Special Agent

Absolutely Murray. I think you will find many Racecourses were gifted to Racing Clubs by someone, a family or group in their community. That's where the property should go back to.

Horowhenua and Capital for starters.

This is a real concern. It definitely depends who is in charge of investing. We've all heard the talks and hype, on the back of an overseas entity taking over the NZ Racing Industry. There are trust issues for me.

I don't think any idea is a bad one. You have to start somewhere. Young people are the future and here's one way of tapping into that market. There will be many more waiting to be found if you look. I'd give these guys a bouquet.

Several consortiums have not been successful in CD. On that basis consolidation of assets and funds is a scary thought for any club which has been a part of the failed consortiums. The thought of similar types running these concepts one can only believe it a matter of time until further downsizes will be necessary when the well runs dry.

Merely an opinion which is getting more restrictive to voice.

Independent media is not alive and well in this country. As for independent media in NZ racing, who's kidding who?

Proaction over reaction shouldn't be knocked.

How many people on here think Levin is bludging off Otaki?

Murray, you seem qualified to comment on how the raceday was at Levin, how those days compare to attending Ellerslie meets, and do you think the Levin local community would ensure racing at Levin again would prosper?

Let's just think about this for a moment. If Chief's theory was correct why would RACE be able to continue operating? Awapuni should have transferred to the code many seasons ago.

Be prepared to be surprised then. Another example of you having no knowledge of club history yet giving opinion anyway. The problems with the Awapuni track have nothing to do with Levin continuing to race at Otaki.

So if jumpouts are the biggest contribution Levin makes to the racing industry you think they are not sustainable??? If you think Otaki is subsidising Levin you obviously don't know Horowhenua and Kapiti racing club history. Didn't you ask about a Levin loan to Otaki from the financial statements? The difference between racing at the likes of Ellerslie, and Levin is their local community. How many Bayer Classics did you go to at Levin? Levin didn't cease racing because it couldn't make money. Go back over your history books Chief, and you will find one reason Levin is reluctant to join forces with anyone or anything again for the betterment of the industry because what might be deemed the betterment of the industry has been utterly detrimental to the Levin Racing Club.

Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about.

What do you call full revenue for a raceday rental?