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Could be wrong but.... Alabama Lass & Sky Bird pull up lame, Lady Shenandoah was never a good thing from the draw, despite mugs listening to the cunning bookies. Oillie reviews Moonee Valley and the weekends group races. A great watch! https://www.racing.com/videos/2025-09-28/the-verdict--280925

Pulled up lame didn't she?

Feb 1

Bridget out for 6 weeks.

Stipendiary stewards provided an update on all riders and horses which saw May (pelvis), Grylls (shoulder/arm) and Taplin (wrist) transferred to hospital for further observation and treatment whilst Atchamah (possible concussion) and Murray were cleared of any serious injury. All horses came through the incident relatively unscathed with just bumps, bruises and scrapes reported. Stipendiary stewards met with the remaining jockeys on-course and it was agreed that the final two races on the day would be abandoned.

Not exactly. They certainly provide it at a large financial loss for a shot at whatever prize money the customers (punters) provide and whatever other benefits they consider they gain from their participation.

Did she say that the lack of closure was pathological itself and due to the early training, or that the intense training prior to closure could cause pathology, e.g. back strain?

I've no idea. Do you know? There are numerous people who do that but I don't really see how that relates to the thread topic.

I don't see the connection between rules for killing stock for human consumption and euthanising horses if that's what you are talking about.

I don't see the point you are making. What is the basis that you think MPI should be intervening on?

On what basis?

I'm sure Colin can take it and probably not lying down, especially when it's evidently from a no name or identity character like that who seems to be as much or more of an arch conspiracist than Wightman. Good entertainment though

True but a couple of people with horses in work there that I was talking to are finding it a tad expensive.

Do you think that has helped if that survey were run again today? I'd suspect it would be worse.

The course proper has, hasn't it and for jumpouts, trials etc.?

Well what do you think he means then when he asks NZTR to take a different course from the current one?

In the headpost. He says that following the APC course is meaning the downgrading of these races and asks that NZTR follow a different course doesn't he?

This is just another naive comment by another whale wanting to sustain black type racing which only really benefits breeders, sales companies and catalogue pages. Similar to adding stake money to them to maintain their status as @Chief Stipe says. Doesn't help racing one bit. Be better to get rid of them altogether. Why he would think breaking away from the APC and giving them black type labels ourselves could help, beggars belief when they still won't appear as black type on catalogue pages or those delivered by Arion pedigrees anyway, and it would surely do nothing for the credibility of NZ racing or its quality. That has already been diluted enough by the high stake restricted entry slot races.

❌ Races Not Recognised by the APC A controversial list of 12–17 races in New South Wales were unilaterally upgraded by Racing Australia and Racing NSW, but rejected by the APC due to procedural violations and lack of a functioning national pattern committee. These include: [A Dozen NS...BloodHorse], [Asian Raci...ist of ...], [Races not...ype status], [No interna...rty dozen’] The Invitation (1400m) – proposed Group 2 Five Diamonds Prelude (1500m) – proposed Listed Silver Eagle (1300m) – proposed Group 3 Reginald Allen Quality (1400m) – proposed Group 3 St Leger Stakes (2600m) – proposed Group 3 Tapp-Craig (1400m) – proposed Listed These races are not recognised internationally, meaning they do not appear in pedigree catalogues like Arion or The Blue Book, and horses winning them do not earn official black-type status. The APC has made it clear that any upgrades must be submitted and approved at its annual meeting. Racing Australia has been urged to reinstate a proper pattern committee to align with international standards.

Agree. Has he not read or understood the APC guidelines and aopproval process?

That's a fair question but I'd say not too many are doing more than @Special Agent

It could have been worse if he had an interviewer that followed up on his responses rather than following the script?

Almost a year ago. Female problems. Anyway, congrats to John, Sandra, Colin, Phil, the other owners and the team that does all the work with such care and passion.