Chief Stipe Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Alot can change in 2 weeks...acceptances ,weather,plenty of variables. Doh! Really! But what do YOU price the field at now......i.e. how do you determine what is value and what isn't? Obviously you say $4 is value and @curious would prefer $6.
curious Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: In Secrets run in the Everest was a monster...flying out wider for 4th.She has also won at Flemington.You make her a $6...chance...love to have some of that. Struggling to quantify "a monster". I'd lay her at 4.50 just for you. How much do you want. 1 1
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, curious said: Struggling to quantify "a monster". I'd lay her at 4.50 just for you. How much do you want. Not so brave afterall...$4.50 will be available for sure. As for a 'monster'..go have a look at her Everest run. The only people who think punting is guaranteed by some scientific formula....are either deluded,broke ...or both.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Doh! Really! But what do YOU price the field at now......i.e. how do you determine what is value and what isn't? Obviously you say $4 is value and @curious would prefer $6. As you see...Curious has very weak hands!😜He has Imperatriz at $1.60...and she's still $1.70 at the TAB. I'm sure he's piling it on.I say $4.00 is value compared to the Imperatriz ...quote...can't you comprehend that?😁
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: The only people who think punting is guaranteed by some scientific formula....are either deluded,broke ...or both. Who said there was any guarantees? How do YOU assess value? At what price wouldn't you back In Secret? Obviously you won't take $4.50. Punters generally go broke when they don't assess value or punt when there is no value.
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: I'm sure he's piling it on.I say $4.00 is value compared to the Imperatriz ...quote...can't you comprehend that?😁 @curious is offering you $4.50 but you won't take it. If In Secret ends up at better odds it is because the most of market will be on Imperatriz.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Who said there was any guarantees? How do YOU assess value? At what price wouldn't you back In Secret? Obviously you won't take $4.50. Punters generally go broke when they don't assess value or punt when there is no value. I've explained to you already the pros and cons re the 2 horses in discussion. I'm not asking you to agree with me. Btw who exactly did I select to beat Imperatriz in her last race,as you claim?
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: @curious is offering you $4.50 but you won't take it. If In Secret ends up at better odds it is because the most of market will be on Imperatriz. As you know ,he said it was a $6 chance...and then wilts to $4.50. I'll take $5.50.
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: As you know ,he said it was a $6 chance...and then wilts to $4.50. No he said value for him would be at $6 in his price book. You said you liked $4 - pile it on you said. @curious offers you $4.50 i.e. a premium and you turn it down. He didn't wilt at all. On 29/10/2023 at 8:42 PM, holy ravioli said: MV specialist against real talent Everest form in In Secret...@$4.00...pile it like ..brylcreem.😄
curious Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: As you know ,he said it was a $6 chance...and then wilts to $4.50. I'll take $5.50. OK. Reverse yourself. "@$4.00...pile it like ..brylcreem". No wonder you lose. I'm not going to lay a horse I rate a $6 chance at 5.50. If I can get $9 I'll back it. But I need a margin over my assessment. I've asked you for yours but you don't seem to have one.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: No he said value for him would be at $6 in his price book. You said you liked $4 - pile it on you said. @curious offers you $4.50 i.e. a premium and you turn it down. He didn't wilt at all. As someone said...the horses don't know what they're paying....you either think Imperatriz will win.....he does,I don't. Therefore he doesn't think In Secret will win. Theres no money in long priced losers. Pile it on like Brylcreem is hyperbole...look it up!
curious Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, holy ravioli said: Pile it on like Brylcreem is hyperbole...look it up! noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally Why say it then? You are full of shit.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, curious said: OK. Reverse yourself. "@$4.00...pile it like ..brylcreem". No wonder you lose. I'm not going to lay a horse I rate a $6 chance at 5.50. If I can get $9 I'll back it. But I need a margin over my assessment. I've asked you for yours but you don't seem to have one. Circular argument again.Are you playing the role of bookmaker,or going on your 'value' ,back multiple horses in the same race? $9 now...doesn't matter if its $100 if Imperatriz is a $1.60 shot homerun! "@$4.00...pile it like ..brylcreem".=hyperbole. I've no doubt you know what that is....and Brylcreem and...Old Spice!😃
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, curious said: noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally Why say it then? You are full of shit. Most people can identify it.You getting very hostile there,and it's not necessary.
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Most people can identify it.You getting very hostile there,and it's not necessary. So you are just all talk?
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Chief Stipe said: So you are just all talk? WTF??>??
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: WTF??>?? So you are not piling it on at $4 because....why? Nor $4.50 either. So at what price would you pile it on? $5.5? Which isn't far off @curious pricing it at $6.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: So you are not piling it on at $4 because....why? Nor $4.50 either. So at what price would you pile it on? $5.5? Which isn't far off @curious pricing it at $6. So what?
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, holy ravioli said: So what? So what? Just a hint - it's obvious you are not serious about anything you write. So if you can't take yourself seriously then don't expect anyone else to.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: So what? Just a hint - it's obvious you are not serious about anything you write. So if you can't take yourself seriously then don't expect anyone else to. Talk about 'physician heal thyself'!...still waiting for your evidence of who I picked to beat Imperatriz in the Manikato!🙄
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Talk about 'physician heal thyself'!...still waiting for your evidence of who I picked to beat Imperatriz in the Manikato!🙄 Who would know - your posts are an art form of obfuscation. There was four you were talking about at one stage but all with the proviso....."I'll wait until closer to the day...." You were offered $4.50 and you won't take it yet tell everyone to pile it on!
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Who would know - your posts are an art form of obfuscation. There was four you were talking about at one stage but all with the proviso....."I'll wait until closer to the day...." You were offered $4.50 and you won't take it yet tell everyone to pile it on! So you admit you were full of shit ..and I didn't pick a horse to beat Imperatriz in the Manikato.You and the bellicose Curious are birds of a feather.
Chief Stipe Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: So you admit you were full of shit ..and I didn't pick a horse to beat Imperatriz in the Manikato.You and the bellicose Curious are birds of a feather. Who'd know you scurry around the place so much you'd need to be a meerkat to keep up. As for Imperatriz you've been trying to find something to beat her before every race and when offered better odds than the TAB you scurry down the drain pipe.
holy ravioli Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Who'd know you scurry around the place so much you'd need to be a meerkat to keep up. As for Imperatriz you've been trying to find something to beat her before every race and when offered better odds than the TAB you scurry down the drain pipe. As if you know my mind.As usual you cannot back up your assertions.Someone talking 6's and even 9's....and buckles to a price easily obtained is not a compelling offer.
curious Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, holy ravioli said: As if you know my mind.As usual you cannot back up your assertions.Someone talking 6's and even 9's....and buckles to a price easily obtained is not a compelling offer. I haven't buckled. You have after saying pile it on @$4. If you knew anything about profitable punting you'd realise that I do not back or lay horses at my price assessment but at a price that allows for both margin of error and profit. As I said you are full of bs.
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