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Other than the noted limitations, what flaws do you see?

They have. That's what the above is. Funded by the MBIE.

Happy to see them, including by Zoom. Might help pay some training bills.

Yes it's a very clever systematic analysis especially since he had to patch data together from media reports and whatever from most places. A bit irrelevant to NZ though. Seroprevalence research here suggested a figure of about .1% cf. > 10% in the likes of the US and Europe where the pandemic has been poorly controlled. Don't think Ioannidis included any NZ data. "The very low seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in New Zealand implies that undetected community transmission has been limited. This seroprevalence is broadly similar to a recent study conducted in the low prevalence city of Sydney in Australia [3], and markedly lower than estimates of >10% from serosurveys in Europe and North America where the pandemic has been poorly controlled (https://serotracker.com). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8365046/

Just to be clear Brodie, I don't think I ever said that or even thought it.

Interesting as she points out, hospitilisation rates for vaccinated and unvaccinated were no different. Not what Cindy told me at 1pm.

Now 34 I see. 40% < 40 which seems surprising for a disease that only seriously affects the elderly and those with underlying conditions.

No point. Just checking if I was understanding that correctly from a quick read. Seems consistent with other studies despite the complexities of trying to assess across countries.

Yes. I was working off the IFR .2% figure. If you use the .15% CFR would be about 2.5%?

Just had a quick read of this Chief. Isit saying that the mortality rate is about 3.5% of lab confirmed cases?

Now 25. 2 in ICU I see

I believe those are the peer reviewed citations acceptable to Nature. Total citations according to google scholar are 290

Try reading the data Brodie, not listening to ill-informed media reports and hear say.

Well that article has been cited 97 times since being published last November. That is the key measure of journal impact.

And btw Nature has the highest impact factor of any journal publishing basic scientific research and is regarded by most as a very prestigious academic journal despite your opinion.

Please post those citations then. I can't find them, at least in peer reviewed journals.

Do you mean risk averse? I'd hope health advisors would be. They are ethically if not legally bound to be.

That is complete bs disinformation. It happened last year too. Read what the coroner had to say about it when he released the suicide data following last year's lockdown which showed a significant DECLINE in suicide rates through June 2020. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chief-coroner-takes-aim-at-unhelpful-commentary-as-latest-suicide-results-released/SKFQCHU5OAK6UT6ATHF4VDZBPY/# I am a MH professional and have educated 100s of mental health professionals. Neither I nor any colleagues I have spoken to have seen any increase in suicides during this lock down either.

She and cabinet are acting on advice from experts in the health sector. Don't know what you mean about suicides. Do you mean suicides from amongst Covid cases?

There has been some really good work done using age specific mortality data to assess infection rates and IFR due to Covid. However, that work is quite clear also that there are a number of complexities in the interpretation of excess death data that can inhibit their direct use in assessments of IFR (see e.g, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0 ) Direct use of that sort of data is part of the disinformation band playing a tune that will somehow make a serious infectious disease go away.

Totally disagree with that idea. Don't think any overall death rates, age adjusted or not, are a useful measure for the impact of Covid on death rates. Too many other factors conflated in that data.

Won a Group 1 in Italy but was relegated to second. Second also in the Eclipse and Coronation Stakes. His second to Alleged in the Arc no doubt his best performance and unlucky not to have knocked him off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmWHPiz0uw Great day at the races though.

You think most of these cases were in the dementia unit?

Great. You have to give up when you have no substance to stand on.

On the other side of the argument, Covid deaths may be significantly underestimated due to scarcity of testing and deaths may be attributed to other factors when Covid was the primary cause.