Happy Sunrise Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 Is he a false favourite for the Cup after his two runs back? Has he not come back as good this time around or is he just getting his fitness back? His lack of a dominant performance has really opened up the Cup for anyone. Maybe the horse with the best run will win the cup.... Quote
Counter Punch Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 I'm going to go with getting his fitness back. Mark was certainly expecting him to need that run yesterday and almost predicted that he would blow out late. I would imagine we will see a very different version of him come next Monday at Ashburton... Could you back him as favourite at the moment? Absolutely not IMO. Quote
Newmarket Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Battled on ok yesterday, its run far better than Star Galleria. Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted October 15, 2018 Author Posted October 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, Counter Punch said: I would imagine we will see a very different version of him come next Monday at Ashburton... Would he go to Kaikoura too? Quote
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Quite possibly looking at the weakest cup field we have seen in years, the Aussie raiders might look our cup class horses look silly if they come over. Quote
Counter Punch Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Would he go to Kaikoura too? Think they've ruled Kaikoura out with him. Cruz Bromac headed for there. Quote
globederby12 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Counter Punch said: I'm going to go with getting his fitness back. Same here. Favorite no, but right him off at your peril. Still a toss up between him and Chicago Bull come Cup time for me. Class acts at their best. Quote
Kakama Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Aussies look to be a big chance this year. No doubt we will know more after ashburton stakes. What about other main pace event on day, what a great field Quote
Newmarket Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Kakama said: Aussies look to be a big chance this year. No doubt we will know more after ashburton stakes. What about other main pace event on day, what a great field Too true, i bet this race is run quicker than flying stakes Quote
the galah Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 From my observations the all star team does not currently have the same degree of invincibility that it has had in the past. It has been noticeable in the last couple of months that their runners are more vulnerable than normal, if doing work in the running. They still are no doubt the most feared stable in nz ,but unless something changes again it looks like they cant be driven to run their opposition into the ground like they had previously. So in my opinion it makes for a cup field where a case could be put forward for many runners. 2 Quote
Richie Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 The All Stars horses build ups to the cup are Generally a long affair. The Machete and the likes will peak on Cup day much like Adore Me did in 2014 and Lazarus in 2016. Average lead up form from Adore Me but had the polish on.I know that Mark thinks Ultimate Machete the best of theirs and yet their other horses have won 3 of the lead up races. Will see a different horse tomorrow. At this stage I won't be backing anything else in the cup Quote
globederby12 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Richie said: The All Stars horses build ups to the cup are Generally a long affair. The Machete and the likes will peak on Cup day much like Adore Me did in 2014 and Lazarus in 2016. Average lead up form from Adore Me but had the polish on.I know that Mark thinks Ultimate Machete the best of theirs and yet their other horses have won 3 of the lead up races. Will see a different horse tomorrow. At this stage I won't be backing anything else in the cup Yep. Right on the button Richie.Class act at best . If I can get $1.50 or better tomorrow , today's winnings are on the nose. Quote
globederby12 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Yep. Right on the button Richie.Class act at best . If I can get $1.50 or better tomorrow , today's winnings are on the nose. Forget that, on at $3.70 FF. Should be a good ride. 1 Quote
Richie Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Forget that, on at $3.70 FF. Should be a good ride. Yep I got on this morning. Also Turn it Up in race 10.Bigwraps from stable Good chance of an All Stars trifecta or even F4 in race 10.With 6 horses in. Quote
Newmarket Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Forget that, on at $3.70 FF. Should be a good ride. Is that price for ultimate machete? Quote
Flagship uberalles Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 I see Natalie and Mark have put Tim Williams on dream about me tomorrow, .... although hes driving out of his skin at the moment, that screams don't touch it tomorrow....for a win anyway 1 Quote
globederby12 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Is that price for ultimate machete? Yep. Quote
Kane21 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: I see Natalie and Mark have put Tim Williams on dream about me tomorrow, .... although hes driving out of his skin at the moment, that screams don't touch it tomorrow....for a win anyway I found that strange that they put T Williams on tomorrow as he has driven it its last 4 starts for 2 wins a second and a third Maybe no one else will drive her. Quote
Kane21 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: I see Natalie and Mark have put Tim Williams on dream about me tomorrow, .... although hes driving out of his skin at the moment, that screams don't touch it tomorrow....for a win anyway Probably one of the silliest posts written. Quote
Flagship uberalles Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Kane21 said: Probably one of the silliest posts written. What ever Lee......its all set up for Eamon tomorrow Quote
Kane21 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 They actually put him on the last 4 starts I'm surprised you didn't notice that. Quote
Newmarket Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, globederby12 said: Yep. Good luck, i would want more than $3-70 for him in that race. I am sure he will pay more on the tote, dont think it will start fav, star galleria will i reckon. For mine, i just dont think he is going as good as i thought he would. We will know monday arvo. I am sure a purdon runner will win, leaning to eamon mcguire 1 Quote
Flagship uberalles Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kane21 said: They actually put him on the last 4 starts I'm surprised you didn't notice that. I did notice, but they put him on 3rd string for the big money Edited October 21, 2018 by Flagship uberalles Quote
Kane21 Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 No, you are right most third string drivers win $948858 every season. Quote
Flagship uberalles Posted October 21, 2018 Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kane21 said: No, you are right most third string drivers win $948858 every season. I guess he gets the choice of drives for all major races Lee? Quote
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