Chief Stipe Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Well @Archie Butterfly got that wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gammalite Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Thank goodness for that. Don't think any sportsperson anywhere (or supporters of those sports) would want an active participant 'Disqualified' from participating for a period, because someone verbally assaulted them while they were out celebrating a winner/win with friends and family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Gammalite said: Thank goodness for that. Don't think any sportsperson anywhere (or supporters of those sports) would want an active participant 'Disqualified' from participating for a period, because someone verbally assaulted them while they were out celebrating a winner/win with friends and family. Pretty sure that verbal assault isn't as bad as physical assault Gamma (especially a cheap shot) But no doubt you'll disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 16 hours ago, Michael said: Pretty sure that verbal assault isn't as bad as physical assault Gamma (especially a cheap shot) But no doubt you'll disagree A physical assault should be a Police Matter. It is very serious. But is only pursued if one of the parties decides to continue with pressing charges . If No Charges are laid after an incident , then Why should the guy (or anyone) lose their license ? The 12 months thing was just horse-shit , and 4 months for young kiwi lad Jack Trainor ?? what joke . just standing up for his mates. I imagine the fines, from the trotting body , are/were for bringing the sport into 'disrepute' or similar money grab words , for squabbling in a public place . (They should of confronted in a more private location would of been Way smarter IMO ) Feel free to disagree if you want 😄 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: A physical assault should be a Police Matter. It is very serious. But is only pursued if one of the parties decides to continue with pressing charges . If No Charges are laid after an incident , then Why should the guy (or anyone) lose their license ? The 12 months thing was just horse-shit , and 4 months for young kiwi lad Jack Trainor ?? what joke . just standing up for his mates. I imagine the fines, from the trotting body , are/were for bringing the sport into 'disrepute' or similar money grab words , for squabbling in a public place . (They should of confronted in a more private location would of been Way smarter IMO ) Feel free to disagree if you want 😄 . I never said that anyone should lose their licence Gamma so why would I disagree with you? However your post seems to allege that Mr Grimson was initially DQ'ed because someone verbally assaulted him...." would want an active participant 'Disqualified' from participating for a period, because someone verbally assaulted them while they were out celebrating a winner/win with friends and family" I'm pretty sure his initial DQ (and now fine)isn't because someone said nasty words to him, it was because he hit someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Michael said: I'm pretty sure his initial DQ (and now fine)isn't because someone said nasty words to him, it was because he hit someone Someone who was being extremely provocative to the extent they had to be held by a security guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Michael said: However your post seems to allege that Mr Grimson was initially DQ'ed because someone verbally assaulted him...." would want an active participant 'Disqualified' from participating for a period That would be the initial FIRST action needed that has caused a set of reactions that have led to the Fines. Someone mouthing off Started It ? yes? and that would be a sad state of affairs to have people disqualified for being Mouthy ? should of just joined the forum ? 😆😂 Did young Kiwi Jack Trainor retaliate with words or fists ?? his fine is 'smaller' it seems . Maybe not connecting well enough with words and air-swings lol..... ? where's the commentator when you need him ???? good money to be made by the club here . " And there goes the right hook ! " " a great attack coming in 3 wide" " The young lad is kicking back strongly on the inside too " that'll cost him . "But he's as game as they come " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Someone who was being extremely provocative to the extent they had to be held by a security guard. And hit while being held by the Security guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Michael said: And hit while being held by the Security guard Yeah well as you know Michael sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yeah well as you know Michael sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut. Something you should learn perhaps Then your site might get more traffic, and more repeat traffic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Michael said: Something you should learn perhaps Then your site might get more traffic, and more repeat traffic No censorship here Michael nor do I complain about any minor slight directed at me. On any other site you'd have been given the flick pronto. Sadly it is an indictment of the tribalism rampant in society. With the incessant desire to cancel anyone with an alternative opinion. "He doesn't agree with me.....ban him!" Back on topic I guess you consider it OK for an official to publicly bad mouth a trainer without any evidence? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: No censorship here Michael nor do I complain about any minor slight directed at me. On any other site you'd have been given the flick pronto. Sadly it is an indictment of the tribalism rampant in society. With the incessant desire to cancel anyone with an alternative opinion. "He doesn't agree with me.....ban him!" Back on topic I guess you consider it OK for an official to publicly bad mouth a trainer without any evidence? No, why would I think that's ok? You seem to be really, really thick this week Let me put it this way, if I king hit someone in the Pub and then get dragged into Court and my defence was "but Chief Stipe said it's ok because he was saying nasty things about me" what do you think my chances are of getting off? Exactly Try to read what posters are saying, not what you assume that they're saying and maybe you wouldn't be such a dickhead Edited September 22, 2023 by Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, Michael said: No, why would I think that's ok? You seem to be really, really thick this week Let me put it this way, if I king hit someone in the Pub and then get dragged into Court and my defence was "but Chief Stipe said it's ok because he was saying nasty things about me" what do you think my chances are of getting off? Exactly Try to read what posters are saying, not what you assume that they're saying and maybe you wouldn't be such a dickhead Michael, enjoy your postings you are such an educated poster lol! think you should have some respect for Chief, who gives everyone an opportunity to post basically what they want to say! You dont have to agree with him, and to be calling him a Dickhead, is not very becoming of you! Personally never met Chief, but his postings always seem well thought out and researched! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Brodie said: Michael, enjoy your postings you are such an educated poster lol! think you should have some respect for Chief, who gives everyone an opportunity to post basically what they want to say! You dont have to agree with him, and to be calling him a Dickhead, is not very becoming of you! Personally never met Chief, but his postings always seem well thought out and researched! I thought you couldn't read my posts Brodie? Caught out lying again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 21 hours ago, Michael said: No, why would I think that's ok? You seem to be really, really thick this week Let me put it this way, if I king hit someone in the Pub and then get dragged into Court and my defence was "but Chief Stipe said it's ok because he was saying nasty things about me" what do you think my chances are of getting off? Exactly Try to read what posters are saying, not what you assume that they're saying and maybe you wouldn't be such a dickhead Perhaps some posters should be less equivocal in their postings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Michael said: I thought you couldn't read my posts Brodie? Caught out lying again? Does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, Michael said: I thought you couldn't read my posts Brodie? Caught out lying again? Probably had the Mikie option blocked Michael , and the Michael option still open for some group discussion. there's no lying mate. just people's opinions. (always the chance of BS ) 😄 My guess is the security guard was dragging the aggressor away , off , or trying to separate the duelling 'banjo's' ,, and a couple of swings were still coming in . Did it say if anyone needed Medical Treatment ?? If so, then you could press charges of assault I imagine? If Not, and there's No clear evidence of who said what , or who swung at who , and who's Not playing 😆, then you just go home and get on with it (life) the next day , don't ya ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael said: I thought you couldn't read my posts Brodie? Caught out lying again? Lol I unblocked you Mike, couldnt do without your knowledge! You know you are a role model to many!😂 Edited September 23, 2023 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Mike, couldnt do without your knowledge! You know you are a role model to many!😂 mike not a bad trainer to great knowledge . should go into partnership with that stable that's getting beat up in group1 races lately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 23/09/2023 at 1:13 PM, Michael said: I thought you couldn't read my posts Brodie? Caught out lying again? The Whale might have tipped him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) On 23/09/2023 at 4:15 PM, Brodie said: You know you are a role model to many!😂 No Fission gelding and Phil Williamsons first winner as a trainer. Edited September 25, 2023 by Rangatira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 4:15 PM, Brodie said: You know you are a role model to many!😂 Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 2:16 PM, Gammalite said: My guess is the security guard was dragging the aggressor away , off , or trying to separate the duelling 'banjo's' ,, and a couple of swings were still coming in . Well, according to the Inquiry transcript your guess would be wrong Gamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Michael said: Well, according to the Inquiry transcript your guess would be wrong Gamma But what did the Appeal decision say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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