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Happening I think but that's an Entain expense and doesn't really affect returns to racing except as it might affect service to punters?

Hard to know really isn't it? Handicapping, programming, stakes allocation, track safety (especially the polys), get the whip rules actually changed to match international standards? What do you think is most important? Probably nothing that's mentioned in the head post article?

Shouldn't be necessary. As I said, I'm confident that appropriate action has been taken - and continues to be taken - at the highest levels to remedy the situation. I expect evidence of that to emerge shortly.

Certainly won't be. If there has to be one, it needs to be at the general public and political level, not conducted in racing media.

Rest assured they have them!

I'm not aiming to bag any particular jockeys, rather those who are responsible for enforcing a rule that they brought in 6 months ago. There's no crusade yet. At the moment I'm hopeful, if not confident that action will be taken. However, if that doesn't happen, rest assured, there will be a crusade..

Are you really still living in an era that was 1/2 a century ago?

Of course it's a vote-counting decision. This is a democracy and 70% of the population support it. You can't be a politician and ignore the wishes of the majority of your electorate.

Why would they do that when after 5 years, they've finished paying for the business and thereafter get to keep their full 50% share of the profits. The question/suggestion is quite illogical?

Opposite I think. Keeps their head down. Head up with a shadow roll they couldn't see where they were going!

If you bothered to look, you'd see I corrected that to 5.7m.

What I am advocating is aimed particularly to avoid the racing industry having the same outcome that GR is facing, that includes things like track safety measures which I thought you supported and are still not being addressed as they should imo.

That's true but the 4% duty here has just been phased out. A change of political environment could possibly restore it at pretty much the stroke of a pen. We still have the 1% problem gambling levy.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/36324958/british-racing-strike-carlisle-uttoxeter-staffordshire-kempton/ https://bitofayarn.com British racing to go on strike for first time in protest at betting tax rise www.thesun.co.uk BRITISH racing is set to go on strike for the first time EVER next month. September 10 events at Carlisle, Uttoxeter, Kempton and Lingfield Park are all set to be scrapped. Four events are set to be scrapped next month, including at LingfieldCredit: Getty The Treasury have proposed to up taxes paid by bookies on racing profits from 15 to 21 per cent - in line with online casinos. According to The Times, the British Horseracing Authority (BHA) have organised the strike, which could cost the industry around £700,000, in opposition to the proposal. Each meeting will be rescheduled at a later date. The BHA claim that the proposed change would cost the sector £66million every year and put up to 2,752 people out of a job While they also warned that it would send the sport into "irreversible decline". The proposed strike is set to take place just one day before the start of the St Leger Festival at Doncaster. This means that the issue will be placed at the forefront of the sport by the time the prestigious event, which prime minister Keir Starmer attended alongside his wife last year, comes around. Chief executive of the BHA Brant Dunshea said: "This latest tax bombshell from the Government, if followed through, poses one of the gravest risks to horseracing the sport has ever seen. “The horseracing industry is already in a precarious financial position, and the latest research provides a much more catastrophic forecast than we first thought. “We’re talking thousands of jobs at risk across the supply chain, severely impacted towns and communities, and the irreversible decline of the country’s second most popular sport.” Owners remove £195,000 Grade 2-winning horse from Gordon Elliott’s yard with his blessing and send to his protege It's claimed that bookies would likely look to increase their prices should the proposal come into effect - https://bitofayarn.com while two thirds of punters claim that a tax increase would push people towards the gambling black market. It's also said that bookmakers would cut their advertising and market budgets - while turning their focus towards online gaming. David Menuisier, a trainer at Coombelands Racing Stables, recently told The Sun: “Racing is much more than just a sport in this country. “It brings fun and excitement to millions and is a major local employer, particularly here in West Sussex as we prepare for another fantastic year at Goodwood.”

I take from your comments that you now think that advocating for horse and human welfare in racing is anti-racing?

And a couple of strides later on the second horse.

Maybe hadn't quite woken up or needed another coffee when watching the first?

If you have evidence to the contrary, why not send him that and also post it here to educate the rest of us?

I'm sure Marco already has it.

What poll are you talking about that I did? If you are talking about the cafe whip use one, it probably mostly includes responses from industry folk doesn't it? Owners, trainers, punters and administrators? Maybe a few bots you think?

It looks like the bulk of racing people support that including the leadership. Just needs some action now.

I certainly won't and I've already commented that it likely won't get much traction as you point out with the massive 60 signatures to date.

The sad thing is that as with GRNZ, NZTR and the RIB don't recognise the threat, let alone show an inclination to do anything about it. anything about it.