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Seriously ATA, you'll NEVER win with these lunatics.... If you give them 110% proof that Flying Pigs can fly...they'll say 110% the opposite... ...because they can't even work out a basic market %...amongst 101% other things... I wouldn't say it's a Litany of Lies..seeing it's the 40th Anniversary of the terrible tragedy... Buts its 110% close... Thats the narrative root 'published authors' take...they'll f you over just for the hell of it... REDZEL's trainer's wrong, Hayes shouldn't have put gear on, Whanga rail on an H 11 is value".... ...et f in el... ...and his flock of sycophantic sheep follow... Id label them a LURCH OF LUNATICS...

Of course your application for the Guinness Book is for the longest lost list of 'success'.... 2 Hundy into 10k is not only a record for a lazy Friday but also for a Lazy Suzy Saturday on here or anywhere.... ...not to mention the TIPPING MASTERCLASS of 2 Tris a Q and winner from 9 selections.... ...ALL coming home to roost in contrast to your nest of NOTHINGNESS.... Go forth and post your proof then McDuff ...or forever hold your piece... ...which you appear to be a World Record holder at...

As with most threads you and your cohorts enter...they detour off track and remain there... The market was always 125% without the Ballots, as per a normal race with the TAB bookies..but you sycophants were too scared to question the ignoramous about it... Lets agree MB was always going to be competitive after previous excellent form trips over there... ..who knew Blinkers a TT and Nasal Strip, to stop her bleeding, are universally recognised as performance enhancers?

Agree, De Lore was employed by Messara and then became good friends so he has an intimate knowledge of what's required... Those who continually question De Lore, and find fault in his dissertations, have a responsibility to put him on the right track if they think he's gone off them... Just a simple email...or it becomes a one upsmanship journey...

So Dittman goes into Queensland's Sports Hall of fame...and agrees with new whip restrictions?? The 'ENFORCER' has mellowed into a marshmallow! Mick Dittman at Doomben Race in 1997. RACING Mick Dittman inducted into Queensland sport’s Hall of Fame as a legend Robert Craddock, The Courier-Mail November 23, 2019 1:22pm Subscriber only Book closes on Australia’s greatest gambler How to find a winner at Doomben on Saturday FORMER champion jockey Mick Dittman will this week be inducted as a legend in Queensland sport’s Hall of Fame. Dittman, who rode 88 Group One winners, has been elevated to legend status in recognition of his exceptional riding career which featured more than 1700 race wins, including the 1982 Melbourne Cup on Gurner’s Lane, three Golden Slippers and two Cox Plates. Live stream the 2019 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship on KAYO SPORTS. Every practice, qualifying & race Live & On-Demand in HD. Get your 14 day free trial > The now-Singapore based Dittman joins George Moore as the only jockeys among the 19 Queensland legends including Greg Norman, Greg Chappell and Arthur Beetson. Dittman will be inducted at QSport’s 25th annual Queensland Sports Star awards at the Brisbane Entertainment Centre on Saturday night. MORE IN SPORT Colman: Is there any truth to Sun’s wild claims? Colman: Is there any truth to Sun’s wild claims? Holbrook makes first move with Cowboys enforcer Holbrook makes first move with Cowboys enforcer Today he talks about his remarkable journey. Mick Dittman (right) and his son Luke at the Gold Coast Turf Club. Picture: Glenn Hampson Do you miss riding? I would do it all over again, no qualms about that. I do miss it but it is a young’s man game and it is a dangerous game. You don’t bounce when you get older. When you hit the ground at age 50 or older you hit it like a block of timber. Nothing bothers you when you are young. Insight Beats Hindsight brought to you by You left school early didn’t you? I left at 12 and a half. I came from just outside Rockhampton. I wanted to try to ride and came down to the city but initially lasted just three weeks and went home but I came back again. Bart Sinclair often says in another life you could have been a doctor. How did you become so street smart? I’ve heard a lot of people say things like that but I didn’t think I was. You just learn off everybody else. Bits and pieces off people you would like to be like. I’d had ponies since I was young so riding wasn’t a problem. I initially did not go to the stables to be an apprentice jockey. I just wanted a job. Mick Dittman, Michael Freedman, and Damien Oliver prior to the running of the Navy Day Handicap at Flemington in 1995. You what was a trait you learnt off someone? I had strict parents. We were a poor family but I did not get away with anything. You knew if you did the wrong thing you would get belted. I had respect for my elders even though I was a little gung ho at times. I had a heart too. I was not the type of person who ran roughshod over people and I felt I did not change much. You rode for the great Tommy Smith. What was he like? Ultra-professional. All business. Never had an ounce of negativity. If you rode 10 horses for him in trackwork you could speak positively about nine but the minute you said something negative he would say “OK, see you tomorrow’’ and he would be off. He did not want to hear it. Dittman and trainer Gai Waterhouse after Teakau Nick’s win in the Metropolitan at Randwick in 1992. So you got along well? I found him great. In all the time I rode for him he did not whinge about one ride and I rode some bad races on horses I should have won on like Bounding Away in the Rosehill Guineas. I left my run too late and came in and said “Tommy we should have won’’ and he said “that’s okay.’’ Great trainer. Great man. It was just terrific fun going to the races with all the characters there. You won the Melbourne Cup on Gurner’s Lane with a daring ride along the rails. Was that the ride of your life? Things went right for him. He had an outside barrier but I got him back on the fence ahead of four or five and things just kept opening up for him. When we straightened up they all left the fence. I went around one horse. Dittman on Gurner’s Lane with jubilant owners Tom Borthwick and Andrew Ramsden after winning the Melbourne Cup in 1982. Did you feel like the villain beating Kingston Town? Kingston Town was just a great horse but they can’t win all the time and that was my turn so I am not going to apologise for it. What was the strangest sling you ever got? I won 11 straight on a horse for Henry Davis and the owner gave me two shirts. I thought “this is what it’s like being spoiled.’’ You were called The Enforcer because of your whip action. What do make of the whip crackdown? I think it is a good thing. They are still able to give them a few whacks. They are different types of whips these days. Some horses used to respond to extra vigour some didn’t. But if you were seen as being light on a horse an owner would often say “why didn’t you give him and extra whack?’’ Dittman shows his action on Stormy Regent at Randwick in 1994. So you prefer the modern way? I think the way they ride now with their weight and balance forward and being lower in the saddle, toes in the iron, not so vigorous and not so much all over them is a better way. If I had to ride today I would have to learn to ride in that fashion and I would be a better rider. Having said that Hugh Bowman and Damien Oliver still ride the old way and do very well so what we did still works. What about the animal protection lobby and the future of racing. Is it threatened? Not in the immediate future. There are some concerns but race horses get looked after that well. It is actually crueller to have a horse in the paddock where he is not getting rugged up at night or gets anything for all the flies and mosquitoes. 99 per cent of race horses are so well looked after. They get a fortune spent on them. You were apprenticed as a youngster to trainer Bill Kraft. He sounded quite no-nonsense. In those days they were quite tough and he was no exception. Up at 3.30am to start at 4am and you would go most of the day and once the horses were done you might have to mow the lawn. It was tough but good. Tommy Smith, John Giganti and Dittman at the Ansett Horse of the Year Awards in 1985, where Red Anchor was named the winner. Do apprentices these days get it a bit easier? Absolutely. There are rules and regulations these days. They don’t get hammered like they used to. Who was the most famous person you dealt with in racing? I met a lot of Australia’s Prime Ministers and Lloyd Williams and Kerry Packer, who I had a lot to do with. Those men you had so much respect for because they were very clever. You can’t be the same as those blokes but you have to learn from them. How has it been for you having your son Luke as a jockey? He has done well. He rides at around 56.5kgs mainly on the Gold Coast. He is tall and lanky and is like his mother in that she just loved riding and was big into the shows. He has ability and has found his niche and has a pretty damn good record. Dittman takes a spell with Shane Dye after trackwork at Flemington in 1996. Who was your greatest rival? I grew up with Larry Olsen who is still a great friend. When I went south there was guys like Peter Cook, Jimmy Cassidy and Shane Dye. Racing is the sort of game where if you have that will to win you really think you have no friends on the course. I really felt that raw competitiveness but the great things about jockeys is that most of them are decent guys who know what we all went through. Some are more desperate than others and I was one of those. If I rode four winners I wanted five. What did you make of the Winx story? Winx was known throughout the world and I have only good things to say for her. She was a champion mare and she was extremely well placed in weight for age races. She never really came up against anything you thought might have really tested her. They did not take her overseas simply because they thought there was no sense because there is so much prizemoney in Australia and she had those races at her mercy. I probably would have done the same thing but the ultimate challenge is to win everywhere. How do you feel about being admitted as a Queensland Sporting Legend? I feel very honoured and I am really looking forward to the night. I had an average upbringing and limited schooling. Where was I going to meet the Kings and Queens? I am thankful for my journey and what the game has given me. 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Really? Who, Yankee Vets with shares in the LASIX industry? Get a grip...15 kgs lighter and they don't run faster? pfffft The World's moving on from the way Waller and his mates train...if HK and Germany can do it the World can can.... The Thoroughbred breed has NEVER been so weak..1952 average 40 starts...now down to 10.... LASIX weakens a Horse's physiology...Imagine the effect of constantly running dehydrated.... The SOCIAL LICENSE to race Thoroughbreds is rapidly becoming a 'thang'... Why are we still putting weaned foals through needless branding pain when the tech has long existed to get rid? The constant needling of Thoroughbreds on race day to test for go fast bloods...some despise the process... SOCIAL LICENSE...paste it in your hats and say NO to LASIX

It's a real shame you've gone to the darkside.... Led by a CHARLATAN who claims 'knowledge'...written a 'bit' in a book... Cant work out a "140%'" market includes Emergencies.... Call 111 mate you've been had....

FAKE NEWS koppa.....Sloimon Bwidges has been exposed big time by Winn...again Enjoy https://mobile.twitter.com/winstonpeters/status/1197588051158941697 Winston Peters @winstonpeters No more fake news. If main stream media won’t do their job then we will go direct. 0:39 5.5K views 7:50 AM · Nov 22, 2019·Twitter for iPhone 19 Retweets 103 Likes

The massive problem is you and your wee mate cee are in denial about maturing horses performing to a higher degree... Especially in NZ...perhaps wee cee's right about the " they don't improve from their peak 2 yo race"? Maybe he's got stats for 1/4 horse barrel racing?? Hes closed up on that now... ..maybe he's massively embarrassed by it just as you and Bazz were about finding value on Whanga H 11 Rail huggers? Or REDZEL's trainer's wrong... Amazingly ignorant, arrogant brain farts you guys light the sky with... Any farts today?

Oh that's right you v the HEAD VET RACING VIC. ffs And it's simply a ridiculous example you give...when LASIX admin' is 4 hours before racing so they race dehydrated after 4 not 24!

Honestly...let's take it 'as read' that most Bleed....we all know this... Again...OBVIOUSLY it's the degree they bleed...High degree it's @ 1/2% some say 3%.... And let's come up to present day Speed on this Drug thing Theres a real push now for 'World Wide' Racing Rules...that includes 'Drug Free' racing... Its hard to imagine World Jurisdictions allowing the use of this Drug any further... ..taking into account that it's also a MASKING AGENT for other drugs... ...so the Feds show up to do an out of competition test the week before...Trainers says "oh weve just given it LASIX so we can train WINX harder" Yea na...this DRUG has had its day I'm afraid...

Just let the BP go already..it's clouding your already suspect judgments... Im sorry for prefacing 'the bleedin' obvious' when commenting on your stuff..but ditto AGAIN A neddy training on LASIX v one who's not...while acknowledging its "performance enhancing" ask yaself Einstein...ffs

Oh my...this shows just how ignorant you truely is... Its about 'compensatory consideration' when analysing form such as this.... A maturing improving horse could have 3/4 unlucky, without cover runs et el and you've missed those vital KPI races in your 'speed' portfolio Of course any form analyst worth their salt compensates for such events... ...just as they do for COURSE SEPECIALISTS.... Some find it hard to believe that certain surfaces, surroundings, left/ right are what animals prefer... ....but they'd be in denial of basic Thoroughbred behaviour

Seriously boys jealousy's a dreadful human emotion.... Its just one of the 7 DEADLY SINS though and I'll forgive you as you're simply showing A human emotion...at last... Ah yes....ENVY...who else wouldn't be envious of success like that on a lazy boring Friday? Some made a few grand off the Mel. Cup after arbing 10 horses..their MAJOR 'investing' event of the year....lol Obviously yous fellas have too much time on your hands though... SLOTHFULNESS is another deadly sin and I'm tipping you've got it in buckets... ...sitting there in your y fronts and pizza stained singlets.... ...dribbling with anticipation, waiting for my next lesson in cop the f on...

Results from an Australian research project suggest exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhage (EIPH) may have a genetic component. Scientists from the University of Sydney looked at the pedigrees and incidences of EIPH in 117,088 racing starts by Thoroughbred racehorses over a period of more than ten years. Bleeding from the nostrils (epistaxis), a manifestation of severe EIPH, was seen in 2,474 horses. Information was collected on a number of factors that might be related to epistaxis. After analyzing data on the age, sex, and birth year for the horses, the researchers found that these factors were significantly related to epistaxis, though no significant correlation was found for track condition, track surface, length of race, trainer, jockey, number of horses in a race, or time of year. There was strong evidence of a genetic influence in horses with epistaxis. When pedigrees for these horses were compared, several sire lines figured prominently among horses that bled. The researchers said this information could be helpful in managing horses with a tendency to have severe EIPH. So that's the Genetic evidence... And the PERFORMANCE ENHANCING peer reviewed evidence is EVERYWHERE As for training with it....just ask HK Punters about it...clearly if some are on it in training and others not it can't be tolerated... Its about INTEGRITY of the Punting Product...ok?

Fair enough... But if the alternative to racing with LASIX is the German version of selecting Superior genetics...I.e. banning Bleeders from Breeding... ...that's the best solution isn't it? All it takes is a brave decision along the German lines of ferreting out inferior genes...certainly sounds macabre and they've tried that before with humans but failed miserably... Imagine the general publics horror though if it got out that Waller was using Drugs on WINX...to make her piss a days urine out in an hour...just so they could train her harder? But in the meantime before the ban on Bleeders breeding comes in...and LASIX remains the Drug of choice... The Feds need to let Punters know who's USING Drugs and who's NOT in training... Just like HK did...but then BANNED it... Its called INTEGRITY of the product isn't it?

Exactly Fish.... Gras was born in a maze Methinks...and he still hasn't got out! In reality he's totes jealous that my Blue Print...aka as tipping winner after winner..at Value... Has tipped 2 Trifectas, a Quinella and a Winner...in the last 4 races I've spoken about...a TIPPING MASTERCLASS no less 9 selections...ALL coming in! Its about taking the bleedin' obvious...in short SUPERIOR FORM IN SUPERIOR Class races...back to inferior...mid weak type races... He calls it 'population' based analysis when in fact it takes into account the fact as a neddy proceeds through each level...times decrease Who knew that the HK based rating system we have here...produces improving times as the Grades or Benchmarks become stronger? He says he does 'fastest' times win...but then leaves out 'compensatory' considerations for time lost when 'unlucky' or 'without cover'... So a 3 time unlucky horse racing in superior class on unsuitable tracks is IGNORED... Fortunately in my BLUE PRINT it's not! Thats the nitty gritty...he's Blind as a Bat to CC's...a cartoon like Magoo prodigy... I wear Google like glasses with super hero X Ray vision... A very accurate analogy of the situation imho.. Btw...when I posted the 200 turned into 10k on a lazy Friday...he poo pooed moi taking some PLACE bets as part of some MULTIS! Who knew a $2 place bet in a multi...DOUBLES a return? Now he admits to place betting! Thats called HYPOCRITICAL isn't it?

Don't worry about Grumpy old Chittick koppa...the last time he cracked a smirk was as a 5yo when his party's Clown let rip with one.... Winn's too smart to get caught... Polly Party funding is a veritable minefield of sloppy slushes going round and round like a Slush maker.... Remember the Righteous Right Knats trying to split 100k worth of Chinese ameliorating backhanders...or was it up'd to 200k to feed Gerry Fatguts before he boarded his Jumbo Jet? Rest easy with this...Your tits are already drooped without getting them more tangled...

So you'd be in favour of race day LASIX as well no doubt Joe? Four hours before racing...no fluids allowed after that....racing dehydrated...otherwise it defeats the purpose...which is dangerous in itself If the 'new' reality is having a "Social License" to race...as Bernie states.... ...then the future is Drug free isn't it?

That's right...but it's continued use only encourages Bleeders from Breeding and weakening the breed... Why Germany bans them from Breeding of course... Its time to get serious about animal welfare and using this drug is part and parcel of that consideration...

Seriously mate...you're starting to get on my wick Your ignorance is so profound you could attach wings to it, paint it pink and re-name it Flying Pink Pig Ignorance... From the Chief Vet at Racing Victoria, Brian Stewart... “Furosemide definitely enhances racing performances beyond what might be expected by ameliorating EIPH”, said Stewart. This is probably related to the loss of 10 to 15kg of excess body fluid, as Furosemide is a diuretic, but it also may be related to clearing mild pulmonary oedema, bronchodilation and by causing an alkalinizing effect similar to sodium bicarbonate. “Training gallops performed on Furosemide will be influenced by the performance enhancing effects of the drug. “This is the reason that the Hong Kong Jockey Club does not permit the use of Furosemide in training because customers believe that the recording of training gallops may be misleading if it is influenced by the use of the drug.” So not only can you train them harder without 15 kgs of extra fluid but you can do so without the normal risks associated with the possibility of Bleeding... Stop cut'n'pasting nonsense from cheating American training websites thanks

I said it's a long range shot... BANG though... You're the LAST poster who should be commenting on Blinkers..you wanted all of our best NAKED didn't you?? Why don't you and bff grasi contact The Shark, Melody Belle, Catalyst and Loire's Trainers and tell them about your ideas on horsemanship?

So WALLER uses it...largely unknown other than stable staff having an intimate knowledge... But it got into the Public domain when he got caught Lasixing a neddy too close to race time... Using it as a performance enhancer in training enabling a harder trading regime without extra bodily fluids... Just how widespread is this WINNING practise among Kiwi trainers then? And the major question....if animal rights activists were aware of this 'drugging horses to perform better' malarkey... ...would the proverbial hit the fan even more? Of course HK don't allow any use whatsoever....it affects Training performance and skewers the INTEGRITY of Punting Knowledge... Time to outlaw its use here as well then...

Hilarious stuff...and sooooo touchy...Mr. STATSMAN... STATS are your raisin de tear...you prune A whole bunch of 'speed' STATS chucked in a blender...Blancmanged STATS... Except you ignore vital stuff like unlucky, without cover et el...so it's VANILLA BLANCMANGE...STATS with mange attached STATSMAN you is MAGOO... ...just accept your title

Even Après Races? Was there a beer swilling neddy at CHCH or you may have seen an ecstasy dropping Harness horse with Stars on it at Addington?