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Maybe not but on a good day at least, he's still not far off it. Ever hear of tall poppy syndrome?
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Not quite sure how the penalty fits with the new rules but I don't think behind the saddle has anything to do with it. It's presumably still a strike with the whip if it's down the shoulder. NZTR Revised Whip Guidelines - Penalty GuidelinesNZTR propose the revised whip guidelines come into effect on 7 October.Panelists have already been sent the guidelines and are expected to be fully conversant with these changesThere are 3 particular changes panelists need to be mindful of. The first is the limitation of 5 strikes of the whip prior to the 100 metres.The proposed penalty starting points for a breach of this requirement are: 1st breach - $300 fine2nd breach - $500 fine3rd breach - day suspensionHowever, If the number of strikes is 10 or more a 6 day suspension is to be the starting point.Panelists should be aware the RIU will be using warnings quite liberally for early breaches of this rule and therefore when a rider appears before a committee he or she will have been amply warned of their use of the whip responsibilities. Little or minimal (ie in exceptional circumstances) mitigation of penalty is expected. Panelists should note NZTR’s animal welfare concerns in bringing in these changes and support that objective in their penalty setting. Note should also be taken of the animal welfare focus in the “Burgess Report” terms of reference.Where the breach occurs in a Group or Feature race and the number of strikes is 4 or more than the permitted 5 the starting point is a 6 day suspension plus a fine at the committee’s discretion up to the rider’s percentage of prize money (where applicable). If less than this but still more than 5 then a fine appropriate to the status of the race is to be the starting point.The second change relates to a restriction on consecutive strikes of the whip within the permitted 5 strikes before the 100 metres.Early offending under this requirement will be dealt with by the RIU issuing warnings so a charge ought only to follow a high end breach of this rule or circumstances where a rider simply fails to heed the warnings and adjust their use of the whip. Mitigation of penalty therefore ought to be rare.Proposed penalty starting points are therefore:Where it is a first breach and the number of consecutive strikes are 2-5 then a fine of $200;For a second breach a fine of $300;For a third breach a fine of $500; For a fourth or more breach a 6 day suspension.Where the number of consecutive strikes is 6 or more the starting point is a $500 fine. Should a rider incur a second breach involving 6 or more consecutive strikes then the starting point is to be a 6 day suspension.Mitigation is to be exceptional.Panelists are to be familiar with the new requirements and significant restrictions on use of the whip by Amateur Riders.The third major change relates to it being a breach for a trainer, owner or equivalent interest to give instructions to a rider which may lead to a breach of the use of the whip restrictions. The proposed penalty starting point for a breach is a $750 fine and $1500 for a second breach. Charges of this type are likely to be rare and possibly occur more around major races.IMPORTANT NOTE All riders’ records under the whip rules will reset with effect from 7 October 2019 being the implementation date for the whip guideline changes.
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https://loveracing.nz/Common/SystemTemplates/Modal/Video.aspx?v=http%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f202011%2fCBRY-R07-141120.mp4&i=%2fCommon%2fImage.ashx%3fw%3d565%26h%3d314%26a%3d1%26o%3d1%26z%3d1%26bg%3deeeeee%26p%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.racingreplays.co.nz%2fmedia%2f202011%2fCBRY-R07-141120.jpg&r=Race 7 - NZB RTR SALE 18-19 NOV PREMIER&rs=1
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It seems the flaw in the system is the starter who didn't reset the gate electrics. Either that or they should be automatically reset. However that may create a risk of them being triggered accidentally so it seems sensible to have a 2 step process. A bit like having a double layer of password protection for more confidential files. Though I don't think encryption would be a good idea here.
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Track - Riccarton Park-Canterbury JC | Saturday 14 November
curious replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
How do I get a share in one of them racing pigeons? just bought a house and it only cost me twice what I thought it was worth so looking for some place to spend the left over cash. -
Track - Riccarton Park-Canterbury JC | Saturday 14 November
curious replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
They should be using these or similar like in the UK but the total lack of investment in track infrastructure here for decades is causing the problem. -
Track - Riccarton Park-Canterbury JC | Saturday 14 November
curious replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Because of antique irrigation systems that don't provide even application or application levels that run off to the inside of any camber? -
True. You are never going to eliminate catastrophic injury. We try to mitigate them with various health and safety measures though. They have lowered the speed limit on country roads round here from 100km to 80km. They haven't banned cars and driving.
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$1.3m seems like a small price to pay when we are talking about even a single incident in a $5m race. And if you watch that video above you will see that portable scanners are now available and in use.
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We don't know if he was scanned do we? We don't yet know whether damaged or weak bone structure caused or contributed to that specific injury. I've not seen though any indication that he was scanned. If so, it would have been as a private activity.
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If you don't like that summary I can send you 20 odd papers to read.
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Watch/ listen to this.
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Yes. I get your point. It would probably depend how affordably that could be done if it is mass numbers of horses. But a bit of creative thinking (I know that's not common in this game!) would surely make it affordable for most. Maybe NZTR could buy a portable CT scanner and employ a technician to move it round the country and operate it? Then send to their vet for review? If it could be done for a couple of hundred bucks, I'd probably do it anyway.
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I don't agree. I think that bone scanning all horses before their first start each season would make a difference. Whether that should be MRI, CT or scintigraphic I'll leave to the experts. Maybe any of the above. You have to think about that cost in light of the cost to the industry of the catastrophic injuries which in the worst case could be to shut it down completely.
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Relentless indeed. Talking with a couple of key players in the last week they seem to have little hope that we will have thorougbred racing in NZ as we know it in 2 or 3 years.
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Getting people to the races hardly seems a high priority to me from a business perspective. We need to get horses to the races and punters betting on them in the first instance don't we?
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where have you been?
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Any update on Rosie and has the investigation been completed and/or reported?
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That too on non-gallop days.
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No. God does that for me every night as long as I say my prayers. The ultimate maintenance cost free AWT. And you could gallop 15 together along side one another as you can see. It also has facilities for cooling off tendons and ligaments immediately after the gallop.
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If bone and soft tissue is conditioned to working round bends by working and galloping round bends, doesn't that mitigate the risk of injury when racing around bends though? Part of the issue here is that horses are presented for racing that don't have that conditioning whether it be for track surfaces or bends, that will increase the likelihood of injury when they meet those bends and surfaces under race conditions?
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I suppose if you were serious about preventing catastrophic race day injury you could require that all horses have one before they can race.
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The other less catastrophic issue is that if young horses (or indeed older horses in their first preps) are trained primarily on AWTs then raced or galloped on firmish grass tracks, 90% of them will go shin sore.