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Mate you better wake up and snort some Roses or similar... You don't even realise the JCA Report is GOSPEL in this! Paul Richards initiated the protest...paste that in straight off... Davo sniffed in and pulled out and ONLY then did the Stipes take over... And stop this fantasy right now that you "contacted someone" I personally know the Right Honorable Henry Plumtree...and he was THERE!
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So Te Akau tells their Jockey not to give evidence to a Stewards inquiry.... No evidence then...In other words...'perverting the course of Justice' Informing 'their' Jockey not to contribute to an INTEGRITY process that the Racing Industry relies on for... INTEGRITY.... Cut and dried.... Te Akau DONT behave or contribute to INDUSTRY INTEGRITY Mr Ellis advised the Committee that he and Ms Collett, the rider of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE, had nothing to say in relation to the alleged incident.
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THE MITIGATOR...MASSIVE Punting Integrity meltdown
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
You have to wonder now what these Jocks are talking about pre race... ...and there's a HELL of a lot of 'talk' going on... Is it..."ok, you take the lead...I'll get a drag...So now I'm just going to signal to my mates in the stand...to GET ON" -
So you've gone very silent on this kenny.. Have you looked at the FACTS and decided it's not worth losing your hair over it Let alone your licence?
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No probs at all...at least it shows were not the same person! The thing is....it's got nothing to do with DJ stopping riding.....it's the runner ups perogative to run without interference... ...and if the other horse is running around losing ground the rules state that's to be ignored... One length behind at the 100M...head at the finish...after being taken off course and badly for 30M...I said 20M...got that wrong! If DJ keeps going it ends up in the stand... ..but the Te AKAU horse stopped it going any further...and distinguished its chances and rightful straight line it was running...
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No prob Brother...even Brothers get it wrong at times...just don't make a habit of it...ok? Just look at the noses then..if you don't like hiding the shadows...oh and Da Report... Again...it's NOTHING to do with the runner up...that the winner has done everything wrong... Its made up the length behind...going to run past the drunken sailor....then is stopped in its tracks... Readnweep brother...almost verbatim to what evidence I gave this morning....BEFORE the report came out... The Committee carefully considered all of the submissions and reviewed the video footage. It was clear that TARONI raced greenly in the final straight and in particular was wayward inside the final 100 metres. We established that at the 100 metre mark TARONI was 1 length in advance of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE. Shortly after that point TARONI had her ears pricked, head turned to the side and commenced to shift outwards when BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was racing on its outside. The head on footage showed that each time BORDEAUX LE ROUGE tried to challenge TARONI that runner continued to shift outwards. At no stage was TARONI at least its own length and one other clear length in front of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE when it continued to shift outwards. This is a clear breach of the interference Rule. Mr Noble was of the opinion that the contact between TARONI and BORDEAUX LE ROUGE occurred right on the finish line. Whereas we found that TARONI made firm contact with BORDEAUX LE ROUGE near the 30 metres. In our assessment as to whether BORDEAUX LE ROUGE would have beaten TARONI, but for the interference, we observed that a direct result of the contact near the 30 metres was that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was forced wider on the track, off its running line which impacted its momentum. We estimated that TARONI shifted out at least 5 horse widths inside the final 100 metres. As a consequence BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was denied an unimpeded run to the finish line. This made it more difficult for BORDEAUX LE ROUGE to get balanced up and past TARONI. In our opinion the totality of TARONI’s wayward racing manners inside the final 100 metres cost BORDEAUX LE ROUGE more than the head margin between the 2 horses at the finish. It was evident that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE reduced the margin from 1 length at the 100 metres to a head at the finish despite suffering interference from TARONI. In conclusion having considered the degree of interference, the manner in which both horses finished the race off and in particular the head margin at the finish the Committee was of the opinion that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE would have finished ahead of TARONI had such interference not occurred.
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THE MITIGATOR...MASSIVE Punting Integrity meltdown
Thomass replied to Thomass's topic in Galloping Chat
Too true...but some could be! Lets harbour the POINT though...in case anyone misses it... Its about certain 'punters' knowing this information...."other Jockeys told us they won't contest the lead...so just get on" That kind of thing...then their mates...and their mates mates In Australia they get to hear this info as a matter of course... HK Punters would have rioted by now... -
THE MITIGATOR...MASSIVE Punting Integrity meltdown
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Well big ups to Pete for being naively honest! It basically gets him off the hook for using the info to punt the bejesus out of it.... Its quaint 'Integrity' NZ Inc. The Feds will look, listen...but their ears are painted on and they won't want to create a schtir... -
FFS back... Absolutely NOTHING intended or inferenced.. anything else is a figment of your vivid imagination!
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Terrible news from Waikato Stud....any young horse starting its breeding career and dying is gut wrenching for all involved... Interesting Guerin said as a result of a very rare Liver Disease... Raced from the Waller stable...
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So Trainer McKay lobs up after the race for the post race interview... "we knew he'd get an uncontested lead...the other Jockeys told Shaun they'd leave him alone" WTF? So this is MASSIVE quality dead set GOLD information! It's the very same reason why the Feds are investigating the Harness rort...other drivers knowing there's an uncontested lead and betting into the information... ABSOLUTELY no suggestion anyone did this in this instance...but the problem is IT COULD be.... It raises a very serious INTEGRITY issue then... Should Jockeys be talking tactics with one another before any race...particularly way before the race as in this instance... Where any amount of people could have received this information over and above average Joe Punter If this interview had have happened in HK they'd be hell to pay...
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Btw...STOP being a screaming SHREW..ok?
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Good work...brother Did you enter the mascot race and take a pen reading BEFORE the race to ascertain if the Equine one had pissed on the rail on the way down?? Especially if it'd been lasixed before the dash...would have been an H 11 for sure...
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Let's deal in FACTS as they relate to the ACTUAL rule shall we? The key here, as in any reference point when dealing with interference, is to observe the horse's SHADOWS.... Clearly the interfered with horse has made ground through the last 150/200...@ a length to the head margin at the finish... The POINT you screamers are missing... ..that it has absolutely nothing to do with the winner running sideways and THAT horse losing ground or momentum as a result... ...the inquiry is focused ENTIRELY on the chances of the interfered horse.. and THAT horse losing the chance to maintain it's unimpeded line... The Feds simply do not look at a race and ask themselves "if they both run straight, who wins" Clearly then...they got this RIGHT.... And Of course you know already...contact does NOT need to be made... So not only was there outward movement taking the runner up off their rightful line...but the severe contact 20M out.... Would have won by a head imo....and no one needs to be humble coming to that conclusion...
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Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
As you well know it was very minor statement I'd made...along with Blinkers helping some horses.. ...that 3yo's agin older horses are more competitive...essentially as the season progresses... ...being a molehill into a mountain purveyor you grabbed this with your massively tight grip and delt to this minor statement with the sword of Damocles.... Keep gripping... -
Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
I think any 'horseman' or Industry participant would take it as read that I didn't mean 'ALL'.... Thatd be like saying ALL 2yo's have their peak performance at 2...and that'd be barmy army... ...actually my bad....make that February...that's when the next 3 month reduced 3yo allowance agin older neddys kicks in... The Handicapping Philosphy here must agree 3yo's en masse...get stronger as the season progresses... ...but that's the system...and Obviuosly not ALL will... ...back to your hole troll -
Fair enough...only asked to get a gauge how widespread it is here...especially after Wallers fine for getting caught Its part of this 'Social License' they're talking about though isn't it? If HK doesn't need it, even with their confined possibly more dusty confinement... ...we shouldn't...also skewing training reports
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Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
I'm terribly sorry you don't get 'Irony'... Perhaps they could individually dish out 3yo allowances coinciding with their birth dates... ...but that would be ridiculous Just like saying 3yo's won't get stronger and more competitive agin older horses... ...as the season progresses -
Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
It was obviously a typo you dickhead... This all started where your mate said I had a mental illness and should suicide... Hes a fucking Nazi and you're a piece of sheet...oops typo again -
Compared to the rest of the World we have far tougher 'bleeders' rules... So that should be changed... Do you know of any trainers using LASIX here then Freda?
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Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Look I'm really sorry I pointed out how ridiculous your "2yo form is their peak" stuff... That deffy should be cause for sanctioning... The background to all of this is when there was a post on Kotare Chief...I said "I hate to put a dampener on this but KC tested positive after that Cup" Bazz then said I should dampen my head with petrol...in other words suicide...then hardened even further when I complained.. So excuse me for taking umbridge at that then mate... A number including Pete then said I was a "wallflower, a sulker...". Hesi decided he didn't want to find Barry's post...it was up to me to go back through them... So something against the law...turns into you wanting me sanctioned... So you're a piece of shit -
Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Yes and you called me a "sulker" for not posting after that suicide proposal... Get this into your head...Im a professional punter who makes a living solely on NZ Racing... You're entitled to think what you think though...I don't care... But all of the above is totally out of proportion to ANY argument... -
A runaway racehorse caused a stir this afternoon after it was spotted hoofing it down Fenton St without a rider, closely followed by a horse and jockey chasing it. Thomas Sears was just minding his business standing outside the bank on Fenton St, when he heard something unusual. "I heard a galloping noise, so I turned around and had a look and I saw this completely jet-black horse come flying down the road in the oncoming lane towards traffic," Sears said. "In the other lane was a cop car with his lights on coming after him." ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with NZME. Sears went back to getting money out of the ATM when he heard a second galloping noise behind him. "I looked up and there was a second horse, with a rider on it, chasing after the first one." The horse was running north from the Fenton St and Hinemoa St intersection, towards the Government Gardens, he said. Sears said he believed that due to the second rider chasing after it, the runaway horse must have come from the racecourse not too far away. Races were being held at the racecourse this evening. A police spokeswoman confirmed police had been called to reports of a horse on the loose at 3.26pm.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503430&gal_cid=1503430&gallery_id=214533 Well it wasn't really lucky escaping yesterday...cleaning out a solid 2M Iron fence...through the car Park and out onto the main road down Fenton Street....off to the Polynesian Pools for a swim... Anyway you look at it...LAURAMIA was VERY lucky to survive...
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Melody Belle Trackwork at Flemington 29 October 2019
Thomass replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Pfffft..."fine gentlemen" like Barry who encouraged me to suicide...rubber stamped by Hesi....grasi calling me a "low life scum" when I suggested Blinkers work? get a grip son...