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Racing Act Legislation and TAB Rules allow the TAB to lay bets off!
Thomass replied to Trojan's topic in Galloping Chat
Are you and the Fish restricted yet Winga? -
Let's hope they genetically cull roarers in humans as well Sabalenka is driving me nuts right now and should be banned...just as breeders breeding ROARERS should be Thanks to the Gods of science wictory could be close at hand https://thestraight.com.au/roaring-breakthrough-could-lead-to-genetic-testing-for-thoroughbred-respiratory-condition/
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Thursday 15th?? Last year??
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She goes well fresh and Wodger said 'she's ready to go albeit will take improvement" 3 starts before fresh and over the same c/d she ran 6l quicker in the first 400M and ran home the fastest 400M and 2nd fastest 200M of the race behind Shamus 1st /2nd over 1200m as a 2 yo... she's a 2000M horse who doesn't mind 1400M at all Like all good stayers fresh Keep the excuses coming though and I'll keep batting you As before Australian stewards would've blinded Gryll's with stats and pointed out his attempt at "not using a race as a training ground"
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Onya, what about the other eye? Cataracts, macular degen., glaucoma...the silent one Seriously though Both O and the winner had exactly the same last 800M split What does that tell you? Good jockeys move forward off a slow pace without spending a penny..often without cover for little cost as well And of course Larney's advice.."try to keep top weighted horses handy"
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Clueless is praising you Punters had the right to see her improve from the 800/turn to behind the pace...rather than do ZERO... it's not against the rules to improve off a slow tempo to give yourself a chance for a sprint home with the leaders GS said 4l off them rounding towards the turn So I was wrong...even worse than I thought Educate yourself Magoo https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/53296/1/Race-Detail.aspx
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it certainly was the common consensus among the smarts, not only Steph Hunt but also Formpro 3.Aquarello is a smart horse, franked by the fact she just got beaten by the Group 1 winning mare Provence. She maps to sit outside Shamus in a sprint home, and that could be the undoing of Orchestral. She also has the fastest time over 1400m. RP $2.50, $3.40 ( Cash back race if 2nd or 3rd) So she is a good bet up to $50 So good on you for keeping smart company Meanwhile the hoi pilloried rightly expected at least a genuine steer instead of the soft hand shuffle they got delt Dropping 3L behind the leader on a soft tempo when a clear option ahead was available consigns NZ racing Integrity to the outhouse, once again.
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A very fear prediction You forgot to mention 1 win 1 2nd at 1200M though for O??
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O Started fav FO and = on the tote at 2.2 So ordinary average 'Joe/Joess punter perhaps aka 'unsophisticated' punters thought otherwise They were entitled to think she was ready to go and not the 'quiet' run given weren't they? Stephen Hunt also tipped the winner and predicted how the race would be run Not the fact Grylls would show zero urgency until the turn though fav punters were entitled to expect far better
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Even more INCOMPETENCE from Racing 'Integrity' Bored
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
oh just in case for the Knewmarkets of this world 2023 was 2 years ago, rules ok? Maybe RIB are using AI to generate this b/s?? And the TAB are paying RIB for this kind of b/s 'reporting' -
She was THREE lengths off the lead at the 800M Punter's had the ABSOLUTE right to expect Grylls to kick up behind the leader to be handy on the turn... off a slow pace Pulling back would've made it even more impossible from 4/5 lengths behind the leader on the turn
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So apart from having ZERO transparency wrt to investigating incompetent 'judges', out of aligned 'judge's' cameras and Sth island 'investigation' into an incompetent judge's placings They cant even do the basics "– 18 January 2023 – 4 days – Low level – 2 March 2023 – Otago – 5 days – Low level – Listed Race – 2 June 2023 – Otago 4 days – Low level – 27 July 2023 – Levin 5 days – Low level – Listed Race Mitigating factors to consider were Ms Hemi’s good record, despite this being her 4th breach in 12 months, the last of which was in July 2023, 4-5 months prior, 263 rides ago and her frank admission of the breach. A combined discount of 1 day is applied." How much do these blokes/blokess's receive to FAIL basic proffreading?? (SP!!!!) Then counting to 5 not 4!!
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A TOTAL waste of industry funds As Lance O'Sullivan used to say " With higher weighted horses, I tried to keep them handy as big weights tended to anchor them down with the resultant lack of acceleration" #whathesaid
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So SINHAMAN finally gets the win so corruptly taken from him and owner supremmo Archer Opened at 9's and creamed them at 5.5 over the longer distance with the BOff after over racing last time Ran a 0.8L in a G1 on the same course as a 3 yo When the incompetent 'judge' took the win and gave it to Wodger's horse...started 15's An absolute travesty STILL unresolved
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Not only a farcical race but farcically run as well! So NZTR/ATR got together and 'arranged' this farce apparently If O needed the race so badly just arrange a trial/hard hit out just like the soft az racel it turned out to be Australian Stewards would've been all over this 'Gryllsy, why didn't you kick up at the 800M when you were 3 lengths directly behind the leader on a very soft pace FFS" Gryllsy 'I was told to just give her an easy un for a next up effort...after all I'm not going to f up the 'set up' in case I get the drag for the REAL race coming up" If NZTR/ATR can waste 65K precious prize money like this they deserve everything that's going to come to them when this largesse is over
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I said STOTTY's NOT a fan of the suits and their deafness
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The Mobil Man exactly the same in the 1st Fine and 5 days...4th needs to get 3rd place money off the winner
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Stotty not a big fan of the suits and their deafness Like other talented riders who have come to New Zealand, Stott is well acquainted with racing’s judiciary system here, admitting he is not a fan of the way some of our rules are enforced. “Rules are rules and they are different in each country and I realise you have to abide by them. “But I think here not a lot of emphasis is placed on what the jockeys actually say in the room.” Stott copped that on Saturday when what looked like a minor careless riding charge when racing clear in the Telegraph cost him $4000 and a seven-day suspension. “I didn’t think it was worth that,” he says matter-of-factly. While that means he will miss a Trentham return trip on Saturday, he can ride at the Wellington Cup meeting the week after and, more importantly, the far more lucrative Karaka Millions on January 25." The owners (agin the rules) should sub him the 4k...especially as the 'new rule ok' should be costing them 50K!!
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So we all know the economy has tanked under this atrocious Knat Gumment, thanks for nothing Nichola, don't come back But seriously, what did the connections of ORCHESTORAL do to convince HQ to run 3 horses against her? Couldn't Craig Baker get off his chuff and talk a few R 75's into running as well and stump up the cost to run for free plus a few bangers chucked in?? Anything other than a 4 horse PATHETIC field A pony scurry would've been far more entertaining...even a side saddle contest with Victorian era ladies, corsets attached for authenticity?? Just give Wodger the money now and avoid any more embarrassment
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yes should've posted the vid nasty...thanks for that Note a head behind at the time forced back to 3/4L then came again to be a nose behind 2nd Just dock GRAIL SEEKER owners 50K ASAP
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I'm sure I read it somewhere and if correct it's unfathomable isn't it? A multi national conglomerate noted for it's dodgy behaviour funding an 'Integrity' Unit You don't think Dean Shannon gave Dr. Eliot's Board a ring and said "we'll scratch your back (funding) and you can scratch ours thanks very much" Nek minute TAB announces the RIB have told us 'no more no deductions.. ...It's a serious integrity concern" Oh yea of course it is....hahahahaha
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So confirmation from NAVAGATOR's jockey that he thought it cost the connections 50K Imagine being an owner, observing the interference, and being told 'that's racing" and losing 50k through a jockey's interference is ok At least give them the 4k fine Mr Goodwin maintained that Mr Stott should have straightened sooner than he did. He also said that NAVIGATOR ran third, and Mr Elliot had told Stewards he believed have would have run 2nd, if GRAIL SEEKER hadn’t moved in on him.
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It certainly wouldn't be 95% of the more serious 'investors' ?? Australian markets are far more sophisticated than ours and it's hard to imagine a a horse defying that sort of drift these days. Circumstances like sweating up, birdcage accidents requiring a vet check at the start and, as previously mentioned, going back from a wide draw as opposed to it's normal pattern of on pace can have these sort of impacts on the market Recently Guerin remarked "you can no longer trust a drift on the NZ market" Didn't hear the entire reason but I think I heard algorithm's mentioned Would you still bet the 'value' drift if it was showing signs of behaving differently to normal i.e sweating up, change to it's normal racing pattern et el that you hadn't factored in before finding value?
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"Like Thomass"?? lol It's the way you phrased it apart from anything else Now the 'bloods' are normal and trainers "just know it's going to run well"?? Like any horse in a race with 'normal' bloods...but your "injected" horse has that something a bit better?? As i say give me a blinkered up horse who a top trainer like Larny has trialled with rather than a previously sick horse 'injected' up
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Too true, you win by default The other places were full of psycho...phantic thom ass lickers where I refused to be used the 'chief wallah' even reads personal/private messages there How rude is that?