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Everything posted by Yankiwi
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Lol. It doesn't belong on the track...
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So, what's changed here Mr. Dore? Did you put Homebush Max down into the #1 box for the first time ever, wearing his blinkers, on 20 Sept? Well, he did what anyone with greyhound racing knowledge knew what he would do from being trapped on the rail, leading to the death of Rocket Queen, a right tarsal sprain for What's On (luckily no fracture), and a wound to Libelle's right toe. Then magically, Homebush Max instantly changed his preference to an outside box (#7) for his next start a week later. How come Rocket Queen, What's On & Libelle weren't able to start again a week later? Someone made the decision that Homebush Max suddenly became an inside dog for a couple of races & I don't see anyone being held to account for making that decision.
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Warning to Posters - no room for gossip on BOAY.
Yankiwi replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Don't bother posting about your own life. I've posted about mine in depth on the greyhound forum & even that attracted a "thread lock" from Chief. It seems gossip or even fact sometimes isn't allowed on BOAY. -
Two full months complete in the current racing season. No overall improvement from the first month with reducing Major 2+ injuries. 6 of the 7 tracks running over the KPI.
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In the past, that has been the normal procedure. What was different this time was the positive swab wasn't a permanently banned substance. With the O'Regan Cobalt positive swab, which they didn't charge them for, the swab was taken pre-race on 25 Aug 2022 & the RIB turned up unannounced at their kennels to investigate on 20 Sept 2022, or 26 days after the swab was taken. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-reserved-penalty-decision-dated-23-december-2022-ronald-oregan-and-nyomi-oregan/ The first Pringle positive swab was taken on 28 Jan 2024. Then the dog raced & again tested positive on 15 Feb 2024, or 18 days after the first swab was taken. Pringle was first made aware on 20 Feb 2024, or 23 days after the first swab was taken. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-written-decision-dated-17-july-2024-robert-pringle/ Pringle was first made aware 3 days sooner than O'Regan.
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If that's what the industry claims that they do, then why shouldn't it be expected? It's their own mandate. Only 5 of the 73 starters were monitored post-race at PN yesterday. After adding the additional 4 post-race swab dogs, the remaining 64 starters went to the washdown bay, then straight back to their trailer, van or whatever their means of transport was. That's 12% of the dogs which were monitored, not "every dog".
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https://www.lovegreyhounds.org.nz/ Vets ensure greyhound welfare all day, every day? What about Saturdays? Christmas day? Vets monitor every dog before and after every race? They didn't today. They only monitored 5 of the 73 starters after their race today. How about telling the truth for a change GRNZ?
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The Pringle decision has been appealed, which was dismissed. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/appeal-written-reserved-decision-dated-20-september-2024-robert-pringle/
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I agree Aquaman. I challenge GRNZ to explain how a dog wearing blinkers is, for either the actual dog that is wearing them or any of the other dogs on the track, in the welfare interest of any of the eight dogs. Is there a study that concludes an eight-dog race with any one or more of the dog's wearing blinkers statistically safer than a full field of dogs with none of them with a visual impairment? And there's this ~ This means that a Vet is meant to examine & certify that the greyhound vision is adequate to see the lure prior to every race, as there is no "blanket" certification allowed for under the rules. It also means that the dog's vision of the lure isn't impaired when turning its head, the reason the blinkers are on the dog in the first place. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out the dog can't see the lure thru the blinker when it turns its head to have a look at another dog. Are all these individual "certifications" available to the public to view under GRNZ's transparency policy? The #1 dog can't see the lure here. I'd like to view its veterinarian certification for this race.
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PBD sprint today. This dog in box 1. First time ever in its 38 race day starts. Obviously had a midtrack preference before it's last two starts. Same dogs gear. Dog's near the lead in the corner, gets tightened near the rail a bit & switches out wider (unable to see sideways). Carnage follows. So just what happened to get an obviously midtrack dog down in the #1 box as "preferred" starting position, especially with no peripheral vision? Asking for the 3 other dogs their trainers & owners that got taken out.
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Having a seizure is nothing happening? Then why were the two dogs stood down requiring veterinary clearance & a trial? They seem odd requirements to impose because nothing happened. Mitcham Millie hasn't completed a return to racing trial since winning at Southland then having a post-race seizure nearly 4 weeks ago. https://www.grnz.co.nz/greyhounds/profiles.aspx?AnimalID=35641 Mitcham Minty hasn't completed a return to racing trial since winning its maiden race at Christchurch in quick time then having a post-race seizure nearly 4 weeks ago. https://www.grnz.co.nz/greyhounds/profiles.aspx?AnimalID=36666 I sure hope that GRNZ, the RIB and/or the Veterinarian was/are able to get to the bottom of what caused these back-to-back very rare anomalies.
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Odd thing is, the employment issue has already played out, thus GRNZ's former National Track Curator is no longer employed by GRNZ. There was a bit of an uproar when GRNZ initially filled the position. History sometimes repeats. Seems this time was one of them. Anyways, let's get back to welfare. So, who's investigating and/or fixing the Southland track issues where six times as many dogs have incurred a Major 2+ injury this racing season than GRNZ feels is acceptable? Is the Racing Safety & Infrastructure Manager doing it from Australia with his binoculars? Last racing season Southland was by far the safest track in terms of major injuries. Something has completely turned around in the wrong direction. What's happened in the last couple of months? 15 Races are set to go next week. Cross your fingers...
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Fact check it before dismissing it or labeling it fake news. I'm sure Mr. Dore or Liz would love to hear from you.
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More importantly, how should GRNZ fix it? GRNZ has just fired their national track curator due to issues that have nothing to do with racetracks or their surfaces. I can't see how that would be putting animal welfare at the forefront of everything they do. Oddly enough, no transparency about that yet.
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GRNZ and/or SGRS needs to fix this. 13 per 1000 Major 2+ injuries are way over the 2 per 1000 GRNZ KPI.
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The greyhound was injured during the race so needs to be stood down under rule 41(1). LR132A1 makes no previsions for an injury stand-down, but you're the RIB and you know this, right?
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https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Advisories/GRNZ Annual Report 2023 FINAL.pdf https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Animal Health Welfare Committee minutes/2024 06 26 AHWC Minutes.pdf
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I didn't. That's the figures GRNZ provided. In the reply the lids start to move at 0:02 6 odd seconds later at 0:08 they're at the 100m mark (sectional 1). 6 odd seconds later at 0:13 they're at the 200m mark (sectional 2). 6 odd seconds later at 0:19 they're at the winning post (winners time). So sectional 1 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 100m mark. sectional 2 = lids trigger (lure energized?) to 200m mark. run home = 200m mark to finish line. winners time = lids trigger (lure energized?) to finish line.
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Animal welfare does not underpin everything GRNZ does. Awaiting a decision from the racing Minister trumps it.
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Quite simply really. Either the judge is simply lazy, or the infrastructure of the track isn't set up for it, which would mean the track isn't ready for tote racing. Here's Kookaburra Bob's race record. On all the other oval NZ tracks a "Bend" is recorded which essentially is the running position of each greyhound during the race. You can see that he is slow to jump in his CAM & AK starts, jumping near to or at the back of the pack. With his WNS starts, you have no clue how he went about winning yesterday or finishing 3rd in his previous start on the track. So how do you get a line on how he runs on the track without watching each of his races? You could look at the sectional time of each of his races to see if he led them at some point before the finish line, which in yesterday's case, it's recorded that he did, which is a lie. By the timer being tripped by either power to trip the boxes or power to the lure (no one knows which) ~ It took 6.45 seconds until the leading dog got to the 100m mark (not him). It took 11.54 seconds until the leading dog got to the 200m mark (not him again). It took 17.29 seconds for him to win the race. How does Australia do it? Professionally! Healesville straight track yesterday. https://fasttrack.grv.org.au/RaceField/ViewRaces/1045736298 300m race - only one split time - each individual dogs split time & position in running at the split.