Chief Stipe

So in a nutshell they are saying that the WBRR 3 yr old ratings for NZ are too low.

Well thanks for that but from time to time my eyesight and predictive text combine to post the wrong word even if spelt correctly!

Really? I didn't realise you speak for @Joe Bloggs but do you want me to list all the Tall Poppy slaying comments you both have made in one thread? Of course it isn't but part of that is because contrary to what you infer the big purchasers don't have a bottomless bank account so they need to trade off their budgets against the horses they want and balance their purchases against their market segmentation. Like any business. However it may not be an exact science but some have a higher strike rate than others and that's a fact. Really? Are you talking about @Joe Bloggs again? Or is it just a case of Pot Kettle Black?

Perhaps but at $76k over three seasons you haven't got a particularly good ROI either even when racing in a jurisdiction that has substantially greater stakes than NZ. I know first hand how difficult and challenging the sport is and certainly have my eyes wide open as should anyone who buys into a syndicate. I've been directly involved in racing for 50 yeaers. I've worked in a stable, help train horses and been closely involved with every horse I've owned. I tell you when you attend oncourse every one of 52 starts that your horse raced you get a very good understanding of the industry. I quickly learned that most trainers are stock traders and optimists. The biggest negative I've seen about racing is the negativity based on pure envy and jealousy. That results in a fragmented Trainer stakeholder group and Tall Poppy Slayer followers.

Like who? Not many down your neck of the woods. Congratulations on your three wins so far this season. Still you have a 1 in 5 chance of picking up a black type race. So what is their point of difference? Aside from buying yearlings and sending them to multiple trainers?

Really @Freda ? That's the best you've got?

Questioning in what way?

So @nomates I don't know? Can you and @Joe Bloggs give up on the Tall Poppy slaying? Even if @nomates you still have a horse with a tall poppy.

Yep

A prick doesn't do his homework. Also hardly "viscious" just have a good memory plus BOAY doesn't delete anything.

So your latest claim to fame is a filly by Roc De Cambes out of a passed in mare at that Inglis Easter sale that you rave about. Which has won 4 races out of 18 on off tracks for $76k in 3 years of racing. Now you don't actually own a share but what is your ROI?

Your figures are wrong.

Black Power and Mongrel Mob.

Hasn't been my experience.

Wasn't one of them with Te Akau?

So obviously you let him down.

Really? Aren't some black type races holding their place?

Bullshit. I have met Te Akau owners that haven't paid a bill for 3 years and have had a ball winning Grp races.

Or those that are so Hasn't been my experience.

What point? I can't see that you've made any.

David Ellis buys all his yearlings upfront THEN syndicates them. If he can't syndicate them he owns them outright. Now if owners cough up $20m every year to join a syndicate then they do so because they want to and with their eyes open. The Te Akau syndicate contracts are the clearest I've ever seen. The majority of Trainers don't even bother with contracts.

Plus the likes of @TAB For Ever !!

Well clearly Imperatriz after the last two races would be top sprinter. But can't see how Private Eye is even close looking at his record over the last 18 months by comparison.

So Private Eye's rating is based on what performances?

Is there more than one Private Eye racing in the World? If it is the OZ one how does he rank higher? Have I missed some races he has won since September last year and many many months before that?