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FFS another bromance! The difference SO FAR is you don't incessantly and only post posts attacking one individual. Geez Mikie couldn't help himself by bumping another thread asking "Is Brodie restricted?" It's the same with national politics. People are not debating or discussing the issues but attacking the person and they way they present their message. So we end up with polarisation and leaders who win who are of no substance that talk in feel good media sound bites!

Pennsylvania is still allowing votes to come in. No wonder they can't finish the count!

You are really starting to piss me off Mikie. I'm not running a protection agency for anyone. Brodie is perfectly capable of looking after himself. But you are now starting to become as fixated as Mehe and becoming a troll. You've been warned. Debate the issue - Brodie isn't the issue.

I've told you before that the issue with Mehe is that he posts NOTHING other than attacks on one individual.

Did I say you have or haven't said it? I can't be bothered looking back through all your posts and quite frankly your game is becoming tiresome and boring.

Mikie this is becoming childish and tiresome. Face it Brodie isn't going to say to you that he was wrong because he honestly believes Biden has lost. The reasons for that are complex and numerous. Just as you can't definitively say at this stage Biden has won. Now the only reason you keep pursuing this is so you can run around holding hands with Mehe and say "Brodie admitted he was wrong - LOL."

I've already answered that. YOU can't say he has definitely won either.

Are you deliberately this obtuse for fun? The Electoral Commission and USPS would know. What they were asked who gives a toss. BUT what they do know is that 150,000 votes that actually ARRIVED back to USPS have NOT arrived at the counting locations!!!!!!

Not as far as I know. If that was a rule somewhere then it is no wonder the whole process is fucked up. My understanding is that a ballot had be post marked/sent BEFORE or ON election day i.e. the 3rd of November or earlier NOT today. However State's varied in how long they would wait.

Are you just plain pig headed? The point is A is known. If A is 1,000 and B on monday was 400 you know that there is potentially 600 still to come.

FFS I'm not twisting anything. Take your Brodie half-blinds off and read: You have to register to receive a mail-in ballot. Recorded on a computer; The number of registrations are known and the number of ballots mailed out is known; The mail-in ballots are filled out and mailed back; They are received by the USPS and recorded; They are then sent to the counting locations. SO A: You know how many were requested and mailed out. B: You know how many came back to the USPS. Subtract B from A and you know how many possible votes are still to arrive at USPS. C you send the votes to the counting place. C should equal B. It appears it doesn't hence the 150,000 estimate. The ballot envelopes have scannable codes on them so will be scanned going out and coming in. No postage stamps required.

I should add that the 150,000 are those that have been processed but NOT delivered from the central post office to the election counting locations.

FFS Mikie you are morphing! I said - you know how many went out and you know how many you have back so therefore you know how many could be missing! Hence some of the court directions this week. So shove your crap where the sun don't shine. There could be more than 150,000 unaccounted for. This comes after the Postal Service failed to conduct a court-ordered sweep of its some of its facilities for undelivered ballots Tuesday. Those districts were: Central Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Detroit, Colorado/Wyoming, Atlanta, Houston, Alabama, Northern New England, Greater South Carolina, South Florida, Lakeland (covering parts of Illinois and Wisconsin) and Arizona. The districts were determined based on those that had low scores when it comes to processing mailed ballots.

I guess then you are one of his "followers" if you are getting the tweets first hand.

Because my understanding is that the mail out ballots have to be requested and are registered. So you should know how many went out and how many you have got back.

So what? At that point and still now now winner has been declared. So you neither of you are correct. Big deal!

Oh and the other thing I find odd is that it appears they have no estimate of what votes "are in the mail" hence the official count sitting on 99% for what seems forever in some States.

I don't think it will be proven. It won't be close enough in the end to make a difference. What I can't get over is how it is legal for these votes to turn so long AFTER election day. Let alone their stupid mailout vote option. Interesting how it seems mostly Democrats don't like walking down to the ballot booth on election day!

Who knows? Are you sure it is 100% impossible? NO. So at this stage neither you or Brodie know it is incorrect. But I do find it strange that scrutineers are not allowed in the room at PA. Actually I found that odd at this election in NZ. When I was active in party politics we always had scrutineers at every polling booth. Sometimes several at marginal electorates. This year I saw none.

The same way that your quote of my post is. Were each of the quotes in the same tweet? No. What text was before and after? What was happening at the time? Anyway it looks like he is about to lose Georgia. They have been sitting on 99% counted for the last 24 hours and Trumps lead has dropped to 3,000 votes. Apparently a lot of mail bags have "turned" up today.

Mehe you just proved my point - 99% of your posts are directed at having a go at Brodie. FACT! Let it go - you are going to go nuts!

All out of context and yes all incorrect. BUT none of them were in Happy's long list which by the way he hasn't provided a link to. However you need to learn how to interpret Trump speak - he doesn't believe in climate change and quite frankly I tend to agree that the reasons being touted for climate change are wrong. It isn't the use of fossil fuels. Pure and simple it is the number of people living in the world. Now the Left don't want to tackle that issue do they? "Environmental Friendly Light Bulbs" is an oxymoron at best. Just like Lithium batteries and electric cars they are far from "environmentally friendly" when you consider how those batteries are made AND disposed of. Same with these lightbulbs. They are only friendly because they use less electricity to give off the same amount of light. Do they give off UV light and contain cancer causing chemicals - yes. Are they more difficult to dispose of - yes. Wind turbines - again Trump speak interpretation - he doesn't like them. I don't either. One they are not environmentally friendly, are inefficient and from an environmental lifetime budget perspective are more costly and harmful than other forms of electricity generation. They are an absolute blot on the landscape and I'd hate to live near the constant low level hum. Now in some locations they have been built close to where people live (mostly poor people who supposedly vote democrat). They cause anxiety and stress which are recognised as factors in causing cancer.

Don't need to it's a given. In most elections anywhere there is some form of electoral/voter fraud. In NZ every election we have people who deliberately vote more than once. So in the USA will there be similar instances? More than likely. Indeed research says that there probably is but statistically it is very very low. Brodie's use of the term "fraud" is a bit loose. The issue in America this election is the number of postal and pre-election votes. The highest on record - about 103 million. So roughly 40 million on the day. The State by State regulations regarding voting in the USA are a mess. So could there be an abuse of process? Most likely. You've seen the pictures of thousands of postal ballots lying in ditches etc. Now those things don't matter in most of the States but with it coming down to the wire in these last five States who knows. With the way it has all been managed is there scope for fraud - yes. Has some fraud happened - yes (that's a given). Is it at a level that will materially affect the election - probably not. Remember George W. Bush only won the 2000 election by winning Florida by 537 votes.

That's not correct Happy. If you are referring to my approach to Mehe the difference is he only posts to either attack one particular BOAY'er or join the mob who are doing so. That's what I object to. I think in the internet vernacular they call it "trolling"...

Mikie FFS if during my 20's or 30's I was "friends" with someone that doesn't mean that their personality modifies mine. Epstein and Trump were rich young men who were in the same social circles in the late 80's early 90's who partied hard. Shit I worked for a Corporation in the early 90's where the parties were just way out wild. They didn't shape my personality, my morals or character.