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The start of summer yesterday Dec 1st saw the Mile heats go off at Albion Park for round 1 Interdominion 2023 . right in the middle of first Summer storm as was so darn hot ๐ŸŒง๏ธ, so that put a dampener on them .

The Interdominion trotters section was absolutely Dominated by the Victorians . the state of Victoria running 80-90% of Australia's trotting races that are run in Australia each year. sometimes the whole Race-Card is for squaregaiters races only, down there.

Winners were defending Champion Just Believe (for Sugers/Tubbs) , Ollivici for Chris Lang , and Plymouth Chubb driven well by oz best driver in Cam Hart (recent Nz Cup winning driver) who ran down the NZ owned and long odds on favourite Queen Elida . the queen has been dethroned ?ย ๐Ÿ˜‹. All Vic's .

The Pacers Heats saw the 4 Favourites win easily . Swayzee for Grimson , Leap to Fame and Fame Assured for Queensland (both owned by Seymours) and the very impressive Better Eclipse for Sugars and Victoria. looped the field to sit parked and then pulled away from them sweetly late on.ย  You guys saw him in the RACE by Grins earlier in year and Messenger when 4th and 3rd. He's pretty good that bloke.ย  so are the Best 4 horses competing this year easily.

Old New Zealand horses running were placegetters Tommy Lincoln (who 3 years ago to the day was defeating Copy That and South Coast Arden in a group race at Auckland)ย  Betterzippit, Deus Ex, Spirit Of St Louis >ย  only 6th was a bit of a flop for his many Nz and Aus owners, as was also the other 'McCarthy trained'ย  one in old kiwi horseย CantFindA BetterMan also only 6th .

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It's called the Interdomion but is it really ?

Apart from Akuta who from NZ would even be worthy of a trip ?

And Akuta ain't in the same league as Swayzee.

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5 hours ago, mikeynz said:

It's called the Interdomion but is it really ?

Apart from Akuta who from NZ would even be worthy of a trip ?

And Akuta ain't in the same league as Swayzee.

I think you're right Mikey. The Interdominion is really meant to be Nz v Australia trained runners in competition . which traditionally saw some of the greatest clashes of Superstars ever seen.ย 

so the 'Nz Trotting Cup' and 'The Race by Grins'ย  the past Couple of years , have been the true Interdominions of recent times.

Swayzee taking the choc's over Akuta this year for an Australia win in the Cup .

and Copy That seeing off All the Aus raiders (and Akuta) in last season's Nz Cup and the Cambridge The Race this year.ย  including Aussies Majestic Cruiser, Better Eclipse and RockNRoll Doo

so it looks like the Interdominion score isย  2 - 1ย  to New-Zealand past 3 proper clashes.ย ย 

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14 hours ago, Blackie said:

Did Turn It Up go round?

He did and went nicely . TURN IT UP a true gutsy trier.

here's His race Heat for Tuesday night over 2100m. From the Pole !! he'll go close .

Grimson lurking out very wide with a runner there might be fueled up and give it to em lol...

1 31253 TURN IT UPย  Shane Graham ย  Shane Graham ย  ย  FR1 ย 
2 6s129 UPTOWN BEACHGIRLย  Donny Smith ย  SCRATCHED ย  ย  SCR ย 
3 59026 TIMS A TROOPERย  Grant Dixon ย  Grant Dixon ย  ย  FR2 ย 
4 46s22 MANILA PLAYBOYย  Shane Fraser ย  Angus Garrard (C) ย  ย  FR3 ย 
5 64703 KANENA PROVLIMAย  KerryAnn Morris ย  Robert Morris ย  ย  FR4 ย 
6 s6905 I CAST NO SHADOW NZย  Darrel Graham ย  Adam Sanderson ย 

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FR5 ย 
7 77272 NERANO NZย  Jason Grimson ย  Cameron Hart ย  ย  FR6 ย 
ย ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ย 
8 61338 BLACKSADANCEย  Chantal Turpin ย  Pete McMullen ย  ย  SR1 ย 
9 s0454 TARGARYEN NZย  Jack Butler ย  Chris Geary ย  ย  SR2 ย 
10 s2313 CAPTAIN SHUFFLESย  Ben Crosby ย  Nathan Dawson ย  ย  SR3 ย 
11 10111 BETTER ECLIPSEย  Jess Tubbs ย  Greg Sugars ย  ย  SR4 ย 
12 15259 HELLUVA NZย  John Justice ย  John Justice ย  ย  SR5
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2nd night is underway . Finally someone beats Swayzee . in 10 starts with Grimson. Won't be the last time either. A local leads all the way and beats him easy .. excellent stuff.ย another first round winner in Future Assured a well beaten battling 4th.

LEAP TO FAME has the Interdom at his mercy ?? surely.... lol....ย 

1st 2 ย  SPEAK THE TRUTH ADAM SANDERSON FT - - 4.70 1.70
2nd 1 ย  PETES SAID SO ROBERT MORRIS FT ย  - ย  1.30
3rd 8 ย  SWAYZEE CAMERON HART BL ย  - ย  1.40
4th 11 ย  FUTURE ASSURED TRENT DAWSON BL ย  ย  ย 
Posted
On 12/3/2023 at 6:53 PM, Gammalite said:
On 12/3/2023 at 4:09 AM, Blackie said:

Did Turn It Up go round?

He did and went nicely . TURN IT UP a true gutsy trier.

here's His race Heat for Tuesday night over 2100m. From the Pole !! he'll go close .

Grimson lurking out very wide with a runner there might be fueled up and give it to em lol...

Fu''en Grimson . Cam Hart drives Narano to Win from the Outside Barrier no less.

Total BS . what did that horse do in NZ ? winning nothing I spose ?? . Grimson has it beating 2 of the very best horses going around in Australia of course. what crapย ๐Ÿ˜‹

1st 7 ย  NERANO CAMERON HART FT - - 4.90 1.80
2nd 11 ย  BETTER ECLIPSE GREG SUGARS BL ย  - ย  1.20
3rd 1 ย  TURN IT UP SHANE GRAHAM FT ย  - ย  1.30
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And my mate wins. Grant giving a GRAND FINAL Preview with LEAP TO FAME.

my 2nd favourite horse SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS roaring up the fence to only just be denied .

The leader from NSW in the centre , Near 'shit itself' , as the 2 Champs came at him on either side and it just wanted to die , or run off , or anything to escape that menaceย ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

they were 5 lengths of 4th though so a meritorious run . Go Spirit !!! Go Larry !!! FO Grimson !! lol.๐Ÿ˜ย  old kiwi horse Betterzippit showing his 'Manawatu form' in that Heat..๐Ÿ˜‰.

(Larry is the common name of Leap to Fame)ย 

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Gamma, from a punting perspective, just a total waste of time and energy!

The dividends are just not worth any effort as they are pretty pathetic.

Racing is ok but without anything on them, hard t9 het that enthused and to call it an Interdominion is questionable lol?

Bring on Geraldine and Xmas racing when Brodie always does very well!

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26 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Gamma, from a punting perspective, just a total waste of time and energy!

The dividends are just not worth any effort as they are pretty pathetic.

Racing is ok but without anything on them, hard t9 het that enthused and to call it an Interdominion is questionable lol?

Bring on Geraldine and Xmas racing when Brodie always does very well!

you're right. but it's just an interest. I don't bet on the cricket or footy either but follow it with gusto lol. Hope you're ready to win the Group 1 Comp day Sunday at Addington ?

you're good odds at 8-1ย ๐Ÿ˜‹๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘ย Blackie is 10's and driftingย ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Yes from a punting perspective the 5 Interdominion heats run tonight,ย  even returned small Trifecta's as it panned out.

they paid $41 , $27, $4.40 , $165 (quinella was just $3 in that one), and $17.ย 

so looks like the 14 out 15 of the most favoured runners ran the placesย  !!!. Good true to form stuff. good honest trotting blokes ? great to see.

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2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Fu''en Grimson . Cam Hart drives Narano to Win from the Outside Barrier no less.

Total BS . what did that horse do in NZ ? winning nothing I spose ?? . Grimson has it beating 2 of the very best horses going around in Australia of course. what crapย ๐Ÿ˜‹

1st 7 ย  NERANO CAMERON HART FT - - 4.90 1.80
2nd 11 ย  BETTER ECLIPSE GREG SUGARS BL ย  - ย  1.20
3rd 1 ย  TURN IT UP SHANE GRAHAM FT ย  - ย  1.30

I just watched that replay. Nerano impressive. A possible winner of final if he draws well and leap to fame doesn't.same owner as swayzee.ย 

I used to follow him over here. I backed him when he won his first race at manawatu,although he was one of those horses that seemed to hang a bit and do just enough to make you think he could win next time with the right run. One of those horses you keep following thinking he had speed,but that you seemed to end up chasing your money on.

i just looked it up and see he had 2 wins from 16 starts,1 at manawatu and 1 at addington. I have followed him a little in australia because of that,but haven't taken much notice of who trained him. Certainly looks like he has gone to a higher level recently,especially this week. Has grimson always been his australian trainer?

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30 minutes ago, the galah said:

Has grimson always been his australian trainer?

No . he started out down the border area (riverina) nsw-vic.

then Grimson picked him up last Winter. doesn't seem to of ever had a 'plunge punt' on it like a lot of Grimson horses ?.. like they have with Hi MyNameIsJeffย and several others.ย 

James Rattray had NERANO for 4 starts late last year and ran 1.50.7 winning a year ago.ย 

so am surprised Grimson hasn't won more with it based on that. that was just his 2nd win in the Interdominion heat , (with 8 placings)ย  from 15 Grimson race starts.ย 

but going on what Grimson has achieved the Past 2 Interdominion Grand Finals , wouldn't put it past him to upset LEAP TO FAME .ย 

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The second night Trotters section of heats produced 2 more Victoria quinellas.

The 'Queen' trained by ex-pat kiwi Brent Lilley and still owned by a host of Nz owners was once again nailed right on the line , this time by Lang's OLLIVICI .ย 

and the 2nd Trotters heat saw the defending Champion (who clean swept heats and Final last December) in the great JUST BELIEVE , for Tubbs and Sugars , stride to Victory after sitting parked out,ย  over fellow Vic's in Plymouth Chubb and Mafusa Metro.

A real disappointment was former Interdominion winner in MAORI LAW , for ex-pat kiwis Richard Brosnan and with Anthony Butt steering ( in what appears to be his only drive this carnival) .. just a shadow of his former self from 2 years ago and finished down the track at 100-1 behind Ollivici.ย 

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The Final round Saturday over 2680m should see Grimson through with Nerano and Swayzzzzee easy enough with both horses drawn one in their heats.

The other 10 spots for his opponents still to be settled with LEAP TO FAME and BETTER ECLIPSE almost certainly through from the other 2 heats this week , along with PETE's SAID SO and Classy Washington and Manila Playboy also close to getting in.

This Heat will decide the Fate of a few .

very talented local 'Speak The Truth' needs to place , as does 'Our Money Rocks'............

and with the Former good New Zealand pacers 'Spirit of St Louis' and 'Hot and Treacherous' also on the CUSP of Grand Final Selection . This Heat might see some Fireworksย ๐ŸŽ‡

1 72721 NERANO NZย  Jason Grimson ย  Cameron Hart ย  NR114 B2ย  FR1 ย 
2 43588 NORTHVIEW HUSTLER NZย  Al Barnes ย  Brendan Barnes ย  NR103 B3ย  FR2 ย 
3 15s71 SPEAK THE TRUTHย  Shannon Price ย  Adam Sanderson ย  NR115 B4ย  FR3 ย 
4 34080 KOSIMOย  Darrel Graham ย  SCRATCHED ย  NR103 B4ย  SCR ย 
5 12533 TURN IT UPย  Shane Graham ย  Shane Graham ย  NR120 B1ย  FR4 ย 
6 87070 MIRACLE MOOSE NZย  Grant Dixon ย  Trista Dixon ย  NR100 B2ย  FR5 ย 
7 17462 SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS NZย  Belinda McCarthy ย  Luke McCarthy ย  NR120 B1ย  FR6 ย 
ย ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ย 
8 34599 LITTLE BLISSย  Troy Williams ย  Robert Morris ย  NR87 B2ย  SR1 ย 
9 13384 BLACKSADANCEย  Chantal Turpin ย  Pete McMullen ย  NR118 B1ย  SR2 ย 
10 31253 OUR MONEY ROCKSย  David Thorn ย  Chris Geary ย  NR115 B1ย  SR3 ย 
11 11614 FUTURE ASSUREDย  Trent Dawson ย  Trent Dawson ย  NR120 B1ย  SR4 ย 
12 25045 HOT AND TREACHEROUS NZย  Jack Butler ย  Chris Alford ย  NR120 B1ย  SR5
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The above Heat went to NERANO and Grimson/Hart so they have 2 horses in the Grand Final next week . Young ex-pat kiwi Jack Trainor will drive Nerano in the GF. him being part of the Grimson machine and all .

Kiwi horse Hot and Treacherous missed out getting in the Final . that heat above was just too hard.

Making the Trotting Final were old North Island horses Funny Face and Mufasa Metro.

They look to have No Chance against Defending Interdominion Trot Champion Just Believe , who crushed them in last nights final round of heats . The Queen won her heat well though. Queen Elida owned in New Zealand is a definite chance for old kiwi trainer Brent Lilleyย 

Grand Finalists >>>>>>>>>>

INTER DOMINION GRAND FINAL FIELDS

PACING FINAL (not in barrier order): Leap To Fame, Nerano, Better Eclipse, Swayzee, Classie Washington, Pete Said So, Spirit Of St Louis, Speak The Truth, Future Assured, Kanena Provlima, Turn It Up, Our Money Rocks. Cantfindabettorman (emergency).

TROTTING FINAL: Just Believe, Ollivici, Queen Elida, Plymouth Chubb, Sir Fahrenheit, Mufasa Metro, Funny Face, Adelle, Majestic Lavros, Van Sank, Gus, Thebestbourbon. Constantinople (emergency)

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GRAND FINAL Field and Barrier.

Nerano got the poll again with Grimson Stable-mate SwayNZcupzzzeee in the three alley.

Gives Grimson a great shot at the Hat-trick after winning the past 2 Interdominions at Menangle and Victoria.ย 

Com'on Grant !! Let's get Leap To Fame his 15 minutes of fame and take this thing out (please)ย 

$530,000 No NR. RBD. PACERS. Mobileย  1ST LEG QUADRELLA, FIRST 4, 1ST LEG DOUBLE
ย  Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver ย  Classย  Hcp ย 
1 27211 NERANO NZย  Jason Grimson ย  Jack Trainor ย  NR120 B1ย  FR1 ย 
2 25336 TURN IT UPย  Shane Graham ย  Shane Graham ย  NR118 B1ย  FR2 ย 
3 11134 SWAYZEEย  Jason Grimson ย  Cameron Hart ย  NR120 B1ย  FR3 ย 
4 16145 FUTURE ASSUREDย  Trent Dawson ย  Trent Dawson ย  NR120 B1ย  FR4 ย 
5 1s653 CANTFINDABETTORMAN NZย (Em 1)ย  Belinda McCarthy Albpark 16/12/2023 Luke McCarthy ย  NR115 B1ย  FR- ย 
6 41111 LEAP TO FAMEย  Grant Dixon ย  Grant Dixon ย  NR120 B1ย  FR5 ย 
7 70363 KANENA PROVLIMAย  KerryAnn Morris ย  Joshua Gallagher (C) ย  NR106 B2ย  FR6 ย 
ย ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ย 
8 71242 CLASSIE WASHINGTON NZย  Daren Garrard ย  Angus Garrard (C) ย  NR101 B2ย  SR1 ย 
9 74622 SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS NZย  Belinda McCarthy ย  Luke McCarthy ย  NR120 B1ย  SR2 ย 
10 5s713 SPEAK THE TRUTHย  Shannon Price ย  Adam Sanderson ย  NR116 B4ย  SR3 ย 
11 11121 BETTER ECLIPSEย  Jess Tubbs ย  Greg Sugars ย  NR120 B1ย  SR4 ย 
12 21522 PETES SAID SO NZย  KerryAnn Morris ย  Robert Morris ย  NR120 B1ย  SR5 ย 
13 12534 OUR MONEY ROCKSย  David Thorn ย  Chris Geary ย  NR115 B1ย  SR6
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Geez Gammalite. What are they going to buzz that first furlong in with Turn It Up drawn the front as well? Could play into Larryโ€™s lap if he stays out of it early.

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4 hours ago, Blackie said:

Geez Gammalite. What are they going to buzz that first furlong in with Turn It Up drawn the front as well? Could play into Larryโ€™s lap if he stays out of it early.

He is such a fast beginner Turn It Up (mark still owns him and Nat's sister Vicki races him on lease.) He's got a bit old and not quite finishing off his races as well now though.

Could be a thorn in the Grimson Grand Final plan though? . or so could Future Assuredย who could be asked by owner Seymour to 'Go Forward' and 'Squeeze' lol. to help Larry out a bit too . That's what i'd do anywayย ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿคฃ.

all those years ago (40 to be exact can you believe it?) Gammalite gave Poor old John Noble (El Regale) the 'Squeeze' at the first corner to get in behind Popular Alm and then take the Win. John was driving 'all out' to keep 'Poppy's' back after the start from the second row... but had the gallop with a wheel under his legs and ended up 4 back the fenceย ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜. where there's a Will there's a Way mateย ย ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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The Interdominion Trotting Final . (won last time it was at Brisbane by Take A Moment for Anthony and Tim Butt)

NZ owned Queen Elida Very hard to beat for the Barron family . Just Believe , the best Aussie is the defending Champion after Clean sweeping last year. Been to Sweden and back this year. He does a great job , and has great draw here in the Final.

One of our best trainers Pete McMullen is driving old Cambridge trotter Funny Face. Can't work out why that is ? He trains GUS , but is driving for another Trainer ??? wouldn't see that sort of rubbish goings on in Nz . wonder what GUS's owners are thinking ? pay the bloke good training money and then he tries to beat ya with someone elses?? lol.ย  very strange indeed.

(Chantal Turpin is Pete's missus)ย 

$265,000 No NR. RBD. TROTTERS. Mobileย  4TH LEG QUADRELLA, FIRST 4, 3RD LEG TREBLE
ย  Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver ย  Classย  Hcp ย 
1 33234 MUFASA METRO NZย  John Justice ย  John Justice ย  NR120 B3ย  FR1 ย 
2 11355 FUNNY FACE NZย  Jack Butler ย  Pete McMullen ย  NR105 B1ย  FR2 ย 
3 98446 MAJESTIC LAVROS NZย  Tayla Gillespie ย  Matt Elkins ย  NR78 B1ย  FR3 ย 
4 s1111 JUST BELIEVEย  Jess Tubbs ย  Greg Sugars ย  NR120 B1ย  FR4 ย 
5 12221 QUEEN ELIDA NZย  Brent Lilley ย  Chris Alford ย  NR120 B1ย  FR5 ย 
6 32112 OLLIVICI NZย  C W Lang, S L Mahar ย  Chris Lang ย  NR120 B1ย  FR6 ย 
7 s4474 VAN SANKย  Shannon Price ย  Adam Sanderson ย  NR111 B1ย  FR7 ย 
ย ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ย 
8 12243 SIR FAHRENHEIT NZย  Daren Garrard ย  Angus Garrard (C) ย  NR120 B2ย  SR1 ย 
9 1s305 CONSTANTINOPLEย (Em 1)ย  Belinda McCarthy Albpark 16/12/2023 Luke McCarthy ย  NR85 B5ย  SR- ย 
10 47122 PLYMOUTH CHUBBย  Peter Manning ย  Kerryn Manning ย  NR116 B3ย  SR2 ย 
11 45656 THEBESTBOURBONย  Grant Forrest ย  Cameron Hart ย  NR74 B4ย  SR3 ย 
12 42303 ADELLE NZย  Jack Butler ย  Nathan Dawson ODM NR119 B1ย  SR4 ย 
13 00538 GUS NZย  Chantal Turpin ย  Chantal Turpin RODM NR66 B5ย  SR5
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Looking at those 2 fields for the Grand Finals and you want 200-1 .๐Ÿ†

(i'm getting 300-1 Sportsbet)ย ๐Ÿ’ฐ

Not without a chance is the SPIRIT of St Louis - QUEEN Elida double.๐Ÿ‘

Both horses with quite a Few New Zealand owners. cool.

'Spirit' likely to trail through with cover from the 2nd row , now would seem to be with Trainer Luke McCarthy driving . If Grant Dixon with 'Larry' pours the pressure onto Swayzee he might crack ?.ย 

Unbelievable he didn't crack when Akuta was looking at him turning in NZ Cup last monthย ๐Ÿ™„ , so he might be too good ? if runs like that again .ย ย ย Spirit won't be far away though...

Queen Elida the ONLY horse capable of beating 'Just Believe' in the trot. 6 of the runners are over 100-1 and no chance...So pretty good value to have a crack at the upset as 8-1 second favourite.ย ย 

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On 12/12/2023 at 7:55 AM, Gammalite said:
On 12/12/2023 at 3:06 AM, Blackie said:

Geez Gammalite. What are they going to buzz that first furlong in with Turn It Up drawn the front as well? Could play into Larryโ€™s lap if he stays out of it early.

He is such a fast beginner Turn It Up (mark still owns him and Nat's sister Vicki races him on lease.) He's got a bit old and not quite finishing off his races as well now though.

Could be a thorn in the Grimson Grand Final plan though? . or so could Future Assuredย who could be asked by owner Seymour to 'Go Forward' and 'Squeeze' lol. to help Larry out a bit too . That's what i'd do anyway

than you thankyou thank you thankyou. yes yes yes yes . Larry Wins !!!ย  you little ripper. wow . how good is good . yesย 

probably a world record. Helped by 'Turn it Up' getting ahead of 'Nerano' at the start , and 'Future Assured' , getting ahead of 'Swayzee'. Grimson un-done by the LOCAL's Seymour owned Team . A Queensland Winner !!! wahooo ..it's like Blacks A Fake Day's have returned. wow...ย 

Leap to Fame is the Interdominion Champion !! yeehaa .. old Nz Cup winner Swayzee back in 3rd spot . another horse who went well in Nz running 2nd . Better Eclipse for Sugars.ย  Spirit of St Louis is 4th best in field and runs 4th accordingly.ย  First4 Divvie at $250 was good tooย ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’ฐ

1st 6 ย  LEAP TO FAME GRANT DIXON FT 2.25 1.20 2.00 1.20
2nd 11 ย  BETTER ECLIPSE GREG SUGARS BL ย  2.20 ย  2.20
3rd 3 ย  SWAYZEE CAMERON HART FT ย  1.24 ย  1.30
4th 9 ย  SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS JACK CALLAGHAN BL ย  ย  ย 

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