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Tony, would you mind putting up the business case for how an AWT at Awapuni will improve the sustainability for CD racing please?

I don't know either. Tony, Darryl would be the man to call to answer your questions since he is the course manager. The drainage is a lot better than most courses but when the water table is high which is rare, It doesn't drain and yes that has a tidal aspect. The training tracks also need work. I don't think a mil can fix that anymore than 10mil can fix Awapuni or that either will make any difference to the success of CD racing. The trial cancellations imo have not been because the track was unsafe but that the club needed to preserve and maintain the surface especially given that the course proper is used by trainers for gallops which is why trials are generally run with cones to preserve the outside strip for that while the rest recovers. As far as I am aware the FRC has taken up every offer of assistance from NZTR. That's why they have new plastic running rail, their own modern gates for trials and a refurbished stand and have accepted their position as a training and trial facility. What else do you think the club could have done?

Anyone know why?

Pitty likes that track fast JB. It's about the only way it holds together. Bugger the horses.

If the AWT surfaces are as good and safe as they are cracked up to be why would you have higher injury/fatality rates on them for jumps races?

Can they not run jumping events on the AWT?

Nope.

Yes. That's what I mean. Are they over the budget that relied on huge amounts of borrowing and government bailouts or what?

What exactly is above budget and above what budget? Net revenue is up I take it but up on what?

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I don't see any increase in revenue from the AWT wrt to the race meetings. Could be worse due to punter suspicion. So, revenue will have to come from owners and trainers paying more won't it? But again, where is the analysis on this? Can someone post it please? Pitty?

You can say that again!

So where is the gap between the accounts and the arrears list? Does the arrears list only include the "doubtful debts"?

Where's the analysis or business case and analysis to support that argument? Please post itt here.

I don't know. Where did you see that? I thought they didn't have any money or assets and are limited by that in putting on extra races or racedays from what I heard yesterday.

Why would they build a brand new full width grass track rather than fix the existing one? I'm not clear what NZTR has to do with it other than supporting the allocation of race (and trial) dates? As far as the CJC is concerned, how come detailed plans have not been circulated to members? After all they could veto the project and expenditure at a GM.

Agree but where the hell is the business case? Surely if a sound one were put in front of stakeholders, most would support them?

I've seen and ridden on both. I'd be keen on either here if they were financially justifiable. Technology has no doubt improved but I'm skeptical about the kick back claims. That's not what is being reported from Oz. It is critical that the surface is appropriately adjusted and maintained for the climatic conditions of the installation.

On the Tapeta topic from the same article: Polytrack is the most popular choice of surfaces for all weather tracks in the UK. Most trainers prefer Polytrack over everything else because it is the fairest surface for horses to race on. It’s a fast surface, with little jar and basically no kickback. Horses can enjoy their racing and because it quickly regains it’s shape after being racing on that means there’s less stress on tendons. Tapeta is very similar to Polytrack. There’s almost no kickback and they say that it’s more versatile than Polytrack. It’s a very fair surface to race, and would be quite similar to Good on a turf track – as similar as all weather could be anyway!

I've worked for Michael and am sure he would have been happy to discuss the Tapeta option for here. Hopefully that was done in the due diligence on this.

Doubt they'll be back for quite some time.

You'd assume that would have happened at some stage during the day, perhaps after some rehydration?

Interesting this has finally resurfaced despite no reply from BS when I requested it a few months back. https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/ARREARS LIST - 23 SEPTEMBER 2020.pdf

It's just arse backwards process wise. The Members' Council appoints and performance manages the NZTR board. Then you have the NZTR board effectively declaring the election of the Members' Council members that appoint them. The constitution is clear that only the AGM can do that. That's aside from the fact that the notice is dated a month before the nominations closed!