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I suspect John Oatham is behind the "ignore this rule" command Afterall he said the 'notification to change race tactics' was too difficult here even though it works in Australia He's too exhausted travelling the whole country from venue to venue to know where the hell reality is pointed One of THE greatest wastes of spending in RIB's tight budget

I showed stipes this one of Shaun Fannin leaving welt marks in the Wellington Steeples...the head of RIB at the time said "the vet was too busy with other things at the time" like this one of JKB

FFS...the flank's where the flank is!! The nasty screen shot of JKB's welt mark...right on the flank! Like we all know where your lint filled belly button or is that where your ass is? get a grip man!

Suffice to say Any 'bet' that dosn't meet the minimum bet level is a dead set long term loser...obviously Unless Entain are letting their mates on?? What's incredible though...is the likes of bookmaker Steve Hunt, who has a part in setting the odds...is allowed to punt!

oh of course it is...doh!!

And Bruno in the 2nd race with the final strike before he gets up in the last few strides, the ultimate stinging 90 degree flex using all the muscle he can muster...into the flank And 'they'say "it's all about the noise not the hurt' #pfftt

The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space.

It shows JKB striking the flank with the non padded polymer/handle and the resultant indentation/welt left VERBOTEN

#yeana Take a look at the vid nasty https://loveracing.nz/Common/SystemTemplates/Modal/Video.aspx?v=http%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f202505%2fM4_WANG_R05_310525.mp4&i=%2fCommon%2fImage.ashx%3fw%3d565%26h%3d314%26a%3d1%26o%3d1%26z%3d1%26bg%3deeeeee%26p%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f202505%2fM4_WANG_R05_310525.jpg&r=Race 5 - DAWN EALES-BALDWIN MEMORIAL OPN 1200&rs=1

Exactly! It's the sheer hypocrisy of NZTR setting up a 'Welfare' division, signing up to "zero flank" whipping circa 2020 with the International body...then ignoring it until they were dragged kicking and screaming this year to finally adopt it Then being found out to be virtue signalling (in cahoots with RIB) to turn a blind eye with ONE charge in 4 months where as you point out...it's OCCURRING IN EVERY RACE This is Toni Davies winning on IMA BRAZEN ONE at Whanganui with every single strike aimed at the flank...remember there's nothing about allowing strikes on a saddle cloth if they think that's ok...besides the whip end flexes under the cloth and onto the sensitive barrel

Excellent article Some VERY strange "big bets" being announced on trackside recently $1334 yesterday on Te Akau's horse at 2.5?? Money laundering?

Speaking of women...where's Sammy Spratt Has she eloped and changed her name?

You do your own? Bullshit The previously excellent PDF's have been torn asunder with inaccurate gear change info, AI 'intelligence' failing to match Stipe reports, entire form lines left out et el

Onya Chief Unfortunately by closing threads down you avoid serious debate and give impetus to the competition Who stole my intellectual property..and we cant have that Do far better

What gives, is nothing sacred anymore? I put a hell of an effort in to post ugly illegal whip piks and doo doo goes and plucks them off this site! Good question then, why was this thread shut down and my IP stolen to continue the debate elsewheres ffs?

it's called 'reality tv' You're in some kind of fantasy world where you think WELTS and ARM ABOVE THE SHOULDER have been manufactured by stealth...weird At least Gavin Jones ex Cop ex head of Auckland CIB has now changed his 'fantasy RIB report' to "5" after reading his mistake on here "After reviewing the films, it was noted that Ms Satherley’s mount finished the race off strongly. She won the race by a narrow margin and over the concluding 100 metres she struck her mount a further five times. Although the additional strikes were not deemed as being excessive nor were they considered to have been a determinative factor in her winning the race, a small uplift, as recommended by Stewards is applied as it is deemed an aggravating factor. Accordingly, a $50 (25%) uplift is applied to the starting point penalty. Note: "It shall not be a contravention of the Rule if a Rider strikes a horse seven times prior to the 100-metre mark and does not strike the horse more than three times after the 100-metre mark. On this occasion Ms Satherley struck her mount five times after the 100 mark. Thus, the reason for the charge." So the sectional times are in and Josh ran 0.05 faster from the 400M to the 200M or a lg nk/1/2L...and 5 strikes...enabled him to be level at the 200M and a further 7 strikes from the 200M maintained a 0.1L win And old mate Gav 'thinks' the cheating didn't make a jot of difference #pfftt

What on earth are you talking about? "this type of image" is straight off the telly with ZERO photo shopping as per Curious posting exactly the same shot I couldn't photo shop a fly let alone a horse...I'm useless at anything tech These REAL piks show the RIB/NZTR are virtual signalling their way into the November 'thoroughbred open day' where multi media will be present lauding the effort of 'horse people' that it's all 'zero pain and total care' When EVERY single race shows a jockey striking the flank of a horse which of course is verboten due to the extreme pain a horse feels on that area Only the RIB stipes have been instructed to ignore this rule...with one only charge been issued in over 3/4 months Wake up

You're right, Neil knows his stuff Especially good at adding form lines like "slower inner' which saves having to remember what the form was on a certain day AI can go to hell as far as I'm concerned Entain's spend has been enormous on talking heads but FORM is permanent...and race form is King..not celebs

I guess so still... been ill for 18 months and 23 yo We have to stop the anthropomorphism in it's tracks though don't we? Mostly, we all love the animal BUT humans they aint While we're at it The next moron who says 'fly high with the angels" after some poor human meets his maker...where absolutely no maker exists let alone a freaken angel.. ...should be made to spend 6 hours watching a speech from that other f'in moron of morons Trump ...suddenly a converted Christian, who flogs off Bibles in his spare time (made in Choina) when asked what his favourite passage is claims the 5th "oh that's a very personal thing and I won't be doing it' F in moron

Interesting...I've lined up the 100M pole and I'm definitely arguing she did 8 before that.. Gavin Jones, ex Chief Auckland Cop, now on the Adjudicative Committee gets it wrong when miscounting 12 Using the available race films, Mr Dooley demonstrated that Ms Satherley struck her mount (JOSHUA BROWN) 7 times from the straight entrance to the 100-metre mark. He added that she then struck her mount a further 5 times inside the final 100 metres. Gavin Jones "After reviewing the films, it was noted that Ms Satherley’s mount finished the race off strongly. She won the race by a narrow margin and over the concluding 100 metres she struck her mount a further four times. Although the additional strikes were not deemed as being excessive nor were they considered to have been a determinative factor in her winning the race, a small uplift, as recommended by Stewards is applied as it is deemed an aggravating factor." So I'm picking Gav agrees with me and it was 8 before the 100M when 5 allowed...then counts the 4 past the 100M...for 12 in total Uplifts a lousy fitty fine for CHEATING...still retains $900 ill gotten gains Funnily enough App Jockey Melvin, using her left arm, strikes @ 7 times up the straight and appears to strike 3 consecutive taps close to the line...not picked up After 121 mounts of outs...Lynsey then picks up another yesterday...when ya eyes in..it's in

I'm not sure...mayyyybe...but instead of close ups later in the day they've gone off to other venues Still putting in the massive effort to instill pain though...from yesterday...note the welt after the strike bounces off

So Lynsey Satherley breaks a 121 run of outs by CHEATING on Joshua Brown in the last Now Lynsey's a hell of a worker and battler supreme and nothing personal BUT FFS...Was it 8 before the 100m or 7...anyway the total was 12 and she's broken the rules big time winning by a snozz How do the punters/owners of MALBOROUGH BAY feel after following the rules I wonder??

So it appears Neil Davis, who used to do thoroughbred form lines, has been replaced or at least clipped by the fickle finger of AI Next minute Entain will be insisting real horses get replaced by robots...to avoid picking up their shit Bev Sweeney last week "it doesn't mention it, but that form line for ______doesn't mention the fact it was 3 wide without cover for the entire race" In fact it said "trailed" Here's a tip Entain The more excuses a punter sees in a legit form line....the more chances of re-investing yet again....or else they'll go walk their dog #falseeconomy

So Lee Callaway lines up to weigh in...nek minute he's off to the latrine and does what he has to do Doesn't weigh in for the punters first 4 bets and Stipes refuse to admit he's sick to wave the weigh in procedure 2nd time in 2 months it's happened...and that's UNFORGIVABLE new rule...hand in your saddle cloth to the stipe watching the Clerk of the Scales and you cant go wrong