Chief Stipe

I'll make it nicely simple for you. Ma and Pa Kettle Bakery Conglomerate have one core brand. Uncle MacGregors Wholegrain Breads and Buns. A successful business. One day Ma says to Pa "we are missing out on revenue from the younger generation. Little Dolly has an idea. Her friend @Newmarket while not the target market loves her Creamy Jammy Donuts. Why don't we create a new brand called Dolly's Donuts 😋 🍩 ?" So part way through the financial year Dolly's Donuts is launched. Now the Ma and Pa Conglomerate have to report to the financial markets as they are one of the few publicly listed companies in Ekatahuna. The main investors are the Kettle Clan and the Pots. Ma being a Pot before marrying a Kettle - but that isn't relevant. So to the financial reports. Internally they measure what Dolly's doing - they monitor her closely as she tends to spend a bit. They measure their other brands seperately too which has been going ever since 100 years ago Great Great Grandad Kettle found a flat piece of fertile land in the Hawkes Bay and started a flour mill. A subsidiary is the Flour Mill and Farm but doesn't make much money. They report their brands and products consolidated accounts to the markets. So in their latest report (they report twice yearly - the Pots are a nosey lot) they only have 6 months of Dolly's revenue but it is going so well that Dolly contributed 18% extra to the overall net revenue. Overall retail was down mainly due to a few managers running off with the till, a couple of ram raids, a shift in demographics in some regions and a tendency to buy more online. Overall the Ma and Pa Kettle Conglomerate Ltd had a year on year increase in net revenue. Dolly got a new car. The Mk2 Escort handed down from Great Uncle Randy had finally given up. Dolly was expecting a brand new Mercedes AMG 1 but instead got a nice Suzuki Swift in the company colours of Red and Black. It had to be explained to Dolly that although her Creamy Jammy Donuts had contributed so much to the Conglomerate revenue it was still only a part of the whole business. So Betcha is a new brand with different products targeting a different market to the TAB. ENTAIN reports on the consolidated accounts from both brands. Hence the valid year on year comparison. ENTAINS New Zealand business across all brands is up 12% net. To make it even more nicely simpler the previous year the ENTAIN accounts only had a number of products and one brand. The next year they had a new brand Betcha and more products. They only reported on the consolidated. It isn't necessary to report on each individual brand to the nosey Pots. Since they bought the whole business they would have obtained previous years accounts and customer data against which they can do comparative reporting.

I see NZ's Premier Anti-racing Forum is over it with negativity. @curious would like more stakes for his punter funded plodders.

Dynastic the only one of your list to not "go on" and the only one to get close to the Aussie bush. Not that Avoca is really the Aussie bush. Only 2 hours out of Melbourne. If they are the worst of them then they haven't done too badly. I note that 4 out of the 5 you chose were Te Akau trained. Are you in the same smoko room as @Huey Of the KM winners there are ones that didn't achieve as much. But you left them out.

Velocious Grp 1 winner and 2yr old of the year. Went in the wind. Sold for $2.6m.

Cool Aza Beel $700k, 4 wins, Grp 1 Sistema. Retired to stud as first Grp 1 winning son of Savabeel. From first crop 2024-25 produced Cool Archie Winner of the Grp 1 JJ Atkins.

$750k, 5 wins including the Grp 2 Matamata Slipper.

Won $1m and 7 wins including the Grp Sires Produce.

FFS you dumb arse Betcha is an ENTAIN brand. ENTAIN started trading in NZ 2023. So the increase is yr 2 vs yr 1. But you keep being the Prince of Darkness!

They don't have a Casino license in NZ numb nuts. You've been telling us that for months.

NGR

I was probably too quick out of the gates and the press release has been changed.

Would you like us to run a Raffle or start a Givealittle page?

Enhancements Announced for 2025 New Zealand Cup Week - NZTR nztr.co.nz 2024 Group 1 Barneswood Farm New Zealand 1000 Guineas® (1600m) winner, Captured by Love. New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) and the Canterbury Jockey Club (CJC) have unveiled a series of enhancements to this year’s New Zealand Cup Meeting, with significant prizemoney boosts and a refreshed race programme set to elevate the South Island's marquee Spring racing carnival. From November, each of the three feature races will carry an additional $50,000 in stakes. The Group 1 Al Basti Equiworld Dubai 53rd New Zealand 2000 Guineas® (1600m) will now be run for $700,000, the Group 1 Barneswood Farm 53rd New Zealand 1000 Guineas® (1600m) will rise to $600,000, and the Group 3 162nd New Zealand Cup (3200m) is now worth $450,000. NZTR Chief Executive Officer Matt Ballesty said the enhancements reflected the importance of Cup Week on New Zealand’s racing calendar. “The New Zealand Cup Meeting is one of the country’s most important and recognisable racing carnivals, attracting both national and international attention and providing excellent exposure for our sport.” “NZTR is pleased to support the Canterbury Jockey Club with these increases, which strengthen the quality and appeal of the week’s flagship events,” Ballesty said. Alongside the prizemoney increases, the New Zealand Pattern Committee has approved a change to the programme that will see the order of the Guineas races reversed. The New Zealand 1000 Guineas® will now open the carnival on Saturday 8 November, while New Zealand 2000 Guineas® will be staged at the New Zealand Cup Day meeting on Saturday 15 November. NZTR’s Senior Handicapper Bruce Sherwin commented on the rationale for the swap. “This adjustment has been made to allow a greater chance for a top filly to back up in the 2000 Guineas, while also aligning the race more logically with its key lead-up, the Group 2 James and Annie Sarten Memorial [1400m], which will now be 19 days prior rather than the current period of 12 days.” “A flow-on effect from this change will see the Group 2 Windsor Park Stud Soliloquy Stakes [1400m] move one week earlier to Saturday 18 October, maintaining the traditional three-week lead-in to the 1000 Guineas.” “Both the 1000 Guineas and 2000 Guineas are also Bonus Eligible races for the NZB Kiwi, offering added incentives for owners and trainers to target Riccarton Park’s premier fixtures,” Sherwin said. The winner of the 2025 New Zealand 2000 Guineas® will have the first right to negotiate with the CJC for use of its slot in the 2026 $4,000,000 NZB Kiwi (1500m), the Southern Hemisphere’s richest three-year-old race. If that opportunity is not taken up, the New Zealand 1000 Guineas® winner will be offered the second option to negotiate with the Club. To further support participation, the CJC will again offer its travel incentive scheme for horses flying to Christchurch to contest Cup Week’s feature races. The scheme provides financial assistance through subsidised air transport, helping leading contenders from across New Zealand compete on the Riccarton Park stage. CJC Chief Executive Officer Bruce Sherwin said the changes build on the momentum and appeal of the carnival. “Cup Week is a cornerstone of New Zealand racing, drawing top-quality horses, trainers and jockeys from across the country.” “These enhancements, both in prizemoney and programming, will add even more excitement for participants and racegoers, and further cement Riccarton Park as a must-visit venue during November.” “We look forward to hosting another outstanding week of racing, fashion and entertainment in 2025," he said. The New Zealand Cup Meeting will run from Saturday 8 November to Saturday 15 November 2025, with Riccarton Park hosting three spectacular days of racing alongside Christchurch’s wider festival of sport, entertainment and fashion.

Don't you see the contradiction? Your free market win at all costs punting funds your benevolent non-competitive social good. I'm the opposite I want any horse I own to win as much as it can and only have a wager for entertainment. The latter probably funds your wagering winnings although I only bet on the NZTAB so probably not.

So you want the rest of us to fund your hobby? One I might add where you are happy to race a horse that wins one race in 20.

Didn't help when successive Labour Governments made the cost of the inputs to manufacturing so expensive or unattainable. Perhaps but what business gives their product for no cost to someone else to make money out of? Easy to set a "competitive price" when you aren't paying the true cost of the product. Even in free markets there are rules against that.

But you said you "are not here to fund NZ Racing".

Often the best 2yr old hasn't been eligible for the KM. For example Imperatriz. Since her year it has got even tougher for those not eligible for the KM to win the Grp 1's as the pattern is focussed on the Sweepstake and Slot races. All roads lead to Ellerslie and that track surface doesn't suit all horses nor does drawing wide. I doubt that it ever will be a fair track. Which ones ended up in the bush in Australia?

So you'd prefer Slot or Sweepstake races funded by participants?

But more profitable.

So if you back Argentina you are getting betting odds than 2/1.

Have you taken up cycling? Woops that Spandex. Who do you think most New Zealanders are backing? Even at $1.30 I imagine it represents a big loss when the AB's win. Does the "big difference" also apply to the other side of the bet? What is Argentina paying on Spandex? $3.40 on TABNZ.

Agree. Alternatives to stands. People don't mind marques when it suits. I think power and broadcast facilities need upgrading. But I suspect that the Avondale track wouldn't sustain much racing before problems manifested themselves. I doubt much maintenance has been done during the racing hiatus.

Well that didn't count last year. On a points basis used by NZB Filly of the Year Captured By Love won easily but didn't score a Grp 1 as a 2yr old. The fact is the voters are an eclectic bunch and base their choices on opinion rather than science.