use of alexandra park redefined before it can be sold,well,duh,why haven't they already started the process. I mean,on the face of it,it seems these people have totally relied on the sale of a property that has never eventuated ,and not even started the process of giving them a possible plan b. Like wouldn't that have been the obvious thing to do as ,like it could save them millions and millions down the track by keeping the option of selling alexandra park.How did hrnz not understand that either. I mean,these are the people in charge. Then theres other questions. if the ATC sells its revenue generating assets like the commercial buildings,then why do they not explain ,where are they going to make up the shortfall in income in the future. So,my take on the m guein article and the box seat segment on the ATC,is why don't they have the brains to ask the obvious questions.Well i think they do have the brains,but just think they think their viewers don't. personally i think m guerin deserves little credilbity at all when talking about the atc. I remember him,year after year,often around the yearling sales time,waffling on about how there was never a better time to get involved because the atc was doing so well,even at times when it was obvious they were in big trouble. I remember starting topics on this forum pointing out ,does anyone believe what m guerin says about the ATC.You know some people have what they call memories. i saw m guerin,a few months back expressed his supposed anger over what had happened with the atc. I mean,there he was saying the complete opposite of what he had been saying publically for years.We can only judge him on what he says,and thats why i say,why should he be shown  much credibilty when he talks about the atc. anyways,the atc is stuffed,we all know that,hrnz is doing their best to hitch their boat to the sinking ship,we all can see that.The reporting and the comments from those at the ATC are fudging the true story,everyone can see through it. Whats new. Nothing actually.Other than another chapter where  people on social media get to point out the holes in the latest atc story.
    • I understand that the November 8 meeting at Te Rapa is now at Pukekohe!!!
    • It does seem a bit odd alright. You'd think they'd have moved the Breeders to Cup day when they moved the 1000 Guineas to the first day.
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