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I guess the usual suspects will be singing from the heights about how great it is. The likes of @JJ Flash for example. Where are the fantastic gains in revenue that were lauded by these people? We await the financials for July and the preliminary annual result. Yes nice to see an increase in stakes in Auckland but it only adds to the industry problems. Will gallops eventually go the same way as harness in Auckland? I suspect a lot has been punted on grabbing Avondales assets.

The point I was making is that they haven't maintained their core business and now find themselves competing ineffectively in the hospitality industry.

Since the CJC has screwed every other club in the near vicinity and ruined their Rangiora asset they have no alternative turf venues to race on while the Riccarton track is renovated. Which is needed now and on a regular basis in the future. I guess the ARC has had some foresight in that regard.

The CJC has had ample industry supplied capital which they have pissed away. Why didn't they look after their turf track? After all isn't that what their core business gallops on?

What's more the Stakes in OZ are generated largely by racing activity not "diversified investments"! In my opinion it isn't sustainable if it isn't based on the core business. I've seen the "good times are coming" rolled out so many times in the past that I wait with bated breath for the TAB-NZ July year end financial result.

No it wouldn't. She was always the top rated horse in that field. Was just a question of how much she would win by.

So you would have priced her lower in your pre-race assessment if you'd had that information? I.e. her actual race odds were at overs.

Well when an illiterate recidivist anti-TA poster calls Ellis a liar and worse I'd expect a phone call as well. Further that particular poster has made defamatory and false statements about David Ellis and others.

Does anyone talk to anyone anymore?

What size does it fit?

Really attractive punting meeting on the Riccarton AWT today. NOT!

So what does that take the 29 down to?

Well you'd reduce the odds by picking the ones with Opie on.

So @The Centaur you would have done quite well today backing TA? 6 wins.

You assume the trainer didn't contribute. Either way what difference would it make to your betting strategy? Wouldn't an accurate track condition report be more important?

Just for you @The Centaur

Have you considered passing on your suggestions to TA and other trainers? https://teakauracing.com/contact-us/

Why is it in TA's interest to provide more than they do? What information would YOU as an average punter want that would influence your bets?

Why? What is in it for TA? From my experience most Trainers are about as accurate as most Tipsters when tipping horses. Especially a long way out from a race. Your original post lists the times and distances of track work and says there should be more information. Hell it is more information than the majority of Trainers.

Their first priority is to their owners. Even the harshest BOAY Te Akau critic would agree that TA do a great job at keeping their owners informed. This activity has been neglected by the TAB and NZTR for close to two decades. The TAB in cahoots with NZTR squashed or pushed out of business any private attempt to provide punters with detailed information. The Informant being a case in point - they had to source their NZ form details from Australia while the TAB/NZTR passed the data onto their own publications for free! Not that the data was complete or enough to make a difference for the punter. The TAB have since the restructure divested this part of their function and we await with bated breath to see what NZTR will do to fill the gaps.

@Special Agent I imagine voted AGAINST. At last some grass roots action.

So @The Centaur you expect Te Akau to provide more information than any other trainer, NZTR and TAB NZ? Who pays? The owner? Perhaps TA could package this information and the average punter could subscribe to the service? Geez I wonder if Te Akau are carbon neutral 🤔

Where does TAB NZ offer that information? Normally bullshit form comments if anything up to date at all.

LOL yeah! But NOT from TAB NZ!

Which other NZ Trainer provides this information? For that matter which OZ Trainer does this? The Hong Kong Jockey Club collects this information but I'm not sure what other jurisdictions do.