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If only they acted like the Mafia as well Horse's heads in beds Not "I've known John Craig for years and he's got very good eye sight, especially with a bit of contrast button"
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Can't wait for this so called 'follow up" the Lack of Integrity Board are asking for following Auckland Thoroughbred Racing's employee stuffing up the inside camera alignment It's on a par with asking about a sore hoof "follow up" When its a MAJOR Integrity issue Not only does RIB need to take responsibility but so does ATR by making an 'employment' announcement that both the Judge and camera 'operator' have been given the undistinguished order of the DCM in the NY Dishonors List
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Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye? So you think you can love me and leave me to die? Ooh Ooh, yeah, ooh, yeah Nothing really matters, anyone can see Nothing really matters Nothing really matters to me
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Have you rang Craig yet Chief? As you'd know Chief, it's important to have STANDARDS of behaviour and a 'gambling' industry HAS to have THE highest of any Just making up stuff and having 'Judges' finding 0.2L where none exists can't be tolerated Maybe that's how the Righteous Right Roll though??
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Because it mirrors the FAKE NEWS Pukekohe result where the time keeper couldn't find a 1000th of a sec margin Yet the 'Judge' found 100th/sec 0.01 to the 'winner' over the '2nd' horse and an incredible 0.2L margin where a "pencil thin" nose is 0.1Length Made up FAKE NEWS by the 'Judge' every which way
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if it was a DH why has NZTR posted a 0.01 sec win and a margin of 0.1 L?
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You'd think so wouldn't you? Look lets be proactive and sort the sit out from the chaff Give them a ring and "asking on behalf of a friend"...or for "the whole industry to secure the integrity of such" Ask for Craig Baker...'Bakes' to his mates I'm persona non grata as I've embarrassed them far too often They'd really love to hear from you...don't hesitate!!! We'd love to hear from you! Please don't hesitate to get in touch with the team. 09 524 4069
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Holy shit...didn't even think about that possibility but knowing how the whole industry operates you could be bang on
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Seriously, what a bunch of f'in AMATEURS Clearly, on Trackside the LIVE Judge's photo linx was showing a margin to MIDNIGHT EDITION over YALDI Then without explanation the 'Judge' announces a deadheat!! WTF?? Post race, after fuming punters bombarded Oatham with a please f'in explain, the full truth finally comes out "In post-race Trackside coverage, the photo finish footage shown included coverage from the inside camera which was not correctly aligned. The result of the race was judged off the outside camera which is located in a permanent mount inside the Judge’s box. Steward’s concerns regarding the inside camera not being correctly aligned were raised with Club Officials for follow up." Does this mean the f up at Pukekohe a few weeks ago where the "inside camera had a bent leg and couldn't be used" was STILL being used?? THE Premier 'club' at HQ hasn't got the inside camera aligned?? FFS!!! Then to rub even more salt into the festering wound the 'judge' sends this fake result and time to NZTR' 'results page 1 $6.20 57.0 57.0 NOSE 1.24.81 Andrew Forsman 5 $50.50 57.0 57.0 .1L 1 1/4 LEN 1.24.82 Bruce Wallbank According to this FAKE NEWS YALDI has beaten MIDNIGHT EDITION by a nose in 1.24.81 with ME's time 1.24.82 When the ACTUAL result was a deadheat Someone should tell the 'judge' when a deadheat occurs and the result of the inquiry reverses such The f'in time and margins don't change What a disgraceful bunch of Amateurs we have in 'control'
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Isnt the 800M area where Farmer Joe has his moonshine stashed? When Newsboy and Mickey Havoc went on their 'Gay Gore' tour and proceeded to scoff at the giant trout, little did they know 20 years later, on the Gay Gore re-union 'apology to Gore' tour ...they'd nearly lose heir manhoods to a group of angry Bogan locals who cornered them at the moonshine stash
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Listen up You're talking utter crap The Judge CONFIRMED the result The Stipes had to rubber stamp the result and knew the 'confirmed' result was b/s If, as happened at Puke, the Stipes were situated over on the Surf course The 'Judge' would've had another dont cum f in Monday in his letter box Maybe the useless Ruakaka locals could build a f in winning post after all these years?? Then he wouldn't have a blind freddy leg to stand on All he has to go on is a bit of red paint for a sighter #ffs
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David Ellis Inducted into the NZ Thoroughbred Hall of Fame.
Thomass replied to Wandering Eyes's topic in Galloping Chat
Contrary to some 'media' outlets Davo gave Jammie Richards a rousing rendition of 'How Great Thou Art' on Guerin's radio show on Saturday Some racing people talk utter crap at times -
WTF is going on with these 'judges'?? John Craig got the DCM and a new 'judge'?? Clearly a huge margin 3/4th, luckily Ruakaka have the stipes close to the Magoo 'judge', as opposed to Puke where the officail timekeeper & 'judge' nearly came to fistcuffs The Judge’s call was amended prior to the authorisation of dividends. The original call being 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd SUNSET BOULEVARD, 4 th BECAUSE. The amended official placings were 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd BECAUSE, 4th SUNSET BOULEVARD.
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Not at all I thought her style was exemplary, especially her whip use in giving horse's time to respond while maintaining balance
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The whip and learning theory If use of the whip is to be effective and ethical, and if jockeys are going to hit a horse and have it produce the desired response, jockeys and trainers need to have an understanding of learning theory (Evans and McGreevy, 2011; McGreevy et al., 2018) Without such understanding, the potential for abuse is heightened Use of the whip can be viewed as negative reinforcement or positive punishment, depending on how it is used; both are aversive, the extent to which they are aversive being related to the manner and force with which the whip is used The BHA cite the ‘sight, sound and sensation of the whip’ and induction of the flight response as potential reasons for its effectiveness, without causing pain (BHA, 2021). This raises three questions: What valid rationale is there for the whip being effective in ‘encouraging’ the horse if it is not aversive in some way? If waving/using a whip is not aversive, why do horses not habituate to it, making its use ineffective? If inducing the flight response (i.e., eliciting fear) is the mechanism by which use of the whip is effective, is this ethical? BHA rules state that the horse must be given enough time to respond before being whipped again If the horse does not respond to the whip because it cannot (e.g., because it is too fatigued), then it has no way of escaping being whipped again; the horse is now being whipped for galloping as fast as it can The fact that a horse does not display any apparent reaction to a whip strike does not mean that it does not feel pain – if it cannot control whether it is whipped (e.g., if, when it responds, the whipping does not stop, or if the whipping is applied when the horse is too fatigued to respond), the whipping becomes positive punishment For a horse that is already putting in maximum effort, this is abuse There is also the possibility that the horse may enter a state of learned helplessness in which it does not even try to respond
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Au contaire mon ami it's because WE CARE Old school types like yourself may want to continue the olde boys network but we have years ahead and as Curious points out The young generation can see through the b/s and the nod and wink 'judicial' process that goes on
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Was going well...nek minute gonnne?? Still riding work at Mutts I see and still apprenticed to Te Akau?? Other interests??
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Exactly, but it looks like it's going to a continuation of the same minus the flank whipping Which they got embarrassed into ...finally accepting after signing up four lonnnnggg years ago and declined to initially adopt Horses being continuously hit for 30 strikes, no matter how hard, is a constant unfair reminder to try harder No wonder Sammy is having a super last 4 years since the new whip rules of non compliance were actioned
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Coroner declines to investigate tragic death of Megan Taylor
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
Unfortunately the RIB's pathetic argument was accepted after further report were submitted to the Coroner Of course the 'judicial' systems look after their own and ignore the actual fact that riding into horses aka 'competitive riding' is highly dangerous and shouldn't have been taken as the accepted norm. Massive black mark to the Coroner -
Coroner declines to investigate tragic death of Megan Taylor
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
And just to finish off the expert jockey evidence and how the aggressive riding caused the tragic death and not the slight 'interference' Kim Clapperton "I believe that Denby was always a length in front of Kavish so that Kavish had to steer his mount outwards quite abruptly from behind her and made contact with Megan Taylor’s mount. At that point Kavish Chowdhoory “should” have taken a hold, evaluating the situation, that there was no room for him, but chose to kick up very aggressively to try and hold his spot. As a senior rider I would have expected him to ease the pressure and take a hold instead of adding more pressure to the situation. I feel he chose to look after himself instead of his fellow riders. " This is where Stipe Oatham disagreed with these very experienced senior jockeys and basically talked a load of b/s "He said that Mr Chowdhoory was committed to take the gap and was forced outwards onto Ms Taylor’s mount, which set up a chain reaction. He concluded that Mr Chowdhoory was not required to ease because he was committed to the run and he done so he could have clipped heels." So anyone watching the horrific vide ( obviously including these very experienced jockeys) could tell the aggressive forceful riding was Kavish trying to win the race, NOT as Oatham said 'committed and could've clipped heels' Pftt, wtf is worse, riding into 3 other horses at 45 degrees or pulling back in the unlikely event he'd clip heals? Which would've have resulted in "looking after his fellow riders" Ask yourself, not John Oatham -
What a shocking waste of a good track, especially in winter when punters have to put up with the cess pit at Whanganui in a single lane potential dwath trap is the arsonist out on how detention by now or did he get a wet bus ticket for a sentence Te Teko was another wanton waste of a good track, especially in winter NZTR still have 'issues' with racing Foxton?
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Great personality and fantastic person for the game but let's not mince words like the fawning Commos at ENTAIN 'media' do "wow, what an amazing last few years she's had" Here's how and a very simple case of cheating that the Magoo's at the RIB turn a blind eye to It's the continuous use of the whip while pretending to 'show the whip' which gives the horse a constant reminder of what they're there for...in consecutive strikes One could call them 'half strikes' but nevertheless, if not against the RIB's idea of the 'rules', it's certainly against the spirit of @10 strikes allowed Watch the head on below off the trail and in Chris Wood's stable yellow colours and you'll count @30 constant contacts, largely on the horse's highly sensitive flank...soon to be outlawed...BUT not Spratt's consecutive strikes Joe Doyle is another one albeit a different method with a very strong flex that also strikes in consecutive strikes It's CHEATING, but not as the RIB MAGOO's knows it
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"not everyone is sufficiently intelligent to be able to see things from the right point of view" What Don said
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So I've made a few inquiries The 'Judge' is employed by the RIB The photo finish operator aka as The Time keeper is employed by the club This is how it played out as Operator times the race to 1000th'/sec and cant find a margin 'Judge' informs the operator he's to draw 2 lines down his pik so it looks as if there's a nose margin Operator reluctantly draws the fake lines 'Judge' then sends his own made up times to 100th/sec to nztr..finding a .01 sec fake margin and then adjusts the visual margin to 0.2L rather than the usual nose 0.1L Presumably trying to indicate how big his version of the fake nose was Just like Pinocchio And the HOPELESS RIB thinks Nothing more needs to be said...move on #pfftt
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Coroner declines to investigate tragic death of Megan Taylor
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
I've watched the video many times and agree with David Walsh's take "In Mr Walsh’s opinion, Mr Kavish Chowdhoory caused the interference not Ms Tait who in his view had been “thrown under the bus.” [47] Having viewed the race films Mr Walsh took the view it was Mr Chowdhoory who made the deliberate inward movement when there was no gap for him. He was partially behind Ms Tait’s mount and it was impossible for him not to make contact with MISS PEARL who had blinkers on and turns its head out without noting its line. Any contact would have had an effect on her. Ms Tait tried to balance her horse but the pressure on its hind quarters forced it out. [48] Mr Walsh said that “Mr Chowdhoory put himself there. Referring to the race films he contended that there was a bump “just for a stride”. He said that it was only marginal and MISS PEARL’S head turns. He said that it was his belief that Mr Chowdhorry’s horse has made contact with MISS PEARL’S hindquarters, and this has caused her to turn her horse out. He added that she turned out because she was trying to regain her balance Mr Walsh would not have done that if he had been riding and believes if Mr Chowdhoory had not put his horse there this accident would not have happened. He said that “I wouldn’t have put myself there – I would have eased and waited for a gap”. He reiterated at that if Mr Chowdhorry had backed off none of this would have happened. " It's the accepted way to ride here though 'Competitive riding' aka allowing horses to be used as dodgems, steering into others to make gaps The rule needs to be changed in this circumstance to.. RECKLESS riding..a month off minimum and this playing with other jockeys lives will soon end