Jacob

I think its more so, most have simply given in and either left the industry here or gave up trying to have their voices heard.

clearly showing your ignorance here Chief. Muscle injuries tend to come from shifty surfaces or surfaces where dogs go deep into the track. Auckland has always had an issue with muscle injuries because of both of the above for example.

Interesting when the only other person they ever tried charging in our case was me and this was nearly 4 months after the DQ was in affect already. The RIU/RIB really do struggle with any type of consistency in these rulings

I wouldn't know the reason for this case, but gracillis injuries tend to occur when a dog shifts ground or overstretches. Tracks where dogs go deep into the running surface, or the track has a shifty surface at the top tend to be the main cause. I know the first case has been a problem at Auckland multiple times over the years.

Only took them a decade to try and solve Auckland and Wanganui's injury problem's. Whether Auckland's actually any safer would be a question only the trainers could answer as the stipe reports more often than not wont contain injuries picked up after a meeting in the coming days.

Hate to see a dog hurt itself but that was karma. Sad to see

Felt like race fixing but i guess you cant really blame him if that's how the rules are written. More the fault of whoever drafted the rules up and hes just taking advantage of poorly written rules

What a joke. I see Cole withdrew 3 dogs to get Federal Morgan into the final. How is something like this allowed?

Seems to be a real lack of dogs in this years event. Any reason?

Turnwald wasnt the person who traveled the dogs.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/125132920/mpi-launches-investigations-into-drugging-of-horses-and-greyhound

The problem with greyhound racing compared to the other two codes is you are guilty regardless of the level in the dog. This is my understanding from our own case a few years ago. Science doesnt matter because whether or not you, a staff member or someone in public is responsible for the positive, the onus is on the trainer. What I am surprised about is the new standard the stewards spouted about setting in the case i was involved in were thrown out of the window for this one. This is very dissapointing to say the least. As a side note, all staff and handlers of the dog shoukd have been requested aswell. Not just one member. There is no consistency at all on these investigations and fines

So where were the standards they were supposedly adopting? Why was no one was asked to be drug tested?

I am not going to applaud a kennel that rehomes one or two dogs out of 700. You go through the gap list and every one of there dogs on there was ussually sold prior If you want to stick up for this practice go ahead but I will not. Its inhumane.

I've never seen a breeder select 2 pups that look the best and kill the rest as pups. Everything else listed there is in line with the standards set out by the welfare minister.

While greyhound racing has improved. The biggest issue is always going to be the amount of dogs bred each year, how many make it to the track, and how many are rehomed. When there are trainers out there who supposedly have 700 dogs a year and only race 130 tops and rehome 0, it makes people question what's happening. Something like this is the only real reason I could see the racing industry closing

Because hes the one who deals with the running of the operation.

I dont think there is a sustainable number under the current model racing operates under in NZ. > We do need to lower the dog numbers > We need to allow a more even distribution of dogs breed > We also need to raise how many dogs can be re-homed

The current model is obviously not keeping participants in the game. > Many of the people in the CD have left or are planning on leaving in the near future > Northern racing is already on the thin side > I'll admit Southern racing is going strong but even they have their issues down there around numbers of dogs I'd give trainers 3 years to cut numbers down, seems pretty reasonable to me and cut breeding right away to lower numbers The biggest issue with the current breeding situation is there are roughly 900 dogs being rehomed a year. We have 2 trainers that breed roughly 700 a year and both trainers have next to no dogs go through gap

Also should note that from my understanding, the board are to afraid to cap breeding numbers If we could cap the amount of dogs a breeder can breed per year and the number of dogs a trainer can race per year, this would solve many of the problems listed in this thread. I think its unfair personally to cap fields to 3 or 4 dogs per trainer, this would hurt the higher grades and distance racing, but assuring a trainer can only race say 40 dogs a year, a breeder can breed say 30 pups a yr and an owner can own or have a share in say 30 dogs a yr would help level the field

The biggest issue greyhound racing is facing in New Zealand is that we simply breed to many dogs and the board seems to be contempt with this quantity over quality approach right now. There are simply not enough people and resources to re-home the amount of dogs we are breeding per year and this number just keeps rising. If this issue is not solved, I doubt racing will last 15-20 years. They tried to lower numbers by putting a cap on imported dogs but we all know that the imported dogs are not the issue here (regardless of personal feelings on this issue). We can lower injuries on the tracks, euthanasia on course etc (which is good obviously) but every dog has to retire. I dont have exact numbers but I doubt even 1/3 of dogs are re-homed at present

I'd argue alot of these problems haven't been solved. That's just me. I doubt by the time I reach 70 or 80, racing will still be around.

This is one of those moments I have to disagree, 70 starts at 4 yrs old is below average if anything

The cancer topic is interesting because the Greyhound breed has always been prone to cancer. It has more to do with genetics than anything else. I'm sure most vets could set you on the right path. I've seen some litters where every dog has died from the same form of cancer while other litters show no signs of it at all