Chief Stipe

The point I was making is that they haven't maintained their core business and now find themselves competing ineffectively in the hospitality industry.

Since the CJC has screwed every other club in the near vicinity and ruined their Rangiora asset they have no alternative turf venues to race on while the Riccarton track is renovated. Which is needed now and on a regular basis in the future. I guess the ARC has had some foresight in that regard.

The CJC has had ample industry supplied capital which they have pissed away. Why didn't they look after their turf track? After all isn't that what their core business gallops on?

What's more the Stakes in OZ are generated largely by racing activity not "diversified investments"! In my opinion it isn't sustainable if it isn't based on the core business. I've seen the "good times are coming" rolled out so many times in the past that I wait with bated breath for the TAB-NZ July year end financial result.

No it wouldn't. She was always the top rated horse in that field. Was just a question of how much she would win by.

So you would have priced her lower in your pre-race assessment if you'd had that information? I.e. her actual race odds were at overs.

Well when an illiterate recidivist anti-TA poster calls Ellis a liar and worse I'd expect a phone call as well. Further that particular poster has made defamatory and false statements about David Ellis and others.

Does anyone talk to anyone anymore?

What size does it fit?

Really attractive punting meeting on the Riccarton AWT today. NOT!

So what does that take the 29 down to?

Well you'd reduce the odds by picking the ones with Opie on.

So @The Centaur you would have done quite well today backing TA? 6 wins.

You assume the trainer didn't contribute. Either way what difference would it make to your betting strategy? Wouldn't an accurate track condition report be more important?

Just for you @The Centaur

Have you considered passing on your suggestions to TA and other trainers? https://teakauracing.com/contact-us/

Why is it in TA's interest to provide more than they do? What information would YOU as an average punter want that would influence your bets?

Why? What is in it for TA? From my experience most Trainers are about as accurate as most Tipsters when tipping horses. Especially a long way out from a race. Your original post lists the times and distances of track work and says there should be more information. Hell it is more information than the majority of Trainers.

Their first priority is to their owners. Even the harshest BOAY Te Akau critic would agree that TA do a great job at keeping their owners informed. This activity has been neglected by the TAB and NZTR for close to two decades. The TAB in cahoots with NZTR squashed or pushed out of business any private attempt to provide punters with detailed information. The Informant being a case in point - they had to source their NZ form details from Australia while the TAB/NZTR passed the data onto their own publications for free! Not that the data was complete or enough to make a difference for the punter. The TAB have since the restructure divested this part of their function and we await with bated breath to see what NZTR will do to fill the gaps.

@Special Agent I imagine voted AGAINST. At last some grass roots action.

So @The Centaur you expect Te Akau to provide more information than any other trainer, NZTR and TAB NZ? Who pays? The owner? Perhaps TA could package this information and the average punter could subscribe to the service? Geez I wonder if Te Akau are carbon neutral 🤔

Where does TAB NZ offer that information? Normally bullshit form comments if anything up to date at all.

LOL yeah! But NOT from TAB NZ!

Which other NZ Trainer provides this information? For that matter which OZ Trainer does this? The Hong Kong Jockey Club collects this information but I'm not sure what other jurisdictions do.

Would the average enthusiast be looking at Te Akau's website? That said you will find that Te Akau will do a Raceday preview of their runners such as they did prior to the last Ruakaka meeting. More than most trainers do! Here is the Ruakaka preview - for what it was worth! Te Akau Ruakaka Saturday Preview 19 AUG 2022 Te Akau Racing has six horses entered on Saturday 20 August at Ruakaka. Weather: cloudy, track: Soft6, rail: out 3 metres. 2mls rain forecast Friday, 6mls Saturday. 2:17 p.m. R4 1 Lord Cosmos (3 g Pierro – Cosmic Powers) – Opie Bosson; resumed here three weeks ago running the fastest last 600m (33.7) for fourth in the 3YO 1100 metres, and steps up in the $85,000 Cambridge Stud Northland Breeders’ Stakes (Gr. 3, 1200m). He ended his previous campaign in May, quickening home for big win in the Waikato Equine Veterinary Centre 2YO Stakes (Listed, 1200m) at Te Rapa, running the fastest last 600m (34.4) on the day. Drawn barrier two, he rates a top three chance. Fixed odds: $3.20 & $1.30. 3:23 p.m. R6 1 Fierce Flight (4 g Flying Artie – First Bloom) – Opie Bosson; ran the fastest last 600m (34.8) on a day when dead-heating for first in the Maiden 1600 metres on 20 February at Hastings, and stepped up finishing fourth in the Rating 65 1600 metres on 16 March at Matamata. Spelled, he has trialled twice in preparation to resume in the $30,000 Rating 65 1300 metres. From barrier five, he rates a top four prospect if appreciative of the course at his first attempt – one of two in the event for the stable. Fixed odds: $8.00 & $2.80. 3:23 p.m. R6 4 Rip Van Gogh (5 g Rip Van Winkle – On the Move) – Joe Kamaruddin (a1); recorded his Maiden win over 1300 metres and finished second up in grade over 1200 metres before ending his campaign in March. Spelled, he has also trialled twice in preparation to resume in the $30,000 Rating 65 1300 metres. From barrier two, he has first four claims if he likewise is appreciative of the course at his first attempt. Fixed odds: $12.00 & $3.80. 3:58 p.m. R7 1 Prise De Fer (7 g Savabeel – Foiled) – Tayla Mitchell (a4); was in good form ending his previous campaign winning two of his last three starts, most recently the Canterbury Gold Cup (Gr. 3, 2000m) on 23 April at Riccarton. He circled widest and sustained a big finish for second in a trial on 4 August at Te Rapa, has weight relief to 58kg, and is capable of giving cheek fresh-up from barrier one in the $35,000 Open 1400 metres – a race featuring a Te Akau trio. Fixed odds: $7.00 & $2.30. 3:58 p.m. R7 2 Brando (5 g Savabeel – Saoirse) – Opie Bosson; was in good form ending his previous campaign and finished with a top run for second in the Easter Handicap (Gr. 3, 1600m) on 23 April at Pukekohe. He showed class with a soft trial win on 4 August at Te Rapa, and rates a top three proposition fresh-up from barrier three, despite carrying 60kgs, in the $35,000 Open 1400 metres. Fixed odds: $3.00 & $1.35. 3:58 p.m. R7 4 Markus Aurelius (6 g Ghibellines – Evancho) – Joe Kamaruddin (a1); won the Coupland’s Bakeries Mile (Gr. 2, 1600m) during Cup Week last November at Riccarton, and has had two preparatory trials since spelling in February. A winner of seven from 19, he has the ability to act fresh, has drawn barrier five and look for him rounding off solidly in the $35,000 Open 1400 metres. Fixed odds: $11.00 & $3.30.