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    • You are correct Peter in regards to horse trainers etc. being on HRNZ, Robert Dunn I believe was on the ATC commitee. Harness racing has significantly declined from where it once was when it was affirdable to have a horse trained without breaking the Bank! Harness racing was in the crap before Entain came along with their cash for 50% of the profits for 25 years we are aware of that. I maintain that the money given to HRNZ so far has been mismanaged and when the guaranteed money is stopped by Entain it will be shown as such. No offence Gamma, but the money being used by HRNZ now to heavily subsidise racing is not going to be beneficial to racing in another 2 years. To say that the racing is great now and good for racing folk now due to Entain is very narrow sighted, as anyone with a semblance of business can see the writing on the wall! Anyway always good to debate things but unfortunately we are not hearing anything from the ones who are making the financial decisions? What I would guarantee is that they wont be in their current positions when the shite hits the fan and I am surprised that Winston has not appointed someone to try and sort it out? Anyway you are a great supporter of the current regime and what they are doing and that is your perogative. Brodie would rather express his opinion and I know it is supported by most, but just dont want to speak up and get offside with some! 
    • Gama, I suspect we are talking at cross purposes. There are the odd horse trainers who have served at HRNZ and the ATC, however I am talking about their skills as trainers, not administrators. How many winners have Brad Steele or Matt Peden trained? There are now no license holders on the HRNZ Board.
    • That finish of Tentyris is reminiscent of Chautauqua so yes, he can win
    • Brodie gets stuck into them all the time .  You don't see well at all  Peter. 😆😉 . Maybe try reading a Few Threads on BOAY .    Who do you think ATC and HRNZ are? Brodie quite happy to call them Basket cases on about , oh lets see?  hundreds of occasions . It's a bit of a running joke actually.  Who do you think works at ATC and HRNZ  ? plenty of horse people. People who love the sport.  Brodie critical to the max old mate. Completely insults them at their jobs constantly . Are you living under a rock and didn't notice?  Alas he Doesn't like Entain helping out either,   nor about 50 other things and organisations. I don't have to suggest anything . It's in plain view across several threads. People (including Chief) don't even bother replying to the trots thread anymore with all that crap on it . I wonder why ?? lol🙄😋  What happens when TOUR PARTY is in $100,000 young guns 6 horse field race shortly as $1.10 favourite. ?  should Can the race  ? . Waste of money?  .It's at the ATC for strters. money could be better used elsewhere? No one can bet on it lol . (should be used for thoroughbreds would be better than you unappreciative lot anyway.)     BUT  don't Run one of the greatest Trot races ever seen with OscarB , Muscle Mountain, Keayang Zahara , Gus and 3 others , possibly the current Interdominion Champ Arcee Phoenix as well. THATS JUST a DISGRACE   PETER.   well done Peter well done. recklessness . lol.       
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