Cyril Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Westport 136. Reefton 149. Auckland 55. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Cyril said: Westport 136. Reefton 149. Auckland 55. That only half the story......Cambridge on Thursday had 91 . So looking at the numbers , one could argue that North had 146 so edges out the Canterbury influx to the Coast as mostly they the same horses. North 146 , Coast 143 [ average] A rare win for North. But nothing can mask the fact the North is desperately short of Horses and the back to back meetings of Cambridge on Thursday into Auckland on Friday is a very flawed strategy ! Of course Oamaru races this week and big meeting at Invercargill on Saturday too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 33 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: That only half the story......Cambridge on Thursday had 91 . So looking at the numbers , one could argue that North had 146 so edges out the Canterbury influx to the Coast as mostly they the same horses. North 146 , Coast 143 [ average] A rare win for North. But nothing can mask the fact the North is desperately short of Horses and the back to back meetings of Cambridge on Thursday into Auckland on Friday is a very flawed strategy ! Of course Oamaru races this week and big meeting at Invercargill on Saturday too ! Dont think you can compare Auckland and Cambridge combined with that of the horses racing on the Coast! West Coast will average 13.6 horses if it is a 10 race card and Auckland would only average 5.5 horses for a 10 race card, so totally different!!! ! A lot of Canterbury trainers wont go to the Coast this time of year due to the concentrating on the Canterbury racing and the prospect of a wet track on either day, plus the big cost of going over! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 44 minutes ago, Brodie said: Dont think you can compare Auckland and Cambridge combined with that of the horses racing on the Coast! West Coast will average 13.6 horses if it is a 10 race card and Auckland would only average 5.5 horses for a 10 race card, so totally different!!! ! A lot of Canterbury trainers wont go to the Coast this time of year due to the concentrating on the Canterbury racing and the prospect of a wet track on either day, plus the big cost of going over! Apparently the weather better on the coast than Canterbury, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Westport fields are better than Xmas, main race don't have to compete with same rating 51 and faster as was the case in December. One simply wonders if some just don't like going to Auckland, one can understand that,better stakes for non winners but still more at Cambridge Edited March 4 by mikeynz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 58 minutes ago, Shad said: Apparently the weather better on the coast than Canterbury, Lol. Far riskier and plenty of racing in Canterbury though. If your horse is not competitive in Canterbury then yes you might well go, but it is not a cheap exercise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 33 minutes ago, Brodie said: Lol. Far riskier and plenty of racing in Canterbury though. If your horse is not competitive in Canterbury then yes you might well go, but it is not a cheap exercise! Very true, more the costs associated with the trip away, and to be fair the races are hard to win anywhere, they won't get the xmas crowd or turnover for that, the xmas dates the jewel in the crown, the thoroughbred code tried various dates back in the day, none ever worked, the interest in that code never amounted to much, they wound up in 1996, Nelson was in a similar position but may have finished earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, Brodie said: Dont think you can compare Auckland and Cambridge combined with that of the horses racing on the Coast! West Coast will average 13.6 horses if it is a 10 race card and Auckland would only average 5.5 horses for a 10 race card, so totally different!!! ! A lot of Canterbury trainers wont go to the Coast this time of year due to the concentrating on the Canterbury racing and the prospect of a wet track on either day, plus the big cost of going over! Surely you saw a bit of 'cheek in tongue' in my logic , mainly I was correcting the the opening post which had no allowance for the Cambridge noms. I daresay the Coast meetings will both head off the combined betting numbers of the two Northern meetings .You heard it here first.....as long as the weather OK , I see peoples roofs were flying in the air on the Coast today ! Re your point on Canterbury trainers not travelling to Coast in March...surely you jest ! Most of them are taking horses....a lot of big hitters....MJones,Dunns,Purvis, House, Nairn , Hope ,Stuart, Barron, Negus Bamford. Aside from Allstars and Dalgety really only RButt missing. The 'top trainers in Canterbury ' on both wins and starters currently would be Dunns, MJones and House. And Bamford doing well with wins so the best trainers well represented . My final point is that the back to back Cambridge and Auckland is a big NO-NO currently....simply not the horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Surely you saw a bit of 'cheek in tongue' in my logic , mainly I was correcting the the opening post which had no allowance for the Cambridge noms. I daresay the Coast meetings will both head off the combined betting numbers of the two Northern meetings .You heard it here first.....as long as the weather OK , I see peoples roofs were flying in the air on the Coast today ! Re your point on Canterbury trainers not travelling to Coast in March...surely you jest ! Most of them are taking horses....a lot of big hitters....MJones,Dunns,Purvis, House, Nairn , Hope ,Stuart, Barron, Negus Bamford. Aside from Allstars and Dalgety really only RButt missing. The 'top trainers in Canterbury ' on both wins and starters currently would be Dunns, MJones and House. And Bamford doing well with wins so the best trainers well represented . My final point is that the back to back Cambridge and Auckland is a big NO-NO currently....simply not the horses "Tongue in cheek" translated in this case = condescending. Pretty much sums up the NZ TAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 10 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Surely you saw a bit of 'cheek in tongue' in my logic , mainly I was correcting the the opening post which had no allowance for the Cambridge noms. I daresay the Coast meetings will both head off the combined betting numbers of the two Northern meetings .You heard it here first.....as long as the weather OK , I see peoples roofs were flying in the air on the Coast today ! Re your point on Canterbury trainers not travelling to Coast in March...surely you jest ! Most of them are taking horses....a lot of big hitters....MJones,Dunns,Purvis, House, Nairn , Hope ,Stuart, Barron, Negus Bamford. Aside from Allstars and Dalgety really only RButt missing. The 'top trainers in Canterbury ' on both wins and starters currently would be Dunns, MJones and House. And Bamford doing well with wins so the best trainers well represented . My final point is that the back to back Cambridge and Auckland is a big NO-NO currently....simply not the horses Yes some of the top trainers are taking horses over, but in the main it is there c team! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 hours ago, Brodie said: Yes some of the top trainers are taking horses over, but in the main it is there c team! The kind of horses the Mighty Spitfire would have eating his dust ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: The kind of horses the Mighty Spitfire would have eating his dust ? Not the same without the Spitfire. There will be others replacing him I suppose? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Brodie said: Not the same without the Spitfire. There will be others replacing him I suppose? No doubt you will point them out !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Tips for the coast meetings anyone, nothing like the odd roughie, I took elbury both days at blenheim at big odds, went to tidy races, didn't even see it racing on the grass down south, paid 20s, good draw on Friday maybe a stronger race. Razors edge always goes ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 hours ago, Shad said: Tips for the coast meetings anyone, nothing like the odd roughie, I took elbury both days at blenheim at big odds, went to tidy races, didn't even see it racing on the grass down south, paid 20s, good draw on Friday maybe a stronger race. Razors edge always goes ok. Had a bit of a go on Lincoln Cove at Cambridge R3 I thought the bookies had that over the odds. I like a couple of Ricky May drives at Westport. Mikra Wave in race 2 and Kawatiri Creek race 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Nowornever said: Had a bit of a go on Lincoln Cove at Cambridge R3 I thought the bookies had that over the odds. I like a couple of Ricky May drives at Westport. Mikra Wave in race 2 and Kawatiri Creek race 5 Don't know much about the first one, but kawatiri creek won good last start, and aptly named, given the Maori name for the area, could be the omen bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/6/2024 at 7:18 PM, Nowornever said: Had a bit of a go on Lincoln Cove at Cambridge R3 I thought the bookies had that over the odds. I like a couple of Ricky May drives at Westport. Mikra Wave in race 2 and Kawatiri Creek race 5 Speaking of Rick May's drives. I haven't yet got past race 1 with my homework. I found the betting on his drive Monaro Meg interesting. I had her as a 20-1 shot but she's at $4.50 fixed and dropping. Clearly, someone knows something. I thought the horse to beat was very much the mare Forgiveness. Paul Nairn as we know is the master with trotters. When he ventures to the Coast you know he has them ready to put their hand up. Ran a very nice second in a trial behind race winner One El who's been racing better fields than Forgiveness meets today. I note that she has blown to bits in previous races a year ago so Paul has had time to sort her out. Her trial run says he's winning that task. If she win's today I'd be backing up at Reefton on Sunday. I always enjoy Coast harness racing. To be fair, I'd take the meeting tonight Hands Down over the Auckland meeting tonight that has little appeal from a punting perspective. No doubt the Ribbon of Light will get a work over along with being all dressed up and nowhere to go. The Magic Man will be there with The Chief, The Wizard and The Ice Man of course but no sign yet of The Bogeyman and The Strawman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Walt said: Speaking of Rick May's drives. I haven't yet got past race 1 with my homework. I found the betting on his drive Monaro Meg interesting. I had her as a 20-1 shot but she's at $4.50 fixed and dropping. Clearly, someone knows something. I thought the horse to beat was very much the mare Forgiveness. Paul Nairn as we know is the master with trotters. When he ventures to the Coast you know he has them ready to put their hand up. Ran a very nice second in a trial behind race winner One El who's been racing better fields than Forgiveness meets today. I note that she has blown to bits in previous races a year ago so Paul has had time to sort her out. Her trial run says he's winning that task. If she win's today I'd be backing up at Reefton on Sunday. I always enjoy Coast harness racing. To be fair, I'd take the meeting tonight Hands Down over the Auckland meeting tonight that has little appeal from a punting perspective. No doubt the Ribbon of Light will get a work over along with being all dressed up and nowhere to go. The Magic Man will be there with The Chief, The Wizard and The Ice Man of course but no sign yet of The Bogeyman and The Strawman Walt I trust you enjoy the trip down to the Coast for trots....hope weather stays fine. Yes the appeal of todays meeting much more than ATC tonight , where Warriors game of much more interest. With small fields tonight there will be plenty of time for mention of the Iceman , the Wizard etc All good in the City of Sails thanks !. Take care in Rocks Road ,I believe there are falling rocks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: Walt I trust you enjoy the trip down to the Coast for trots....hope weather stays fine. Yes the appeal of todays meeting much more than ATC tonight , where Warriors game of much more interest. With small fields tonight there will be plenty of time for mention of the Iceman , the Wizard etc All good in the City of Sails thanks !. Take care in Rocks Road ,I believe there are falling rocks ! I lived in the City of Sails for forty years which makes me feel even older today. I'm really fortunate that I'm so devastatingly handsome or I may appear to be in my 60's ffs. Modesty another of my many attributes. By the time I left Auckland in 2022 it would be more appropriate to call it the City of Snails...or even the City of Orange Cones. I spent so much farking time in traffic each day moving back to the Mainland was a given. Would love to go over to the Coast for the weekend but my better half is in Hawaii and I have a bunch of critters to look after while I work from home. Will be following the trots today and yelling driving instructions at the TV of course..... something akin to ......go now....now....go now ya bastard ....oh ffs what were you thinking Was a bit disconcerting to have rocks falling off the cliff again on Rocks Road. When things start falling down the hillside you can easily be reminded of the August 2022 storm here. We are right at the top of Princes Drive and our area was hit badly. Evidence of that still all around us. Weather is beautiful in Nelson today so no thoughts of flooding or slipping down the hillside. The Auckland meeting tonight does almost nothing for me. Will watch the 4 horse 40k Founders field go around but with The Iceman and The Chief in there it will be on mute. Would rather eat your toenail clippings than listen to more of that crap but you enjoy yourself Edited March 7 by Walt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 58 minutes ago, Walt said: I lived in the City of Sails for forty years which makes me feel even older today. I'm really fortunate that I'm so devastatingly handsome or I may appear to be in my 60's ffs. Modesty another of my many attributes. By the time I left Auckland in 2022 it would be more appropriate to call it the City of Snails...or even the City of Orange Cones. I spent so much farking time in traffic each day moving back to the Mainland was a given. Would love to go over to the Coast for the weekend but my better half is in Hawaii and I have a bunch of critters to look after while I work from home. Will be following the trots today and yelling driving instructions at the TV of course..... something akin to ......go now....now....go now ya bastard ....oh ffs what were you thinking Was a bit disconcerting to have rocks falling off the cliff again on Rocks Road. When things start falling down the hillside you can easily be reminded of the August 2022 storm here. We are right at the top of Princes Drive and our area was hit badly. Evidence of that still all around us. Weather is beautiful in Nelson today so no thoughts of flooding or slipping down the hillside. The Auckland meeting tonight does almost nothing for me. Will watch the 4 horse 40k Founders field go around but with The Iceman and The Chief in there it will be on mute. Would rather eat your toenail clippings than listen to more of that crap but you enjoy yourself My Nelson family who have lived there for 50 years often dream of living up Princess Drive with all the rich people ! The dress circle of Nelson ,surrounded by rich Americans and former CEO's of big business and heads of worlds biggest hedge funds. But also just a good stone's throw from the more basic area of Victory where the ordinary people live. PD is my family's short cut to the Tahuna Beach below ! Your excuse not to drive 2 x hours to the Westport trots is one most Nelson harness followers use , hopefully you attend the local meetings or you will lose them. Do you even have a day in June now ?? Million dollar view .....my family used to rent in Rocks road opposite Hualashore Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 33 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: My Nelson family who have lived there for 50 years often dream of living up Princess Drive with all the rich people ! The dress circle of Nelson ,surrounded by rich Americans and former CEO's of big business and heads of worlds biggest hedge funds. But also just a good stone's throw from the more basic area of Victory where the ordinary people live. PD is my family's short cut to the Tahuna Beach below ! Your excuse not to drive 2 x hours to the Westport trots is one most Nelson harness followers use , hopefully you attend the local meetings or you will lose them. Do you even have a day in June now ?? Million dollar view .....my family used to rent in Rocks road opposite Hualashore Rock. You're doing well to drive to Westport in 2 hours Takes me an hour longer but I am a coffee snob so have to stop along the way. Funny you mention Victory. Our first house in NZ was in Toi Toi Street and we played a lot of our sport on Victory Square. The short cut to Tahuna you're referring to is Days Track me thinks. Used it every week as a boy and now it's about two hundreds from our front door. It is a million dollar view but work to be done for me to be a rich person. Will need a few more winners. The homes opposite Haulashore are mostly beautiful and a pretty penny these days. The Cliffs is the elite area of Nelson. Many homes north of 4 mil. The miserable gits took our winter meeting off us so it's just the summer meet in January. The facilities at Richmond are tired but the track is awesome. I've spoken with several prominent trainers and ex trainers that all rate the track at Nelson as one of the best. It's a sinful waste to only use the track in January. If you want locals to be interested in harness racing a smart call would be not to remove it. Hope my day picks up after Forgiveness blew to bits on the turn in the first when traveling good enough in fourth place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, Walt said: Hope my day picks up after Forgiveness blew to bits on the turn in the first when traveling good enough in fourth place. Curiously no money for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 How can Auckland continue with these small field sizes. Tonight is a absolute joke… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 25 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Curiously no money for it. haha money talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 minutes ago, Newmarket said: How can Auckland continue with these small field sizes. Tonight is a absolute joke… Good question. It seems the writing is on the wall. If the ATC was my business I'd want to know why our biggest city with a massive population of punters can deliver such an average product. Seems the ATC has strangled the goose that laid the golden egg. Harness Racing is a great sport.....but you'd have to be very keen to get excited about their meeting tonight and many other nights. There is so much competition for the discretionary entertainment and sporting dollar in Auckland but it would seem ATC are not interested in competing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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