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It also shows that sports turnover is now roughly double racing turnover.

Don't quite get your point here. If stakes are stagnant, that's the same whether horses are leased or owned and in the former case for both lessors and lessees isn't it?

Oh I thought it was interesting in terms of the YOY numbers post the online monopoly legislation. Racing turnover consistent with what I posted previously ~13% but sports well up at 30%.

Wouldn't think it would matter much to those would it? They have to win to pay their way don't they? Doesn't matter a bit what the stakes are if they don't win any.

True. Unless we get lucky, that will end it.

Does to most of us. There's no change in stakes for any races in industry, feature or premier meetings through the grades, mdn to open, nor likely to be.

One is three with 2 more to come and possibly a reduction from there. So yes, very much so. Meanwhile owner costs, training fees, freight, farriers, vets, feed etc have all increased 15-20%.

I don't know. Pam might but you'd probably be best to ask Tim. He's pretty approachable and straight up.

You said he had been doing it for years. I asked where did that happen. You haven't answered that.

That's my first post. What the hell is unclear about that? I since answered the question myself from other enquiries and posted that here.

But there haven't been any significant stakes increases since the 23/24 season, nor are any projected for the next couple of years. That's pretty stagnant in my book. Have you been asleep under a tree?

Btw, off topic I know, but I've been to the races numerous times in the last couple of years when CW was there and I can't say I ever saw him in the raceday tie-ups. When did that allegedly happen? If it did, then club security and the stipes need a kick up the arse.

Nobody except a licence holder can enter the tie-ups on a raceday. That's an entirely different matter to entering leased commercial premises. Owners can enter those by invitation from the tenant. I'm still not sure what your point is. You are the one talking in riddles.

I'm not familiar with the law in HK, but I'd certainly not think they could without notice and/or consent of the tenant. Regardless, this is NZ, not HK.

So, what is your point? I don't think I get it.

So, if I own and lease a property that is say a bar, do you think I should have to have a liquor licence to do so, or the right to enter the premises uninvited and unannounced without the consent of the tenant? It's unconscionable behaviour, probably illegal and certainly beyond the realms of common decency.

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Yes.

Well that post is certainly not accurate. As @Chief Stipe points out, those aren't operating losses, but accounting valuation write downs and I'm not clear what the $100m guarantee they are talking about is. That has already been paid if it's the additional payment due to the online monopoly legislation. I can't really see why Entain would want to exit either market though as mentioned anything could happen. As also mentioned any such transaction is dependent on financial and regulatory conditions being met and we don't really know what is contracted in that regard wrt the NZ situation and I can see why Betr would be interested in exploring the possibility.

Yes. Multiple leased premises apparently.

Yes. Residential tenancy law requires 48 hours written notice with the tenant or representative having the right to be present.

Not a great betting race to me but Daylight Robbery as a 10% chance looks the value if I have a bet.