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No prob Brother...even Brothers get it wrong at times...just don't make a habit of it...ok? Just look at the noses then..if you don't like hiding the shadows...oh and Da Report... Again...it's NOTHING to do with the runner up...that the winner has done everything wrong... Its made up the length behind...going to run past the drunken sailor....then is stopped in its tracks... Readnweep brother...almost verbatim to what evidence I gave this morning....BEFORE the report came out... The Committee carefully considered all of the submissions and reviewed the video footage. It was clear that TARONI raced greenly in the final straight and in particular was wayward inside the final 100 metres. We established that at the 100 metre mark TARONI was 1 length in advance of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE. Shortly after that point TARONI had her ears pricked, head turned to the side and commenced to shift outwards when BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was racing on its outside. The head on footage showed that each time BORDEAUX LE ROUGE tried to challenge TARONI that runner continued to shift outwards. At no stage was TARONI at least its own length and one other clear length in front of BORDEAUX LE ROUGE when it continued to shift outwards. This is a clear breach of the interference Rule. Mr Noble was of the opinion that the contact between TARONI and BORDEAUX LE ROUGE occurred right on the finish line. Whereas we found that TARONI made firm contact with BORDEAUX LE ROUGE near the 30 metres. In our assessment as to whether BORDEAUX LE ROUGE would have beaten TARONI, but for the interference, we observed that a direct result of the contact near the 30 metres was that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was forced wider on the track, off its running line which impacted its momentum. We estimated that TARONI shifted out at least 5 horse widths inside the final 100 metres. As a consequence BORDEAUX LE ROUGE was denied an unimpeded run to the finish line. This made it more difficult for BORDEAUX LE ROUGE to get balanced up and past TARONI. In our opinion the totality of TARONI’s wayward racing manners inside the final 100 metres cost BORDEAUX LE ROUGE more than the head margin between the 2 horses at the finish. It was evident that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE reduced the margin from 1 length at the 100 metres to a head at the finish despite suffering interference from TARONI. In conclusion having considered the degree of interference, the manner in which both horses finished the race off and in particular the head margin at the finish the Committee was of the opinion that BORDEAUX LE ROUGE would have finished ahead of TARONI had such interference not occurred.

Too true...but some could be! Lets harbour the POINT though...in case anyone misses it... Its about certain 'punters' knowing this information...."other Jockeys told us they won't contest the lead...so just get on" That kind of thing...then their mates...and their mates mates In Australia they get to hear this info as a matter of course... HK Punters would have rioted by now...

Well big ups to Pete for being naively honest! It basically gets him off the hook for using the info to punt the bejesus out of it.... Its quaint 'Integrity' NZ Inc. The Feds will look, listen...but their ears are painted on and they won't want to create a schtir...

FFS back... Absolutely NOTHING intended or inferenced.. anything else is a figment of your vivid imagination!

Terrible news from Waikato Stud....any young horse starting its breeding career and dying is gut wrenching for all involved... Interesting Guerin said as a result of a very rare Liver Disease... Raced from the Waller stable...

So Trainer McKay lobs up after the race for the post race interview... "we knew he'd get an uncontested lead...the other Jockeys told Shaun they'd leave him alone" WTF? So this is MASSIVE quality dead set GOLD information! It's the very same reason why the Feds are investigating the Harness rort...other drivers knowing there's an uncontested lead and betting into the information... ABSOLUTELY no suggestion anyone did this in this instance...but the problem is IT COULD be.... It raises a very serious INTEGRITY issue then... Should Jockeys be talking tactics with one another before any race...particularly way before the race as in this instance... Where any amount of people could have received this information over and above average Joe Punter If this interview had have happened in HK they'd be hell to pay...

Btw...STOP being a screaming SHREW..ok?

Good work...brother Did you enter the mascot race and take a pen reading BEFORE the race to ascertain if the Equine one had pissed on the rail on the way down?? Especially if it'd been lasixed before the dash...would have been an H 11 for sure...

Let's deal in FACTS as they relate to the ACTUAL rule shall we? The key here, as in any reference point when dealing with interference, is to observe the horse's SHADOWS.... Clearly the interfered with horse has made ground through the last 150/200...@ a length to the head margin at the finish... The POINT you screamers are missing... ..that it has absolutely nothing to do with the winner running sideways and THAT horse losing ground or momentum as a result... ...the inquiry is focused ENTIRELY on the chances of the interfered horse.. and THAT horse losing the chance to maintain it's unimpeded line... The Feds simply do not look at a race and ask themselves "if they both run straight, who wins" Clearly then...they got this RIGHT.... And Of course you know already...contact does NOT need to be made... So not only was there outward movement taking the runner up off their rightful line...but the severe contact 20M out.... Would have won by a head imo....and no one needs to be humble coming to that conclusion...

As you well know it was very minor statement I'd made...along with Blinkers helping some horses.. ...that 3yo's agin older horses are more competitive...essentially as the season progresses... ...being a molehill into a mountain purveyor you grabbed this with your massively tight grip and delt to this minor statement with the sword of Damocles.... Keep gripping...

I think any 'horseman' or Industry participant would take it as read that I didn't mean 'ALL'.... Thatd be like saying ALL 2yo's have their peak performance at 2...and that'd be barmy army... ...actually my bad....make that February...that's when the next 3 month reduced 3yo allowance agin older neddys kicks in... The Handicapping Philosphy here must agree 3yo's en masse...get stronger as the season progresses... ...but that's the system...and Obviuosly not ALL will... ...back to your hole troll

Fair enough...only asked to get a gauge how widespread it is here...especially after Wallers fine for getting caught Its part of this 'Social License' they're talking about though isn't it? If HK doesn't need it, even with their confined possibly more dusty confinement... ...we shouldn't...also skewing training reports

I'm terribly sorry you don't get 'Irony'... Perhaps they could individually dish out 3yo allowances coinciding with their birth dates... ...but that would be ridiculous Just like saying 3yo's won't get stronger and more competitive agin older horses... ...as the season progresses

It was obviously a typo you dickhead... This all started where your mate said I had a mental illness and should suicide... Hes a fucking Nazi and you're a piece of sheet...oops typo again

Compared to the rest of the World we have far tougher 'bleeders' rules... So that should be changed... Do you know of any trainers using LASIX here then Freda?

Look I'm really sorry I pointed out how ridiculous your "2yo form is their peak" stuff... That deffy should be cause for sanctioning... The background to all of this is when there was a post on Kotare Chief...I said "I hate to put a dampener on this but KC tested positive after that Cup" Bazz then said I should dampen my head with petrol...in other words suicide...then hardened even further when I complained.. So excuse me for taking umbridge at that then mate... A number including Pete then said I was a "wallflower, a sulker...". Hesi decided he didn't want to find Barry's post...it was up to me to go back through them... So something against the law...turns into you wanting me sanctioned... So you're a piece of shit

Yes and you called me a "sulker" for not posting after that suicide proposal... Get this into your head...Im a professional punter who makes a living solely on NZ Racing... You're entitled to think what you think though...I don't care... But all of the above is totally out of proportion to ANY argument...

A runaway racehorse caused a stir this afternoon after it was spotted hoofing it down Fenton St without a rider, closely followed by a horse and jockey chasing it. Thomas Sears was just minding his business standing outside the bank on Fenton St, when he heard something unusual. "I heard a galloping noise, so I turned around and had a look and I saw this completely jet-black horse come flying down the road in the oncoming lane towards traffic," Sears said. "In the other lane was a cop car with his lights on coming after him." ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with NZME. Sears went back to getting money out of the ATM when he heard a second galloping noise behind him. "I looked up and there was a second horse, with a rider on it, chasing after the first one." The horse was running north from the Fenton St and Hinemoa St intersection, towards the Government Gardens, he said. Sears said he believed that due to the second rider chasing after it, the runaway horse must have come from the racecourse not too far away. Races were being held at the racecourse this evening. A police spokeswoman confirmed police had been called to reports of a horse on the loose at 3.26pm.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503430&gal_cid=1503430&gallery_id=214533 Well it wasn't really lucky escaping yesterday...cleaning out a solid 2M Iron fence...through the car Park and out onto the main road down Fenton Street....off to the Polynesian Pools for a swim... Anyway you look at it...LAURAMIA was VERY lucky to survive...

Pfffft..."fine gentlemen" like Barry who encouraged me to suicide...rubber stamped by Hesi....grasi calling me a "low life scum" when I suggested Blinkers work? get a grip son...

....Jockey in their stable? Theyre getting a reputation as good as Sth African riding schools now...interesting article Want a star international jockey of the future? This is first the place to look Katherine Ford | AUGUST 15, 2016 | 3 Comments SHARE The apprentices’ school yard resembles a cross between a children’s playpark and an army training session - but it gets great results. Photo: Katherine Ford Even without the eyes of the world glued on the Rio Olympics, Brazil is renowned as a world sporting reference. Legends like Pele and Ayrton Senna, both widely considered the best ever in their respective activities, are merely the tip of an iceberg more than half a century old. Its racing heroes receive little recognition domestically, yet the nation’s jockeys are among the most sought-after in weighing rooms around the world. Joao Moreira has taken international racing by storm in recent years, blowing away records in Hong Kong and winning at the highest level across Asia and in Australia. Brought up in poverty near the provincial city of Curitiba, today’s ‘Magic Man’ first came to prominence in Singapore, where his place at the top of the statistics has been filled since his departure by fellow countryman Manuel Nunes. Dubai World Cup-winning rider Silvestre de Sousa was champion apprentice in Sao Paolo before trying his luck in Europe. After a tough start, he was rewarded for his hard work and strength in the saddle by a first British jockeys’ championship last season, when his most memorable performance was a superb tactical ride to secure victory for Arabian Queen at the expense of Golden Horn in the Juddmonte International Stakes at York’s Ebor Festival. This trio are well known and respected back home in Latin American racing circles, but the real star in that part of the world is Argentina-based Jorge Ricardo. Famous for his long-standing battle with Russell Baze to become the world’s winningmost jockey, the Brazilian-born 54-year-old looks certain to regain the lead as his North American rival retired earlier this summer on a dizzying total of 12,842 successes. Ricardo is around 150 adrift but has declared his intention to continue riding as long as his health holds strong. With nearly 100 winners so far in 2016, the record looks attainable within a couple of seasons. The latest prodigy So where do these Brazilian riding phenomenons come from? What’s the secret? How do they learn their trade? Leandro Henrique: the first apprentice to be champion at Gávea racecourse in Rio de Janeiro. Photo: Jockey Club Brasileiro Leandro Henrique is the latest Brazilian prodigy. Aged just 17 and still an apprentice, he was champion jockey at Brazil’s main racecourse, Gávea, for the 2015-16 season with 202 wins. Mayra Frederico, director of racing at Gávea and also of the on-site apprentice school, says: “Leandro is the first apprentice in South America to win the [title] and I’m very proud.” One of the honours that accompanies champion status is a reserved parking space at the Rio de Janeiro track for the coming season, but Henrique is not yet old enough to take his driving test - so instead he will have the honour of flinging down his bicycle in pole position in the professionals’ parking lot. Henrique attributed his success to hard work, and he dedicated the premiership to his family and the ‘Escola de Profissionais do Turf’, where he learnt his trade. Hard work is something of a religion at the apprentice school. Riding instructor Marcello Cardoso, himself a former top jockey with 2,800 wins to his name, explains the success of the country’s top riding exports: “I think a lot of it is down to hard work. Here in Brazil, we know that it is very difficult to be successful. Of course, talent is important too, but jockeys need to have discipline and be prepared to work hard. In Brazil, this is something we are very aware of.” The young apprentices do just that, as they dream of climbing the same heights as their idols. The alarms sound at 4.30am and the more experienced riders head to the backstretch, the darkness broken by floodlights on the track and those illuminating Rio’s most famous landmark, Christ the Redeemer, which towers over the racecourse. Learning the basics The youngsters have no time to admire the scenery and they gallop up to 20 horses for local trainers in a whirl of activity that only winds down between 9am and 10am as temperatures begin to reach 30 degrees C (86 F). Mayra Frederico: “The school represents the future of the industry.” Photo: Godolphinflyingstart.com Those with less experience remain in the apprentice school to learn the basics of riding, with Marcello Cardoso placing a large emphasis on balance through exercises more commonly seen in pony clubs and children’s riding schools. First-year students learn to feel at one with their mounts as they perform ‘around-the-world’ exercises while circling, trotting and cantering sitting sideways, and riding with no reins. True to South American tradition, much of the riding is done bareback, with just a thick pad strapped onto the horse’s back, but saddles are worn for serious canters and gallop. “The students need to gain confidence on horseback, and to become horsemen before being a jockey,” says Cardoso. “Balance is very important, both in training and when riding in races. The smallest detail can make a difference and, above all, the centre of gravity must always be perfectly positioned on the horse’s back.” After four or five hours of riding on the track, “the real hard work starts”, Victoria Dias, a rare female apprentice, smiles wryly. Her father is a jockey and her mother, a former trainer, now splits her time between presenting on the Jockey Club Brasileiro racing channel and helping out with academic lessons at the apprentice school. In line with the economic state of the country, and its racing industry, the apprentice school is short of funds. But Cardoso does not require hi-tech equipment and facilities to prepare his enthusiastic students for the demands of race riding. Makeshift mechanical horse “The exercises we do are exercises I developed for myself after watching myself ride,” he says. “When I didn’t get the right results, I identified the problem and then developed an exercise to correct my position, or to get stronger.” Marcello Cardoso instructs Victoria Dias: “We can’t afford a real mechanical horse, so a friend made one for us,” says director Mayra Frederico. Photo: Katherine Ford The school yard resembles a cross between a children’s playpark and an army training session, as the riders cling to the railings in jockey position, sitting one behind another on an elongated concrete vaulting horse, or line up military-style, lead weight in one hand, whip in the other, as they repeat the movements of riding a finish. “We would love to have a real mechanical horse for them to train on,” admits Mayra Frederico, “but we can’t afford it, so a friend of the school made one for us and it serves the purpose.” Victoria Dias is to be found perched aboard this makeshift covered wooden frame under the watchful eye of Cardoso, who weighs down the right rein with a concrete-filled paint pot as he asks her to wield her whip with her left hand. “It is very hard for a girl. But every day, I try to put in my mind and other people’s minds that I can do this. It’s difficult. I don’t have the strength that the boys do, but I can do this. Riding horses isn’t just about strength but we need to be able to control them …” Meanwhile, Mateos, a 16-year-old from a favela (shanty town) community on the outskirts of Rio, is crouched on an inflatable half-sphere trying to pinpoint his centre of gravity to stop wobbling as he simulates a ding-dong battle to the line. “His parents are so pleased that he’s here,” says Mayra Frederico. “Where he comes from there’s not much opportunity to find a job, and he was starting to get himself into trouble. He’s adapted well to life here at the school, but the strict rules were a shock at first.” Leading the way on nutrition There may be no cardiometer, treadmill or state-of-the-art mechanical horse at the apprentice school of Rio de Janeiro, but the academy is at the cutting edge in one vital area of jockeys’ lives. Frederico says: “The main problem we have here, like everywhere in the world, is that the jockeys don’t maintain weight, they ‘do their weight’. All about balance: young Mateos simulates a ding-dong battle to the line. Photo: Katherine Ford “What I wanted when I started working here at the school is for them to learn how to eat properly. We tell them, this is a sport, they are athletes, so they have to have a life like an athlete. They can’t go partying every week, eat what they want, have McDonald’s and maintain a stable weight.” The apprentices have regular lectures from the in-house nutritionist, who closely surveys their food intake. Each youngster eats six meals per day, with quantities carefully calculated for each individual, depending upon their needs. Saturday night is the one time they are allowed to indulge, and it is the task on the nutritionist on Sunday to compensate for their excesses with a specially-adapted lunch. Frederico continues: “I am proud that my apprentices have breakfast and lunch before coming to the races and riding. And it’s a proper lunch of beans and rice, while some of the older jockeys spend two days with just a tiny piece of cheese.” A Darley Flying Start graduate who has had the opportunity to discover the best of international racing, Frederico has high hopes for the role that the apprentice school of Gávea can play in the future of Brazilian racing. “The school represents the future of the industry,” she says. “Jockeys can often become trainers once they finish riding, so if we can raise very good jockeys, provide excellent professional training from when they are young, they are going to be great professionals when they are older too.” In the meantime, the apprentices have more immediate ambitions - as one hopeful reflects: “Joao Moreira is one of the greatest stories I have ever heard; he came from nowhere and now he is at the top. It is my favourite dream to do as he has done, to travel the world riding horses. And, as for Jorge Ricardo, we all wish to have 13,000 winners like him.” João Moreira Silvestre de Sousa Jorge Ricardo Manuel Nunes Leandro Henrique Gávea racecourse 3 COMMENTS

I think you called them "clueless" when they changed... I could have sworn I saw one win TWINKLING being rated "highly" after his Derby 2nd... ...the connections complaining...then rubber stamping the form recently... ...and btw that "ability" is in our Handicapper's brief...not surprising really seeing as we arrived from the 'Motherland' and inherited their love of Thoroughbreds... Wow it is "odd"...you mean they're not all born on Aug 1? Who'd have thought?

Wow, what an incredible life you must have.... Travelling the World with your loving partner and Daughter in tow living it up at Ass Kit with a tip top hat on and Grey flannels... ...in Punce Pee Doh Andrew's closeted box next year after an invite perhaps? Its a real shame you can't encorporate KPI races into your amazing stats, or unlucky, or Course Specialsts, esp. at HQ though.. ...or 3yo against older horses after strengthening...in line with our Handicapping philosophy of diminishing allowances... When you're at Ass Kit next...You should book a meeting with the Brit Handicappers and tell them what they're doing wrong... But that Shrew Herman says we need to show some respect to you... ..because you're DA MAN... yea

But he thinks it's the ONLY way to win long term... ...clearly you and your boyfriend have encouraged him into having no life, locked up in his room all day...entering data ...when there's other alternatives... Thats right 'Maidens in da States' was it.... You agree with your bf and Bazz that Whangas 11 is best value on the rail uh? No wonder you can't win here...

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