Chief Stipe

Contrary to what the Gallops guys think it was never just them.

He must be a good Jockey then because he can ride a winner when @Newmarket would have gone home for the day. Then of course @Newmarket can be an online doctor assessing someone in a 30 second interview as to their health. BTW if you are looking for a note to not turn up for work next week @Newmarket is offering an online service. Just get Trackside to interview you and it's sorted.

Obviously he wasn't fit...Not! Well done the Kennedy Team.

Wrong. They have memory. Are you saying breaking-in is a waste of time? That is they know exactly what they need to do without education?

What is the point? You speculate he has a cold or worse after he has just ridden a race. At least he turned up for work and obviously is fit enough to do so. Are you precious?

@Gammalite do you beat your dog if it is doing the right thing?

Well has the horse been well educated or not?

LOL that was an omen! Warren just rode a winner for the wife!

I assure you it wasn't a rocking horse. In fact if you went to whip it it would give you a swift kick in the cart. That's the problem with Whips and with the Luk Chin drive question - the whip is often for show and gives the punter more confidence than getting more from the horse. As I say most good horses I've had anything to do with didn't need a prompt (aka @Gammalite) and gave everything they had to win. Stewards are just as dumb as the punters - hence the contradiction with the whip rules. If you are over vigorous you get pinged and if you are undervigorous you get pinged. No consideration that the horse may have been giving all it could. Do you beat a dog if is doing the right thing? Why beat a horse if it is doing all it can to win? Turns them sour eventually. A lot of it comes back to how they are broken in and their early training. The old school Australian trainer was always a bit ignorant in that respect.

Reminds me of an exercise I had to do during my MBA studies. It was the analysis of annual accounts using a predictor formula based on key metrics in the reports. Two of those metrics were the value of intangible assets and the other was employee shareholding. If both were really high they were usually a sign that the company was essentially vapour waiting for the heat of a strong sun! For exmaple if they have valued the license as an intangible license then the company has next to zero resell value. Thinking about it a bit more though isn't the license ownership a bit murky? Does TABNZ own it and just outsources the operations?

@NZRacing the billion pounds quoted as assets are largely Intangible Assets. Intangible assets being things like brands, trademarks, copyright and even software. The latter I would imagine wouldn't be much as they are leveraging off their Group software. Perhaps one of the intangible assets is the monopoly license they have to trade in NZ given to them courtesy of the NZ Government. That must be worth a fair amount. It is intangible as it is only a license, not a physical asset and can't be traded.

Maybe that's one way Entain is paying for Stakes.

Do you think the Premiership might be having an influence? I think his wife told him he could only have one go at it!

Have you ever hit a horse that had given all it had? What message does that send a horse?

It isn't abnormal nor uncommon. Some dogs are more prone than others. How do you know they are ignoring it? Unlikely as it would show in swabs. It isn't happening every time it races either be it Group 1's or otherwise. Given it's performance to date if it was sick I'd love to see it race when it is healthy! Exactly you don't know. You also don't know if officials are "turning a blind eye". In fact you yourself stated that the officials inspected the track on one occasion. You are looking for bones under the bed to gnaw on that aren't there!!! If you are going to impugn all and sundry then at least get your evidence sorted instead of the normal mish mash of inference, suppostion and innuendo! Not to mention adhering to the same standards that you expect everyone else to especially consistency in your analysis!

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You're struggling Chazza. Why don't you go for a walk? Take your GAP dog with you.

Right so you have formed your hypothesis and now selectively look for evidence to support it but conveniently overlook evidence that conflicts with your hypothesis. The first race you mentioned in this ludicrous Topic was the Hatrick Classic Grp 1 Final on 12 April 2024. Post race urine AND hair samples were taken.

@Yankiwi you come across as an obsessed nutter who has a vendetta against any number of people. Your claims are unsubstantiated rubbish as are your so called statistics.

BTW he didn't seem to drool in his first Group 1 either. The St Leger. You seem to only have a 50% accuracy which is in keeping with all your statistics. I guess you will come back with "well this video is edited and he must have swallowed during the running"... I'm guessing the rest of the household is sick of you hogging the recording capacity on the Skybox and the endless Greyhound Racing recordings don't go back far enough.

At the end of the day no matter what you infer He's All Go is a champion dog. Starts Win 2nd 3rd Win % Place % Stakes Total 22 19 1 1 86.4% 9.1% $117,339.00 Who wins from any box - although I'm surprised you haven't started a consipiracy on why he has never drawn box 6. Even though that is statistically possible. Box History BOX Starts 2 1 5 5 1 0 5 3 Wins 1 1 5 4 1 0 4 3 Places 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

But you are inaccurate. The Derby is a Grp 1. No signs of drooling. You said it only happens in Group 1's. Have you gone through every race the dog has had? Well unlike you who sits in his armchair with multple devices in hand everyday it seems looking for anything to bag GRNZ or any stakeholder you don't like the dog was entitled to pant after having put in a high performance exertion on the racetrack. Although we all envisage you sitting in your chair drooling as you frantically rewind 100's of mintues of racing footage. The dog could have been dehydrated. Who knows. But to infer something untoward without any conclusive evidence is crossing the line. No positives from any of the races.

But the NZ Derby is a Grp 1. He didn't drool then. You really are scraping the bottom of the jellimeat tin now.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy story. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/appeal-reserved-decision-dated-9-july-2021-angela-turnwald/ That said the dog won $26k in the following race and wasn't dribbling.

I don't see any problem - not that I could see how you could see through the fence. But it looks a lot safer than the dogs all jamming up at the lure on the circular tracks! Anything else to criticise? BTW - looks like the natural injury rate is over 4%.