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after that 05/10 date, the arrival of Facebook spurred various Racing related groups etc.. 2/3 still have solid daily action. The CWJ fanpage, it had solid daily usage, thankfully it took very little technical time and 99% were polite! lol, is that connected to @TAB For Ever Tight five!!!
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pardon! lack of 'site iq'? lack of users making the effort? how would #'s stack up say now? and back say 05/10? I recall quiz's I ran back then use to get 1000's or reads etc.. lol, I presume that like the total numbers involved in sites has shrunk like the pool of punters?
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It was around this time that most of 'our' better 3yr olds were still running in our black type races, then, slowly slowly the better ones started to be targeted by Overseas $$$. The Bayer then for a few years was a race when the top fillies often tried to beat the boys, often involving lots of press leading up to! If the truth be known! the Levin track might have been the smallest ever to run G1 races.. I recall a rider who won the race twice recon one she stole with a front running ride!
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Talking Otaki, as the Bayer gained in ratings, it then mobilized (sir) Arthur Williams to start spending the $$$ to get Terrace Regency up and running with the goal of G1...
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Talking mid-80's, that race day then had Massive local support! The track would be just about full before the 1st race! The really were a serious progressive club back then, getting that sort of race was very impressive! I have just had a quick look through me collection and for those 80's meetings I was working for Ken Lush, it was Photopress back then, so don't have many, I do have plenty from the early 90's... back to those 80's meetings, I use to take the turn for home photos then for Flash, so had to walk up the straight for each race!!! Rather amusingly, I would get followed up and down by a tribe of you Māori kids! Always asking 'give us the winner of this race', I had a top strike rate for that sort of thing! Ove the years I got to know a few of them! one was a very cheeky young fella who went on to be a pretty good rugby player! Calos Spencer. Comparing LRC to Ellerslie back then is a tad hard! On course back then, then were always solid crowds for any big Raceday! Personally, back then, I always prefered Wgtn Cup Week 1st, Chch 2nd... not even sure I would have ARC cup week 3rd.. defiantly not now a days.. Reflecting back to those times as a punter! While the fields were as a rule much bigger and hence the complexities that come from that, there was no where the amount of other punting distractions as in today! I'm sure I would have 15/20 hours studying every meeting!
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TAB / Betcha…. Please Gamble Responsibly!
Murray Fish replied to Newmarket's topic in Galloping Chat
gambling should be taught to all kids! I have always been happy to do that within my extended family! its been interesting to see how quickly 'sports' have spread a gambling vernacular in daily coverage! -
I have to admit a soft spot for that club! when I first started to drive the camera on course, early 80;s, this Club was batting on the front foot! Bayer Classic Day, Brilliant to be oncourse! 81-91 Some top winners.. Bonecrusher and J Cassidy (over from NSW). A great result was had when M Lyndon so out rode them to win on The Bishop! One could wax lyrical,,, Come in @TAB For Ever on the 'realpolitik', interesting to see if that are any Lawyers out there in support of the Club and others in a simile position?
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Quality OZ Racing is keeping NZ Racing going.
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
I am slightly surprise how there hasn't seemed to be much mentioning around the Cost of Living Crisis that so many are going through! the actual available disposable income has so shrunk for the bottom 60%, talking over the last 40 years! This decline is never mention much in racing discussions, not par for the course! (Tempted to mention @Huey Mafia mates! or certain peoples who have made Large donations to...) Talking about betting and encouraging younger punters to get involved with racing! To 98% I would (and Do!) suggest stay away, other than nickel and dimes amusing bets! Spend what you would on cleaning your car a month! Reason being the Take out rates are vulgar! Way to much NOISE/Propaganda, way to much to learn... Sports, lots of noise, but if you find a sport that you have some genuine insight into, then there is real potential there for grinding out a Profit! For me it use to be NZ Rugby, but now 100% Baseball. But gee, to make a profit! I have found I have had to be Very Cunning! and to milk a couple of great results via Bonus bets! lol! After the last big win via that I have Not received even one bonus offer! If one was actually trying to make a living then that has just got so much more difficult now that a monopoly has been locked in. -
Quality OZ Racing is keeping NZ Racing going.
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
sigh, numbers and then the reality behind them... Here in Dunedin , via ODT, there must have been 30/50 full page advs. asking people to open accounts, etc. I presume some of the update was via that sort of thing! It would be interesting actual #'s that the 'new' accounts bet? -
please share on this...
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yes.... hence the march into the sunset!
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Quality OZ Racing is keeping NZ Racing going.
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
oh the irony! give a transnational a closed shop! meanwhile! the Punters focus there $ on overseas racing and sports events... gee, this must end well!!!! -
Actually, 'nowadays' most live in urban areas! Myself, the entry was the 'local clubs', Addington and Riccarton. Back then, early 70's, lots of crowds and excitement was to be had almost weekly! Of course another big difference back then was that the working class man had a spare $ in their back pockets. What with this current 'cost of living crisis' I'm surprised that many punting numbers would be up?
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Guerin Report with NZ Entain CEO Andrew Vouris
Murray Fish replied to Wingman's topic in Galloping Chat
Mmmmm that's interesting some online critics suggested the scavenging would be the other way i.e. racing to sports. My simple read, so knowing that the old days of instant accurate betting is no longer available, that as 'us oldie$' in the racing betting pools decline, retire, pass on... that some younger punters might show some interest, but the simple reality of how hard it is to bet a winner in racing, on the surface its way easier with Sports betting... -
Guerin Report with NZ Entain CEO Andrew Vouris
Murray Fish replied to Wingman's topic in Galloping Chat
‘Strength to strength’ – Entain says its fully committed to New Zealand opportunityhttps://bitofayarn.com Entain boss Andrew Vouris has insisted that the wagering company is committed to the full 25 years of its partnership with TAB NZ, with intention to retain its NZ$200 million annual contribution past 2028. By Warwick Barr ● Wagering ● November 25, 2025 Entain Australlia and New Zealand CEO Andrew Vouris has restated his company’s commitment to New Zealand. (Photo: Entain) Global wagering giant Entain insists its commitment to its investment in New Zealand racing remains strong, with an expectation it will be able to maintain current funding levels beyond an initial guaranteed five-year period.https://bitofayarn.com Entain’s Australian and New Zealand chief executive Andrew Vouris says data from the company’s partnership with TAB NZ, formed in 2023, suggests that an annual contribution of around $NZ200 million will continue after 2028.https://bitofayarn.com Under the terms of the arrangement, including ongoing profit share, Entain has guaranteed to provide funding to TAB NZ for more than $1 billion for the first five years of the deal. Entain made an upfront payment of $NZ160 million to secure the wagering licence, while it shelled out another $NZ100 million, subject to the passage of legislative amendments, such as the introduction of geo-blocking, which effectively gives the company a New Zealand wagering monopoly. Advertisement The deal was met with widespread approval and Vouris says there is no chance of Entain walking out on the New Zealand racing industry, providing wagering continues on an upward spiral. “We’re certainly trending that way … but a couple of things need to go for us,” Vouris told Trackside NZ’s Guerin Report. “We need to deliver on our core promise … which is to go back to basics, make sure that we’re in the business of selling bets, reinvest that back into innovation, and make sure we capture all of the grey market that was there. “Second fold is we need the racing industry to, I guess, make sure they deliver on what customers want. “Customers want consistency of racing on our best tracks at the right times with the optimal field sizes, and those field sizes are between 10 and 14. “I think if we both do that, then we’ll deliver on that outcome.” Entain has taken a back-to-basics approach to its presence in New Zealand.” Under Vouris’ tenure, Entain has shuttered the TAB Racing Club because it did not align with its values as a core wagering business. It follows a similar strategic change to its Australian business. Advertisement “We’re not in the race ownership business,” he said. “We’re in the selling-of-bets business. “When we’re looking to deploy capital, I want to make sure it’s going into innovation and technology. That’s where we’ll get the best returns, and so that was the decision.” The TAB NZ/Entain agreement is for 25 years and Vouris is adamant the company is “here for the long haul”.https://bitofayarn.com “The business is actually growing really, really well, and we can see a future path for bigger growth,” he said. “So from my perspective, we deliver on what we’re here to deliver on, which is go back to selling bets and innovate in technology for the benefit of the customer. “We’ll do what we need to do, and if racing does what it needs to do, then there is a really, really strong business here that will live well beyond the 25-year partnership.” Entain shutters TAB Racing Club as CEO focuses on selling bets Vouris’ comments come as Entain is shedding 120 jobs in its Australasian sector amid an expected $60 million annual reduction in expenditure. Entain has already cut its Australian and New Zealand workforce by 60 people, and more employees are expected to leave in the coming weeks. It follows a major swing in strategy since the departure of former chief executive Dean Shannon in June. A host of senior executives have also left in a major reset amid financial regulator AUSTRAC bringing civil charges against the firm. Entain cuts 120 jobs, exiting ‘non-core’ business as part of Australasian strategy pivot AUSTRAC’s action involving anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing safeguards remains ongoing with a Federal Court date set down for November 2026.https://bitofayarn.com But Vouris says the outcome of the case will have no bearing on Entain’s New Zealand business. “Whatever happens in Australia with AUSTRAC, it won’t be impacting our New Zealand business at all,” he said. “New Zealand is totally looked at separately, and we’re growing from strength to strength.” Entain now has a legislated monopoly in New Zealand after the passage of legislation in June which enshrined it as the sole licensed wagering provider in the country of five million people. Vouris said the previous ‘grey market’ occupied by overseas operators was worth around $180 million, but that hadn’t just disappeared overnight. “Just last week, we found 200 illegal offshore operators still offering sports and racing products to New Zealanders,” he said. “It’s important because we paid a lot of money for a monopoly, and we want to make sure that we get a monopoly.https://bitofayarn.com “It’s a monopoly we have. But just to be clear, there was zero incentive of an offshore wagering operator cross-selling sport into racing. It’s our full incentive to make sure that gets done, and that’s why we’re seeing 47 per cent of customers that had never had a racing bet now betting on racing.” -
Any idea what year? I lived next door to that building in 78/79! #58, we often fired skyrockets at that building..
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lol. certain people...
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Hi, the person that I was asking for has made contact with him CY last seen with a camera on Winters Cup Day, 2025
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At last!!! Steps towards National Venue Management.
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
??? ...about to have some breath breathed into it? -
At last!!! Steps towards National Venue Management.
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
so, its all been dishonest so far.... -
isn't that why you should!