Special Agent Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) No gallops races anywhere in NZ for 7 days due to abandonments. Has anyone considered the cost to owners? Who knows how many more week's training fees will need to be paid before each horse gets back into a field??!! Pukekohe should have been rescheduled to Friday, and Hastings to Monday. Notice it is all the "flash" tracks that have had to abandon. Look at how the unwanted tracks such as Avondale, Foxton and Levin are handling large amounts of horses in a trialling capacity. It's not rocket science. Although a training, trialling and minor race filler AWT's are obviously not the answer. One wonders when those in charge will look in the mirror and make an honest appraisal. There will be more crude descriptions of our head honchos than Gai's "Mindless Marshmallows" referring to the Aussie equivalents. Edited July 19 by Special Agent 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 MEETING NEWS Taranaki Abandoned Today After an inspection of the track this morning by the RIB and Club representatives the meeting at New Plymouth today has been abandoned. There has been 19mm of rain overnight resulting in a water-logged track with further rain predicted. MEETING NEWS Rotorua Abandoned Today Due to surface water on the track in areas past the winning post, and after sustained periods of rain, the meeting at Rotorua today has been abandoned. There has been 31mm of rain in the last 24 hours on a Heavy10 track. NZTR will work with the Club and Entain NZ to see what options are available next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEETING NEWS Taranaki Abandoned Today After an inspection of the track this morning by the RIB and Club representatives the meeting at New Plymouth today has been abandoned. There has been 19mm of rain overnight resulting in a water-logged track with further rain predicted. MEETING NEWS Rotorua Abandoned Today Due to surface water on the track in areas past the winning post, and after sustained periods of rain, the meeting at Rotorua today has been abandoned. There has been 31mm of rain in the last 24 hours on a Heavy10 track. NZTR will work with the Club and Entain NZ to see what options are available next week.
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 @TAB For Ever does the Messara report float? The messiah doesn't walk on water. May as well not bother during July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Lisa Allpress interviewed on SENZ a short time ago. She rode on a gallop on the New Plymouth track this morning and said she was happy with the track and the wrong call has been made in abandoning. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: There has been 31mm of rain in the last 24 hours on a Heavy10 track. NZTR will work with the Club and Entain NZ to see what options are available next week. MIA Sharrock - the rain was forecast. Why don't you and Entain formulate a plan B before plan A fails? The parameters are quite simple aren't they. Can we get the starting gates to another venue that has a better surface, will there be a broadcast van available and what is the forecast! I also suggest that you throw away the sausage rolls now. 4 x thaw and freeze makes the pastry fall off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Lisa Allpress interviewed on SENZ a short time ago. She rode on a gallop on the New Plymouth track this morning and said she was happy with the track and the wrong call has been made in abandoning. I wondered that. A mate attended their February meeting and they had more rain then in torrential downpours up to an hour before scratching time and then during the day. It was Taranaki Cup day though. I wonder if the big 'O' was at Taranaki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Lisa Allpress interviewed on SENZ a short time ago. She rode on a gallop on the New Plymouth track this morning and said she was happy with the track and the wrong call has been made in abandoning. I hear some of the locals aren't happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 54 minutes ago, Special Agent said: Pukekohe should have been rescheduled to Friday, and Hastings to Monday. Notice it is all the "flash" tracks that have had to abandon. Look at how the unwanted tracks such as Avondale, Foxton and Levin are handling large amounts of horses in a trialling capacity. It's not rocket science. Yes but those tracks are part of the Messara ( @TAB For Ever ) undesirables. The plan is to sell them and make the chosen elite better. Well the plan arent working is it! Anyone seen or heard from MIA Sharrock? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 19mm of rain in last 24hrs…..😆😆😆😆. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, Newmarket said: 19mm of rain in last 24hrs…..😆😆😆😆. At the February meeting they had more than 20mm in two hours before 7 am! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: MIA Sharrock - the rain was forecast. Why don't you and Entain formulate a plan B before plan A fails? The parameters are quite simple aren't they. Can we get the starting gates to another venue that has a better surface, will there be a broadcast van available and what is the forecast! I also suggest that you throw away the sausage rolls now. 4 x thaw and freeze makes the pastry fall off. That's the real key part of all this CS, there is no Plan B, no initiative and no one knows whats going on. It's an absolute circus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, Newmarket said: 19mm of rain in last 24hrs…..😆😆😆😆. https://www.metservice.com/maps-radar/rain/radar/New-Plymouth?range=120&tab=last-24-hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, Huey said: That's the real key part of all this CS, there is no Plan B, no initiative and no one knows whats going on. It's an absolute circus! Look how they do it in OZ ABANDONED & TRANSFERRED MEETINGS Cranbourne (Vic) - Thursday 18th July 2024 Racing Victoria (RV) advises that the meeting scheduled for Cranbourne this Thursday, 18 July has been transferred to the Sportsbet-Pakenham Synthetic track. The Cranbourne track has been deemed unsuitable for racing this week due to the impacts of ongoing rain with over 41mm falling since 9am yesterday. As a result of the transfer, the 3YO Fillies Maiden Plate and 0-62 Handicap have been reduced to 1200m, while the BM58 Handicap has been reduced to 2200m. In addition, field limits have been reduced to 12 for six races, with a field limit of 11 in place for the two 1600m races – a Maiden Plate and BM64 Handicap. Acceptances for the transferred meeting have been extended until 11am today with riders to be declared by 2pm. Trainers who had accepted for the Cranbourne meeting, but do not wish to start their horse at the Sportsbet-Pakenham Synthetic meeting are requested to withdraw it by 11am today. Updated 16/7 Rosehill Trials (NSW) - Friday 9th August 2024 Rosehill barrier trials scheduled for Friday, 9th August 2024 have been brought FORWARD and will now be conducted on Tuesday, 6th August 2024. Nominations for this set of trials close at 11.00am on Friday, 2nd August 2024. Updated 15/7 Beaumont Newcastle (NSW) - Monday 22nd July & Tuesday 6th August 2024 Racing NSW advise of the following Beaumont Newcastle (Country status) race meeting transfers. Monday 22 July 2024- Beaumont Newcastle transferred to Gunnedah Race No. Newspaper Name Distance Prizemoney Amended Distance 1 BM 66 HCP 2100 $27,000.00 2150 2 BM 58 HCP 1150 $27,000.00 1000 3 COUNTRY BOOSTED BM 58 HCP 1300 $30,000.00 4 CLASS 1 HCP 1200 $27,000.00 1250 5 CG&E MAIDEN PLATE 1150 $27,000.00 Maiden Plate 1000m (no sex restriction) 6 F&M MAIDEN PLATE 1150 $27,000.00 Maiden Plate 1250m (no sex restriction) 7 COUNTRY BOOSTED MAIDEN PLATE 1300 $30,000.00 1400 Tuesday 6 August 2024- Beaumont Newcastle transferred to Quirindi Race No. Newspaper Name Distance Prizemoney Amended Distance 1 F&M BM 58 HCP 1150 $27,000.00 1100 2 CG&E BM 58 HCP 1150 $27,000.00 1100 3 COUNTRY BOOSTED BM 58 HCP 1300 $30,000.00 1450 4 CLASS 1 HCP 1200 $27,000.00 5 CLASS 1 & MAIDEN PLATE 2100 $27,000.00 2000 6 COUNTRY BOOSTED MAIDEN PLATE 1150 $30,000.00 1100 7 MAIDEN HCP 1350 $27,000.00 1450 Updated 15/7 Sportsbet-Ballarat (VIC) - Sunday 14th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Sportsbet-Ballarat tomorrow, Sunday 14th July has been transferred to the club's synthetic track. Updated 13/7 Donald (VIC) - Saturday 13th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Donald today has been transferred to Warracknabeal. Updated 13/7 Port Augusta (SA) - Friday 12th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Port Augusta today has been abandoned due to weather and state of the track. The Port Augusta Cup will be added to the program for Sunday 21st July with new nominations to be taken. Updated 12/7 Ingham (Qld) - Saturday 13th July 2024 The Herbert River JC (Ingham) non-Tab meeting scheduled for Saturday July 13, has been abandoned due to the state of the track. The Ingham racetrack has received 40mm rainfall in the past 7 days (including an overnight shower) and a further QRIC Stewards track inspection on Thursday morning ruled the track to be unsuitable for racing. Updated 11/7 Coffs Harbour (NSW) - Saturday 13th July 2024 Racing NSW advise the Coffs Harbour race meeting scheduled for Saturday, 13th July 2024 has been abandoned. RNSW Stewards have inspected the track currently rated a Heavy 10, after 110mm rainfall over the past 7 days and have deemed it unsuitable for racing. Updated 9/7 Taree (NSW) - Thursday 11th July 2024 Racing NSW advise the Taree race meeting scheduled for Thursday, 11th July 2024 has been transferred to Saturday, 13th July 2024. The Taree track is currently rated a Heavy-10 however should see some improvement with the extra few days and favourable weather forecast. Please note scratchings to be reinstated and rider declarations re-opened to now close 12 noon tomorrow. Updated 9/7 Muswellbrook (NSW) - Thursday 11th July 2024 Following the Muswellbrook track deemed unsuitable for racing this morning, the meeting has been postponed and will now be conducted at Muswellbrook on Thursday, 11th July 2024. Stewards to reinspect track tomorrow morning. Please note scratchings to be reinstated and rider declarations re-opened to now close 12 noon tomorrow. Updated 9/7 Muswellbrook (NSW) - Tuesday 9th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Muswellbrook today has been postponed due to overnight rain and track being deemed unsuitable to race. Updated 9/7 Rosehill Gardens Trials (NSW) - Tuesday 9th July 2024 Please be advised that the trials scheduled for Rosehill Gardens today, Tuesday 9th July have been postponed and will now be conducted on Friday 12th July. Updated 9/7 Goulburn (NSW) - Friday 19th July 2024 Racing NSW wish to advise the Goulburn race meeting scheduled for Friday 19th July 2024 has been transferred and will now be conducted at Queanbeyan racecourse. As a result of this transfer, some race distance amendments apply. Updated 8/7 Wyong (NSW) - Monday 8th July 2024 Wyong: The meeting has been postponed due to further rainfall overnight leaving sections of the track waterlogged and unsuitable to race. Updated 8/7 Port Augusta (SA) - Sunday 7th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Port Augusta today has been postponed due to overnight rain and subsequent state of the track. Updated 7/7 Wyong (NSW) - Saturday 6th July 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Wyong today has been postponed at 9am following further rainfall and subsequent state of the track. This meeting will now proceed on Monday 8th July with all scratchings reinstated. Updated 6/7 Coffs Harbour (NSW) - Saturday 6th July 2024 Racing NSW Stewards have inspected the Coffs Harbour track following 7mm of rainfall last 24hours/72mm last 7 days and have deemed the track unsuitable for racing. With a forecast for further rain over the next 24 hours, the decision has been made to postpone the race meeting scheduled for tomorrow to next Saturday, 13th July 2024. Please note fresh nominations and acceptances to be taken with nominations closing 11am Monday morning. Updated 5/7 Wondai (Qld) - Saturday 6th July 2024 The South Burnett RC (Wondai) non-Tab race meeting on Saturday July 6 has been abandoned due the state of the track. A QRIC Stewards inspection of the racetrack Friday morning found the track unsuitable for racing following 20mm of rain/consistent light showers since the beginning of the week. There are still a number of sections of the track with surface water and weather conditions will not allow such to dry out adequately. Consideration was given to postponing the meeting to Sunday, but could not be logistically achieved. RQ will liaise with the club regarding a replacement date later in the season. Due to the abandonment, and additional race has been added to the Esk JC non-Tab meeting on Saturday, July 13. It is: Open Plate (sw) 1200m $10,000 Nominations for the Esk race meeting close at 11.00am on Tuesday 9/7/24. Updated 5/7 Canterbury Park Trials (NSW) - Friday 5th July 2024 Please be advised that the trials scheduled for Canterbury Park today have been postponed due to the unsafe condition of the track following 25mm of rain in the past 48 hours including 10mm overnight. Updated 5/7 Nowra Trials (NSW) - Monday 8th July 2024 Racing NSW advise the set of Non-Raceday barrier trials scheduled for Nowra on Monday 8th July 2024 have been abandoned due to the state of the track deemed unsuitable to conduct trials. Updated 4/7 Kembla Grange (NSW) Thursday 4th July 2024 Kembla Grange - Following further rain overnight the stewards have conducted a track inspection and deemed it unsuitable for racing as such the meeting has been postponed. Updated 4/7 Doomben (QLD) - Tuesday 2nd July 2024 Please be advised that the trials scheduled for Doomben today, Tuesday 2nd July have been postponed to Thursday 4th July due to weather and state of the track. New nominations will be closing at midday Wednesday 3rd July. Updated 2/7 Toowoomba (Qld) - Tuesday 2nd July 2024 Toowoomba Barrier Trials Tuesday 02.07.2024 - CANCELLED due to weather - further details will be released tomorrow regarding rescheduling of new Barrier trials. Updated 1/7 Naracoorte (SA) - Sunday 30th June 2024 Racing SA advise the meeting scheduled for Naracoorte on Sunday 30th June 2024 has been abandoned due to the state of the track and current weather forecast Updated 28/6 Roebourne (WA) - Saturday 29th June 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Roebourne tomorrow, Saturday 29th June 2024 has been abandoned due to excessive overnight rainfall. Updated 28/6 Carnarvon (WA) - Friday 28th June 2024 Please be advised that the meeting scheduled for Carnarvon today has been abandoned due to weather and state of the track. Updated 28/6 Rockhampton (Qld) - Friday 28th June 2024 Racing Queensland (RQ) advises that the race meeting which was originally scheduled for Rockhampton Jockey Club on Friday 28 June has been abandoned as the track has been deemed unsuitable for racing due to recent rainfall. As a result the following races have been transferred (with scratchings reinstated) to the Rockhampton Jockey Club program on Sunday 30 June. It is: • Tattersalls Sprint 1200m; • Ratings Band 0 – 55 1300m; and • Two Year old Maiden Handicap 1100m Any horse accepted in another race on the program on Friday can nominate / accept in any race on Sunday 30 June. The deadline for this race meeting has been extended until midday today. Updated 27/6 ATC Barrier Trials (NSW) Various Dates June & July 2024 Racing NSW advise of the following barrier trial amendments due to the Randwick track deemed currently unsuitable for racing due to inclement weather. Monday 24 June 2024- Randwick Steeple Grass Trials ABANDONED. Monday 24 June 2024- Randwick Polytrack Trial Meeting added. Please note a replacement set of Polytrack trials have been added pending sufficient nominations. Fresh nominations to close 1pm this afternoon. Friday 28 June 2024- Randwick Barrier Trial Meeting added. Nominations to close Tuesday 25 June. Friday 5 July 2024- Randwick trials transferred to Canterbury Park. Updated 22/6 Royal Randwick (NSW) Saturday 22th June 2024 Randwick has been postponed due to the condition of the track following persistent rainfall this morning. Updated 22/6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 This must be a record @TAB For Ever - no thoroughbred race meetings in NZ for 7 days! Ironically the last flat meeting was at Ruakaka. A track that has had dates taken off it. No thought to move the Auckland Racing at Pukekohe to Ruakaka...nope we'll roll the dice again and see what it is like on Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 This was their Plan B for today: MEETING NEWS Racing at Taranaki/Rotorua Saturday Currently both tracks sit in the Heavy10 range and have experienced minimal rain in the last 24 hours with both venues in good order as of today’s inspection. Rainfall, actual and forecast, will continue to be monitored. The tracks will be inspected again around 6am by track managers and the RIB. Any information will be communicated by NZTR by 6.45am at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I count at least 6 meetings abandoned in June and July. Any one got a higher number? Doesn't include all the AWT trial meetings cancelled because of a lack of nominations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assange Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 53 minutes ago, Huey said: That's the real key part of all this CS, there is no Plan B, no initiative and no one knows whats going on. It's an absolute circus! Exactly. Have they not learnt to have a back-up plan after the plethora of abandonments we have had recently. Its winter - it rains. This is hurting owners and all the others who don't earn if there is no meeting. Any response from anyone at the aptly named Dick Street? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, Assange said: Any response from anyone at the aptly named Dick Street? They're still unpacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, All The Aces said: Lisa Allpress interviewed on SENZ a short time ago. She rode on a gallop on the New Plymouth track this morning and said she was happy with the track and the wrong call has been made in abandoning. A Club must arrange for a track gallop on the course on the morning of the race meeting to reconfirm the declared track rating, unless this is not practical Why would a club bother if the rider's opinion is going to be ignored or over-ruled? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, curious said: A Club must arrange for a track gallop on the course on the morning of the race meeting to reconfirm the declared track rating, unless this is not practical Why would a club bother if the rider's opinion is going to be ignored or over-ruled? There is something not right about this descision. Again I refer back to the February meeting which went ahead in similar circumstances. Arguably worse given I think there was 15mm of rain in less than two hours just before track inspection. Who were the allocated Stewards today? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Taranaki Head Stipe - John Oatham - 021 725 550 Rotorua Head Stipe - Brady Jones 027 705 0606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 There is a plan B and a policy for that but they've perhaps worked out that it's flawed because most winter gallopers won't want to race on the poly. 1. If a turf racetrack is determined by NZTR or a Stipendiary Steward to be unsuitable or unsafe, or is otherwise unavailable, for racing, NZTR may decide to transfer a racemeeting from that racetrack to a synthetic racetrack if, in its opinion, there are no other suitable turf racetracks in the relevant region to hold the racemeeting or it is not otherwise appropriate in the circumstances to transfer the meeting to a turf track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, curious said: Taranaki Head Stipe - John Oatham - 021 725 550 Rotorua Head Stipe - Brady Jones 027 705 0606 Is there a pattern? @Reefton would say there was. Brady Jones was the Stipe February 3rd at Taranaki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 MEETING NEWS Rescheduled - Taranaki/Rotorua/Trials Tuesday 23 July Taranaki will now race at Hawera due to a prior booking at the New Plymouth Racecourse. Fields and stakes will remain the same with the exception that the two 1800m races will now be over 1900m. All scratchings will be re-instated. There will be new race times provided by Entain for this meeting. It is important for this meeting to takes place no later than Tuesday given there are horses planning to go to The Winter Cup meeting at Riccarton Park 11 days later. The trials scheduled for Cambridge will remain on Tuesday. While this is not ideal given the Taranaki races there will be riders available that were scheduled to ride at Rotorua on Saturday 20 July. Wednesday 24 July WTR@Cambridge Races as per programme. Thursday 25 July A new meeting has been scheduled for Rotorua. The programme will remain the same as that for the abandoned meeting however new entries will be required. Nominations close at noon Monday 22 July and withdrawals close at 10am Tuesday 23 July. Horses that were originally in the fields for Saturday 20 July will be given preference. ManawatuRC@Awapuni races as per programme. Friday 26 July Foxton will now trial on Friday, a transfer from their original day of Tuesday 23 July. Nominations close at midday Thursday 25 July. CJC@Riccarton Park races as per programme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: 19mm of rain in last 24hrs…..😆😆😆😆. So what? It is winter time. I doubt 19mm would make the track unsafe. The jockey who tested the Taranaki track has enough experience to make a call on safety. Don't put rules in that NZTR have no intentions following. I have spoken to reliable people at both Hastings and Taranaki who think the tracks could have been raced on. Protocols are no good if they are not followed. What a joke, Taranaki moves to Hawera, ANOTHER TRACK NOT REQUIRED. Didn't Opunake move from Hawera for the better track in New Plymouth? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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