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Certainly not a Soft 5. Or are tracks not calibrated nationally but locally!

Eh? Now they are using a moisture meter as well. But a moisture content of 23% would on most tracks be a Good 3. What do you think @curious ?

Meeting News ATR @ Ellerslie | Saturday 21 September Nomination Morning Weather: Showery Track: Soft 5 Moisture Meter: 23.1% Rail: True Rainfall: 9mm Rain Last 24hrs Irrigation: Nil Weather and Track updated at 8.40am Tuesday 17 September

How do they work that out when they don't use a penetrometer? Perhaps they could have borrowed a "Going Stick" from their OZZIE consulants? One of @Thomass 's chestnuts.

Might be easier and cheaper for a trainer to get to Melbourne than Trentham not so for a horse. Time wise a different story. Often quicker to fly a horse to Melbourne than to float it to Ellerslie.

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You are speculating. Even if what you infer was true then surely that is the type of people they should be seeking the views of. That is those that have bet in the past and no longer bet as much. Perhaps they might learn something as opposed to asking the pathological punter such as yourself.

As I posted previously the even description could cover any number of possibilities from very minor to major. Isn't that standard practice now? Make your mind up - on the one hand you argue that GRNZ Vets aren't doing enough for dog welfare and now you are criticising them when they do something for dog welfare. The inference you made in starting this Topic is that something underhand was happening. There is no evidence to hand to show that so in that regard in my words there IS NOTHING HAPPENING HERE. If you have evidence other than your weird conspiracies and speculations then post it. That is put up or shut up. They are not "VERY rare anomalies" - that's entirely your spin. The blood tests returned clear results. NOTHING TO SEE THERE!!!

Who exactly in the Waikato? I'd argue that it isn't suiting the Waikato Trainers at all. Especially those that try to look after their horses. So who does it favour? And why?

No Alan it would appear only unsuccessful punters. So @Brodie won't be invited.

The Givealittle page is now closed. Good luck Lauren.

No but you were motivated to post something irrelevant.

MEETING NEWS Taranaki Race Time Changes Due to an issue with starting gates transportation the race times today at New Plymouth have changed, going back 1 race. The race times are now: Race 1 - 1.09pm Race 2 - 1.43pm Race 3 - 2.17pm Race 4 - 2.51pm Race 5 - 3.29pm Race 6 - 4.04pm Race 7 - 4.42pm Race 8 - 5.19pm

Or you could try this today. TAB REMINDER: Place your next Fixed Win Single bet on ANY RACE at Rosehill today & we'll match it up to $50 in Bonus Cash to use however you like! R18+ Bet Responsibly.

You can always play the BB Cash if your win bet finishes 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Then there is the Bet Surge offers on selected win bets.

The industry Flash Harry's are no doubt grateful that you have contributed to their salaries over the years. Assuming of course that your lifetime account has run at a loss to you. The horse owners are also grateful that you have contributed to the meagre stake returns. Assuming your lifetime account has run at a net loss to you. However what I don't get is why you expect "free" credit bets when your account is low or at zero.

Or class horses to run on a decent track.

PRESS RELEASE: BLACK TYPE CHANGES AT TRENTHAM “The release of the New Zealand Pattern Committee’s 2024 report is a reminder of the need to ensure the best horses can attend our best races” says RACE’s CEO Tim Savell as a suite of programming changes are announced for the upcoming summer. RACE General Manager of Racing Brad Taylor is under no illusions about the response to the constructive feedback received from the Pattern Committee. “The downgrade of the Levin Classic to Group 2 status is disappointing but fair. We need to make immediate changes to the program to give our other at-risk Group One’s the best chance to maintain their status at the pinnacle of New Zealand racing”. These changes will see revised programmes for the December and January meetings at RACE Trentham, which has the overall effect of providing an increased number of blue ribbon racedays for members, owners and fans to attend. Saturday December 7 sees the first Group One of the season raced at Trentham, the $400,000 TAB Classic over 1600m. Pleasingly, the warning on this race has been removed but the same cannot be said for the 2YO 1100m Wakefield Challenge Stakes. The Pattern Committee have recommended this race move back two weeks, to attract a better field of two year olds. It will now run on December 21, the LawnMaster Christmas at the Races meeting. The Group 3 LawnMaster Eulogy Stakes was originally set down for Sunday December 15, but it was felt a Saturday was a more appropriate date for a black type race, and it has also transferred to Saturday December 21. The Group 2 Manawatu Challenge Stakes and Group 3 Humphries Construction Manawatu Cup were already scheduled for this date, which will now host a hefty load of four group races on the day - a great lead in to Christmas. Saturday 4 January is the start of the NZCIS Wellington Cup Carnival and was set to host the Listed Marton Cup and the transferred Group 3 Anniversary Handicap. However this raceday has now had a serious upgrade with the moving forward of the TAB Telegraph by one week to run on January 4. On a warning and in severe risk of a downgrade, it has been agreed to move the Worlds’ fastest 1200m Group One so that eligible sprinters can compete at both the Telegraph and Ellerslie’s Railway, with the optimal three week break in between starts. "This moves gives our Group 1 sprinters a three week gap rather than two weeks between New Zealand's two Group 1 1200 metre events. We have to thank NZTR, Entain and the Pattern Committee for agreeing to the move and also Auckland Thoroughbred Racing for moving forward the Group 3 Concorde Handicap to early December to give the Northern horses the ideal lead up to the Group 1 Telegraph." Saturday 11 January will now be known as Harcourts Thorndon Mile Day and is part of The Grand Tour Racing Festival. The Thorndon Mile is now also on a warning, but it is hoped the $100,000 stakes increase and move forward by one week will assist Wellington’s premier mile race. The Group 2 Levin Classic will still run this day on a reduced stake of $400,000, as will the $150,000 G3 Trentham Stakes and Listed $100k Wellesley Stakes. The carnival reaches its peak on Saturday 18 January with the 152nd edition of the NZ Campus of Innovation and Sport Wellington Cup, running at an increased stake of $400,000 this year. Aussie sensations Peking Duk will return to highlight the off-track action, with the Group 3 Desert Gold Stakes and $350,000 Remutaka Classic also on the card. Looking forward a little further, the Al Basti Equiworld Dubai New Zealand Oaks on March 22 is the main benefactor of the downgrade of the Levin Classic, with the stakes being transferred to being the race up to a whopping $1 million in prizemoney. “This iconic race is also now on a warning” explains Brad Taylor, “We hope that a million dollars in stakes is an attractive proposition to ensure next season the best three-year-old staying fillies are at Trentham in March. This is an important Group 1 on our calendar for several reasons so seeing the best fillies here is key to it retaining its Group 1 status”. Set to run on March 29, Brad also notes that “the Courtesy Ford Manawatu Sires Produce Stakes has had its warning removed, which is great news as the 2YO Group One returns to it’s home at RACE Awapuni next season”. A lift in prizemoney to $550,000 is also on the cards for what will be the first black type meeting in the Manawatu in over 18 months. RACE Upcoming Meetings

No not upsetting. Just running a public forum I have to balance free speech vs legal obligations.

Great to see ENTAIN donate $5,000.

Who knows but at the end of the day if there is an employment issue then there are processes to follow and mostly they are not played out in a public forum.

Hidden. BTW how much have you contributed?

Regardless of whether it is fake news or not. From my experience there is normally a process to rigidly follow in these cases if indeed there is a case. I have yet to see a process that involves telling a random third party. What do you mean by that?

How does this piece of fake news relate to the screen shot you posted? Have you finally completely lost the plot?

Punters' win in new RV fields policy www.racing.com Racing Victoria says it expects punters both on-course and online to benefit from its overhauled race fields policy, which was revealed to bookies this week. In a significant shift from the current policy, RV confirmed a raft of changes which should leave punters better off. RV hopes the changes will see punters benefit from better prices on Victorian races, both on-course and on the exchange. It is also hoped that it will lead to more generous investment from WSPs on Victorian racing, especially on metro race days. RV also said it expected the total race field income generated to remain broadly the same year-on-year on a net basis. As part of the changes, RV confirmed: • There will be a simplified race fields model, which will replace the 'greater of' monthly calculation on turnover and revenue; • The removal of all race field fees charged on free bet turnover; • Movement to a single race field fee rate for all meetings, plus applying an increase to pari-mutuel rates to remove the historic discount linked to VicTAB; • Rates for on-course bookmaker activity set at 0.5 per cent; • Replacement of the current threshold discount structure with new, more graduated structure; and • There will be increased support for sophisticated punters, which will include stopping WSPs restricting MBL access when operating more than one brand and requiring WSPs to demonstrate genuine risk when applying robotic betting MBL exclusion. CEO Aaron Morrison said the changes come following a comprehensive review. "The enhancements are being made in line with the commencement of our new funding model here in Victoria and the initial feedback has been positive across different sections of the market," Morrison said. "Wagering operators expressed a desire for a more predictable fee model, one which ultimately provides greater incentives for them to promote Victorian thoroughbred racing to their customers, particularly on feature race days. "This new model provides greater certainty for wagering operators and a stronger incentive to provide punters with value and with it we expect punters to benefit from an uplift in WSP promotional activity on our racing." Morrison said punters were at the forefront of RV's mind when making the changes. "We've also sought to unlock enhanced value for sophisticated punters through a specific fee discount for Betfair on activity sourced from high volume customers," he said. "The new model also provides further support for on-course bookmakers because they're an important part of our rich heritage and add to the race-day experience. "Through fee reductions, they are encouraged to continue offering a highly competitive market that rewards those punters who head trackside. "We want to see Victorian thoroughbred racing remain the primary product of choice for both wagering operators and punters and this revamped race fields model is designed to foster that, whilst maintaining critical funding to support returns to owners and participants."