All The Aces

Wonder if Peter Early will interview someone from RITA tomorrow to get some answers?

I would be most wary to any of Barry's systems SLB2.0. He doesn't factor in weight, nor any gear changes and whatever else, who knows, and his last two punting systems have been shown to be complete disasters which he continually refuses to admit. He seems a person unable to make any shift/change in his punting thinking, which is not a bad thing, as it ultimately helps us on the tote. ? Unfortunately a lost soul that cannot be helped. ?

Bazza will still be a denier SLB2.0 and refuse to accept any such a concept.

I am not trying to determine value at all, that is a different subjective topic. Barry has stated that he never takes notice of weight ever!! I have merely pointed to two of the biggest handicap races in Australasia and shown that top weights rarely can win those races. the evidence is compelling. He doesn't factor that in whereas I factor that statistic quite significantly when assessing those races.

Do you ever take note of what weight a horse carries when it has won Bazza. A lo of horses are unable to carry decent weights to win. They get to a certain winning weight level, get handicapped above their maximum winning weight and then struggle to win. When they lose enough points and their allocated weight has come back down to what they can win with they can hit winning form again.

One significant reason Bazza, seeing you don't know to factor weight as stated above, is that there is minimum weight standards applied. Therefore a lot of those on the bottom of the handicap due to that minimum weight restriction are not getting the correct weight they should be getting in a real free handicap ie they are closer to the higher weighted horses than they should be. The weight spread between top weight and bottom weight being constricted. So even though they are sitting on the bottom of the handicap they are still badly weighted which is why they find it difficult to win. A perfect example is: Grey Way got beaten by a horse at Riccarton by a neck when it carried 46kgs whilst Grey Way carried 61.5kgs. I would bet you a dollar to a doughnut if the winner had to carry the minimum of 54kgs now a days that Grey Way would have won.

Back straight at Ellerslie one day.

Not sure how you worked that out from the above Chief? I just mentioned what the average winning weight is for this race. To get to an average you can higher and lower weighted winners. The fact is that only one top weighted runner in the last 65 years has won the race and as I pointed out that was Makybe Diva. Didn't in the third one Chief as she was top weight and I never back the top weight in the Melbourne Cup. For the obvious reason as pointed out. There was no reason to not back her in the first and second cups, she carried 51kgs in the first and in the second one she carried 55.5kgs well off top weight.

Do your homework Bazza. The average winning weight in the Melbourne Cup is 54kgs which also matches winners in the last decade. Since Makyby Diva won with 58kgs in 2005 no other winner since has carried more than 56.5kgs. But then you wouldn't know that because you never factor in weight carried. Have you rung Greg Carpenter yet....and you still haven't given an explanation for abandoning your two tipping forays showing everyone how it is done.....not!!

In respect of those two races I immediately put a line through the number 1 saddlecloth winning those races. I am well ahead on the ledger as you would have seen. PS. Why do you keep avoiding Q1 when it has been put to you (by 2 people in this thread alone)? Admission of failure is the first step....hello, my name is Barry and I'm.....

How good was Glory Days placed. Wins 2 R72 races at Hawera and New Plymouth with 56.5kgs & 58.5kgs after claiming 3kgs each time. Goes to the Waverley Cup and wins that with 54kgs by over four lengths and then easily takes out the Wanganui Cup with 55kgs making it four on the trot. Absolutely slaughtered in the Manawatu Cup before a strong second in the Wairarapa Breeders Stakes at wfa with 57kgs. Then comes out and wins the Avondale Cup with 52kgs and followed that up with an easy win in the Auckland SW & P carrying 53.5kgs. Pops across the Tasman and runs third in the Sydney Cup with 52kgs (the winner carried 51kgs). Won close to three quarters of a million now.

1.You haven't answered why the two tipping experiments have been shelved or do we take it that it is self evident from the terrible results? 2. Have you spoken with Greg Carpenter yet?

Looney theory!!! Superior horses in lower grades weight factor is insignificant but you state you DON'T factor weight in ANY of your per race analysis. I believe it is a factor in the major handicaps and what more proof do you need than looking at the Caulfield Cup and Melbourne Cup (two of the biggest handicaps around) over the past 70 odd years. History clearly shows top weights have a very tough job to win those races yet you have no consideration for this aspect. Again, has Greg Carpenter got it wrong by adjusting the weight of the northern 3yos and should he have left it the status quo as weight makes no difference in your opinion?

Barry the expert punter (sic) who tried two various betting systems this year which both failed now states his view on weight when it comes to racing "I DON'T even consider it. I DON'T care what weight the horse is." (I assume he means "has".) Well Bazza consider this. Of the 23 major Cup races in NZ over the last year only two top weights have managed to win. Five To Midnight in the Feilding Gold Cup and Zacada in the Rotorua Cup. Let's take a look at the two of the biggest handicap races in Australasia, the Caulfield and Melbourne Cups. The last top weight to win the Caulfield Cup was Dunaden in 2012 and prior to that you have to go back to Comic Court in 1950. In the Melbourne Cup it was Makybe Diva in 2005 and then all the way back to Rising Fast in 1954. Only one top weight has managed to win the Caulfield Cup in the last 69 years and in the Melbourne Cup it's 65 years. And Bazza doesn't even consider weight a factor...….when assessing either race. ? I have backed the last two winners of the Melbourne Cup (I must have got lucky) Perhaps you should ring Greg Carpenter Barry and told him he shouldn't have considered doing the adjustment. It doesn't make any difference: A review of the benchmark weight for northern hemisphere three-year-olds in feature spring races has led to a change ahead of this year's carnival.Northern hemisphere three-year-olds have won the Melbourne Cup for the past two years, with Rekindling carrying 51.5kg in 2017 while last year Cross Counter won with 51kg.Racing Victoria's Greg Carpenter said off the back of Cross Counter's win last year officials reviewed how the three-year-olds from the northern hemisphere were integrated into the Melbourne Cup weights.READ: Cross Counter wins 2018 Melbourne Cup"The first part has been concluded, with the review of the weight-for-age scale," Carpenter told RSN927."What it showed was that the Australian weight-for-age scale and the table of allowances for northern hemisphere three-year-olds actually had them more favourably treated than their own weight-for-age scale in Europe."For example, a 3200-metre race on the first Tuesday of November we were giving them a four kilogram allowance against the older horses, which is the equivalent of eight pounds 10 ounces, and they were getting only seven pounds in the English scale."So, what we've done is we've amended the benchmark weight for northern hemisphere three-year-olds in the Melbourne Cup from 55-1/2-(kilograms) to 56-1/2. So instead of getting four kilos off the older horses, they will now get three."Cross Counter was weighted 4.5kg below weight-for-age in the handicap.Under the new scale, 4.5kg under weight-for-age for a northern hemisphere three-year-old would be 52kg.Carpenter said the benchmark weight for northern hemisphere three-year-olds has also lifted 0.5kg in the Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate. Greg's can be contacted Australia 03 9258 4671. Do let us know what he has to say there's a good chap.

Perhaps RITA will make big changes with regard to the RIU. July 1st tomorrow. ? Might be an interesting day in Petone.

You really do have to laugh. This guy Hesi states that he allows free speech on his site but then says in the same post that Thomass is barred. Hardly what I would call having a free speech site. ?

They certainly do not want a ban on the whip here Thomass

PERIOD!! That's a funny name for a racing site. ?

Will Matt Cross be taking over from Mark McNamara?

Just as well they didn't do the survey here Thomass. We only have five female jump jockey's currently riding here. Two haven't ridden a winner and one has had 1 win in the last four seasons. Another has had two career wins and one has had four. Emily Farr is by far (excuse the pun) the best female jumps jockey in the country.

The poster over there put Super by mistake instead of Sleepy. His reference was to Geeg which is pronounced Geegee.

I'm almost (I said almost!!) sorry for Judas and Brutus over on that other site they started. 3 posts in the last five days. Aren't they travelling well! ?

Most owners are also punters.

Sawyer Brown - The Race Is On

Someone from the other site has posted: Owner's Preferred Pronunciations 16-06-2019, 11:45 AM This reached a new level of ridiculousness today with race 1 at Te Awamutu where the commentator in a rather rueful sounding tone announced that the "correct pronunciation of #3 "Sleepy Geeg" is in fact Super Geegee. You know something ? It's not !! There is no language/dialect or previous precedent where this pronunciation would lend credence to the owner's interpretation. You may as well announce that "Mongolian Khan" is pronounced "Maldivian King". It simply isn't and to burden commentators, presenters and of course punters with this bullshit is unacceptable. If any commentators read this please ignore owner's wishes in situations like this for the sake of the future. It's batshit madness. Talk about being pretentious. Firstly it is an owner's prerogative to call their horse whatever name they want not someone else. Secondly he is incorrect in his statement "There is no language/dialect or previous precedent where this pronunciation would lend credence to the owner's interpretation." He is wrong: Top definition Geeg A variation of a term used in gaming, "Good Game" or "GG"