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But each of the three individuals are not bred to be sprinters regardless of any remote sprinting evidence that you may elude to. Two of the horses in the article have won at 1500m or more. One has won an Australian Guineas! Nature Strip an out and out sprinter never won past 1200m.

It is probably why Peter Moody has said that Imperatriz is currently the best sprinter in Australia.

The best middle distance horses usually have an exceptional turn of foot.

You are the one who said the article was horse shit but haven't come up with anything to counter it. Einsteins father wasn't a genius either.

But as the original article I posted said the first three place getters in The Everest are bred to be milers at least. Your logic is circular - you mentioned sires that were sprinters in their own right but sired middle distance horses and were successful broodmare sires.

Oh Dear......Savabeel won a Cox Plate and the Champion Stakes over 2000m. Success Express won a 1600m race as two year old in race record time. He also sired a NZ Oaks Winner......

But each of those sires left middle distance horses through their daughters.

Flying Spur has a middle distance pedigree hence winning the Australian Guineas. His best progeny won at 1600m or more. He even sired a Caufield Cup winner.

None of the three in the article have dominant sprinting pedigrees. Think About It DP = 2-1-6-5-0 (14) DI = 0.75 CD = 0.00 I Wish I Win DP = 0-1-3-0-0 (4) DI = 1.67 CD = 0.25 Private Eye DP = 4-8-16-2-0 (30) DI = 2.00 CD = 0.47

Your analysis for Think About It?

How else do you do it? Make the pie bigger by printing more money and then tax more? That didn't work did it!

One sire? You overlook the middle distance stayer sires that dominate the pedigree. Savabeel?! Pins - Australian Guineas winner over 2000m. @holy ravioli we've found something else you are not good at horse pedigrees.

Everest Turns Milers into Sprinters Tara Madgwick - Tuesday October 17 First run in 2017, the $20million The Everest has evolved into the race most trainers and owners want to win and as a result the quality and profile of the horses now aimed at this race is entirely different to how it started as pedigree shows the first three home this year are in fact milers, so where does that leave the one dimensional sprinters? Joe Pride is on record as saying how keen he is to try Think About It over longer trips and after the son of So You Think won the Stradbroke at 1400m he would have been aiming up at an entirely different preparation this spring had it not been for The Everest. Advertisement Runner-up I Wish I Win is a typical son of Savabeel to look at and won the Group I ATC Golden Eagle at 1500m last spring. He probably would have given Fangirl a run for her money in the Group I ATC King Charles Stakes (1600m), but that race was worth $5million as opposed to The Everest at $20million and he got $2.9million for his second placing while Fangirl got $3million for her win. Third placed Private Eye was also second last year and the son of Al Maher first rose to fame winning the Group II Queensland Guineas and Group I ATC Epsom Handicap at 1600m, before he reverted to sprinting to take advantage of the big purses on offer and has now got $8.8million in the bank for his connections. For trainers that can turn a miler into a sprinter, the positives are obvious with huge prizemoney on offer and a wealth of speedy squibs to set the pace allowing for the strong finisher to come over the top. A rocket ship sprinter like a Nature Strip at his top would leave the newly created miler sprinters in the dust, but there are precious few of them. Another thought to ponder, once upon a time in a world with no Everest all three of these Everest placed horses this year probably would have been on a Cox Plate trail as that was the race to win for the best horse in the country. Even if you weren’t a true 2000m horse, you’d work down the elite WFA path and have a crack because you wanted that chance at being the best of the best, sadly for the Cox Plate it’s going to be lessened with the passing of time by the absence of these quality milers being re-routed to sprinting.

Strong Political Support For Thoroughbred Industry Media Release - Tuesday October 17 Federal politicians have pledged bipartisan support for the thoroughbred industry, emphasising its importance to the economy and the integral part it plays in the social fabric of rural, regional and metropolitan Australia. More than 40 MPs and Senators from across the political divide gathered with industry leaders at Parliament House in Canberra on Monday evening for an event hosted by Thoroughbred Breeders Australia (TBA) and the Parliamentary Friends of Primary Producers, which was staged for the first time since the pandemic. Co-convenors of the Parliamentary Friends of Primary Producers, Nola Marino MP (left) and Meryl Swanson MP (right), pictured with champion trainer Peter Moody (centre). Agriculture Minister Murray Watt reaffirmed the government’s support of the thoroughbred industry and its assistance with issues such as biosecurity, horse traceability and equine welfare initiatives. “It is a really important opportunity for us all to celebrate this important industry and I guess I just want to convey to you the support from the Albanese government for your industry,” Mr Watt said. Advertisement “There’s a lot of collaboration going on between our government here and the industry and I look forward to continuing to do that in the future.” Nationals Leader David Littleproud backed up Mr Watt’s bipartisan approach to the thoroughbred industry. “To each and every one of you, please don’t underestimate the role and the significance that you play in regional and rural Australia, and that you play for this nation,” Mr Littleproud said. “The thoroughbred industry is so important from the city to the bush. It plays not just a financial one and an economic one in jobs, but it’s our outlet, an outlet for so many Australians to come together.” The cross-party event was run by co-convenors, Western Australian Liberal MP Nola Marino and NSW Labor MP Meryl Swanson, and held in the private courtyard of Speaker Milton Dick. TBA chief executive Tom Reilly conducted a range of one-on-one meetings with officials and politicians prior to the cross-party event discussing issues such as the government’s impending wagering reforms. “Events like this are so important for the thoroughbred industry. In breeding and racing we have lots of touch points with the federal government and these can throw up some complex issues to deal with,” Reilly said. “To have the people who make decisions on policy in the room and listening and engaging with people from breeding and racing is a great opportunity. I was delighted with the turn-out of over 40 politicians including senior members of the government and opposition.” Ms Marino, a long-time thoroughbred breeder, said that it was imperative that the industry remains a thriving one. “I know this industry employs thousands, but it is critical to underpinning many rural and regional economies as well and the employment opportunities that go with that,” Ms Marino said. Ms Swanson urged thoroughbred leaders to continue to advocate for the industry. “Keep doing what you’re doing, keep representing the industry as brilliantly as you do and onward and upward for thoroughbred breeding and racing in Australia,” she said. The thoroughbred industry creates more than 80,000 jobs while the breeding sector alone is responsible for 11,500 employees, nearly all of which are in regional Australia. Australia also has more than 100,000 racehorse owners, more than Europe and America combined, underlining the public’s engagement with the sport. Thoroughbred Breeders Australia CEO Tom Reilly and Minister for the NDIS and Government Services Bill Shorten. Minister for Trade and Tourism Don Farrell, who was a key figure in helping negotiate the reintroduction of thoroughbred exports to China, also attended the evening as did his cabinet colleague Bill Shorten, whose electorate of Maribyrnong is where Melbourne racecourses Moonee Valley and Flemington are located. Member for Riverina Michael McCormack, the former Deputy Prime Minister and passionate racing person, also attended as did former National Party leader Barnaby Joyce, liaising with industry figures including champion trainer Peter Moody, auction house representatives from Magic Millions and Inglis as well as a range of breeders from across the country. Widden Stud principal Antony Thompson, who has thoroughbred breeding farms in the Hunter Valley in NSW and near Romsey in Victoria, said: “It’s so important that the thoroughbred industry is getting its voice heard in Canberra and I’m grateful that TBA has taken the lead in this space. “There was a lot of support for breeding and racing among those that attended and it’s crucial we now work with those politicians to deal with the challenges the industry faces.”

Rotorua is targeted to go.

Another agenda.

A message from NZTR COO, Darin Balcombe. No images? Click here Following the partial abandonment of Rotorua Racing’s meeting on Sunday 15 October due to a slip in Race 4, the crossing and area just past the crossing were inspected by Regional Track Advisor Graeme Styles, Racing Integrity Board Stewards and Club representatives. It was identified that the crossing had become particularly hard and this, combined with tightness in the area after the crossing, created the issue that caused the slip. This area of the track is under constant close management by the Club due to thermal activity. Remedial work has been carried out including vertidraining and removal of the top 50ml of the crossing, while sand will be applied to reduce the hardness of this crossing area. Following consultation with the RIB, Racing Rotorua and the New Zealand Jockeys’ Association, it was agreed that this remedial work would mitigate the issue. Racing Rotorua will organise gallops over the affected area post-completion of the work on Tuesday 24 October, with anticipation of the Thursday 26 October race day proceeding. Yours in racing, Darin Balcombe Chief Operating Officer Darin.Balcombe@nztr.co.nz

You don't read Barry Lichter?

Probably bought all five.

Just thinking......were there any photo finishes further down the field? Does the official result include a look at the rolling photo?

Why would I bother just to entertain your warped view of the world? No return in it for me. You obviously only choose to read what you want to read. As I said one method of selecting the Pick 12 in Order for The Everest was to use the available fixed odds just prior to the race. You would have got 10 out of 12. That's what I did but I thought Overpass would do better than he did.

Have they? Was that in the terms and conditions? That's an oversight on Entain's part. I would have thought if $10m was put on the line as a marketing promotion that you had in the T's & C's the right to at the very least take a photo of the winner! Quite frankly I haven't been impressed by Entain to date - I just can't work out where they are going to make more revenue from to match their promises. One area is possibly in dumping the wagering software and the broadcasting contracts. They could save at least $10m a year on the software for a start by leveraging off their other agencies contracts e.g. Ladbrokes.

No they were the Fixed Odds on offer about two hours BEFORE the event. Hell you even told us Think About It was a shoe in!!!!! So that left you with 11 to find. Alcohol Free the $10m mare who hasn't done that much against top-class (I didn't think the Everest was that good a field) horses and was a last minute call up was odds on to finish last. I bet you would. Perhaps they wrote the winner a cheque? Every TAB account holder I know put in a free entry. Why wouldn't you? Are you telling us you didn't or that you don't have a TABNZ account? Geez there was even an easy bet option if you couldn't be bothered working it out! So you have two conspiracies going now - one they didn't have insurance and two the winner doesn't exist.

Conspiracist. @curious what would you have calculated the odds of picking the 12 in order? Given the two favoured horses were streets ahead of the rest. I wonder if any syndicates were formed that put their free entries together.

What would it have cost them? $1m? I doubt they'll get it again for a similar promotion on a 12 horse selected field.