Korbyn Newman is Unhinged

[Gammalite]

well he's 'Unleashed' anyway. 

What a great driving display today with getting the Win with Rock Lobster in a perfect drive for unhinged Nigel and his Westview team in race 1.

A 10/10 drive from the unruly position in the first race today at Banks Peninsula.

Then backed up with a fabulous drive on Nigel's trotter in race 3 on Very Majestic  . driving perfectly from the unruly start position as well , ended up trailing the hot favourite of Allstars and grabbed late for 2nd , but a 10/10 drive again IMO.

and Korbyn had a crack in the Junior Drivers race with Major Happy in Race 6. If you watch the video the very poor Non-trying horse Couldn't even keep with the mobile towards the start point, and was throwing it's head around up the home straight trying Not To Go at all. But somehow Korbyn got the squib of a thing to run 3rd beaten a head and a neck. some sort of miracle .

I'm giving KORBYN NEWMAN a maximum 30/30 for those 3 drives today  . A fantastic effort .

Korbyn Just the needs the chances . He won the last at Oamaru last Sunday with a perfect drive too on a Telfer runner.

Very well done young man !!!!! 

[Mardy]

Yip he drove both of the trotters very well,probably deserves to get more drives.Am lucky enough to be involved with those 2 trotters,so was very pleased to get the win with Tara,and also Lynn ran well in her first run back in a while.

[the galah]

often the dunn trotters seem to pick up speed pretty quick after the start and newman used that to his advantage,even from the unruly.For a couple of inexperienced trotters their manners were very good yesterday.

i see what you mean about major happy and it appeared newman may have thougth the same, as he seemed to want to keep driving it after the finish which was unusual,like you see some drivers do when they seem to think the horse should have done a little better.

Having said that,i have had a bit of luck following major happy at times and the thing i liked about her, was i thought how genuine she normally is and that she keeps giving right to the finish. Shes always had a habit of moving her head around a bit as she gets near the post which i've put down to her sort of saying ,i'm trying my hardest so driving me hard at the finish isn't entirely fair. I think its become a catch 22 thing myself now shes had 40 starts,she sort of waits for the driver to get serious but also thinks its unnecessary.Horses are like people i think,some more complicated than others.

also i thought the way she drifted straight after the start was a sign she may not have been 100% on the day.Even for a known slow beginner from a mobile,she was worse than normal. Maybe she was in season or maybe she wasn't feeling 100% or maybe she was over worked a touch in hindsight just before the race. Thats what it looked like to me. Then again her exaggerated head movements may not have been a result of any of that.

 

Edited September 23 by the galah

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

i see what you mean about major happy and it appeared newman may have thougth the same, as he seemed to want to keep driving it after the finish which was unusual,like you see some drivers do when they seem to think the horse should have done a little better.

I see . it is a mare . and just the one win per year for her. spose that's better than some , but not by very much lol. 

Being a mare i'd try her with a tail tie. Used to drive all the Mares with their tail tied straight back to the cross-bar under the dust sheet. This kept their attention well and were surprisingly more concentrating when you did that. A bit like a dog or a cat , who is playing , fighting or whatever mood it's in , and using it's tail for signalling intent. Once you grab it by the tail you have it's full attention and concentration then lol. and it will be reacting to your moves thereafter lol. The geldings never seemed to use their tail like that , so didn't tie them hardly at all .

Mentioned the other day about the use of Boring poles and/or rein burrs on stallions. (When we saw most of the field in the open trot at Addington had one on)  this was similar to keep their attention , when the going got tough. Gammalite and Lightning Blue and Colt Thirty One all wore 'Poles' even though not hanging or anything. just a device to keep there attention. and won a lot of races when they almost certainly wouldn't of won what they did without it. 

Didn't use Bit Burrs at all as found them too aggressive and you need to be able to 'steer the horse accurately' at all times and there's a chance they could interfere with that requirement.

Did you say SUNDEE's SON had 2 poles on at one stage ? one each side ?  that would be incredible. I've never seen that anywhere ever.  He was a bit of a rogue at one stage jumping around all over the place from memory. John sure got him going straight in the end though. Straight into the record books with that amazing Dominion win that time .  and 34 wins total. Sure got his attention in the end. and the attention of the nation. Fantastic Trotter . goat probably. 

[Gammalite]

A nice strong drive by Korbyn today with a Trotter he trains out at the Woodend Beach . for some relatives the owners. Well done again Korbyn at 16-1 odds too. 

In Race 10 Timaru SPECIAL EFFECTS trotted away beautifully for him and powered to the lead and won well.  quite a nice trotter. 

BUT unfortunately  , in race 4 VERY MAJESTIC galloped away , and lost too much ground from the stand. Along with the other 3 unruly horses all galloping madly off the second row. the 4 Unrulys All out the back 

Notice =  One of those was driven by John Dunn for another Trainer , and he did the same in the last race of the day driving the favourite TAKE THE DEAL for someone  , while the Diamonds junior RHarrison battled hard with the Dunn stable runner JUDINE in the same race.

Is that sort of weird that John Dunn is trying to beat his stable horses of Very Majestic and Judine for other trainers ?? sort of doesn't feel right 🤔  as Surely. He is hoping that Very Majestic and Judine are winning those races ???   

[Westview]

9 hours ago, Gammalite said:

A nice strong drive by Korbyn today with a Trotter he trains out at the Woodend Beach . for some relatives the owners. Well done again Korbyn at 16-1 odds too. 

In Race 10 Timaru SPECIAL EFFECTS trotted away beautifully for him and powered to the lead and won well.  quite a nice trotter. 

BUT unfortunately  , in race 4 VERY MAJESTIC galloped away , and lost too much ground from the stand. Along with the other 3 unruly horses all galloping madly off the second row. the 4 Unrulys All out the back 

Notice =  One of those was driven by John Dunn for another Trainer , and he did the same in the last race of the day driving the favourite TAKE THE DEAL for someone  , while the Diamonds junior RHarrison battled hard with the Dunn stable runner JUDINE in the same race.

Is that sort of weird that John Dunn is trying to beat his stable horses of Very Majestic and Judine for other trainers ?? sort of doesn't feel right 🤔  as Surely. He is hoping that Very Majestic and Judine are winning those races ???   

Korbyn drove very majestic because of his good drive on her the week before when john was away, John Howe put John on his runner when he saw he didn't have a drive in that race , I think I'd rather have John out there driving rather than sitting in the stand.

[the galah]

11 hours ago, Gammalite said:

A nice strong drive by Korbyn today with a Trotter he trains out at the Woodend Beach . for some relatives the owners. Well done again Korbyn at 16-1 odds too. 

In Race 10 Timaru SPECIAL EFFECTS trotted away beautifully for him and powered to the lead and won well.  quite a nice trotter. 

BUT unfortunately  , in race 4 VERY MAJESTIC galloped away , and lost too much ground from the stand. Along with the other 3 unruly horses all galloping madly off the second row. the 4 Unrulys All out the back 

Notice =  One of those was driven by John Dunn for another Trainer , and he did the same in the last race of the day driving the favourite TAKE THE DEAL for someone  , while the Diamonds junior RHarrison battled hard with the Dunn stable runner JUDINE in the same race.

Is that sort of weird that John Dunn is trying to beat his stable horses of Very Majestic and Judine for other trainers ?? sort of doesn't feel right 🤔  as Surely. He is hoping that Very Majestic and Judine are winning those races ???   

special effects is a hard one to follow.Korbyn newman has done very well with him. the horse always showed ability for james stormont but broke virtually every start.It is by father patrick and they seem to be funny horses. the beach trainers seem to do well with them but a lot seem very unpredictable and inconsistent. Funny thing is they go well when young horses but often seem to get worse with practice as they get older. James stormont always used to chase the field after losing a lot of ground which i think bnever helped the horse when he had it. I think thats one of the worst things any driver can do,break,be 20 lengths last and still try and win. It must be hard on the lungs and the mental side for the horse when that happens. Bob cameron very rarely used to chase,even if he settled 10 lengths last.

Edited September 29 by the galah

[Gammalite]

2 hours ago, Westview said:

Korbyn drove very majestic because of his good drive on her the week before when john was away, John Howe put John on his runner when he saw he didn't have a drive in that race , I think I'd rather have John out there driving rather than sitting in the stand.

Fair enough. John is a great driver. Drove Harrison John with Gammalite-like style the other night and won accordingly. But he isn't on the training ticket for Diamond Racing, so can drive what he likes. It feels like he does a lot of the training work himself though. But just thought he would be feeling awkward in a photo finish if it came to that ,if he was alongside with someone elses horse.

It does happen occasionally though, Chris Alford (one of Australia's best ever drivers) often drove Queen Elida for her Nz ex-pat trainer and owners against his wife's trotter Sleepee , and others. our top Pete McMullen will very rarely drive against wife Chantel Turpins trotters , even though he does all the work with them and is too 'shy' to go on the training ticket as trainer.

In the wild West , Inderdominion winning driver Gary Hall JNR actually broke the rules IMO. they are going too far with him driving horses still in his dad's name as trainer (the famous Gary Hall SNR trainer of I'm TheMightyQuinn) , as they have always done .  BUT last Friday, in race 4 at Gloucester Park Gry JNR had a horse in listing himself as Trainer, and then had someone else drive it (Regal Cheval) while he drove the expensive NZ Purchase SKYLOU for his father. That sort of thing stinks, and has always been against the rules . Trainers Should NOT be allowed to drive horses in the same race for Other Trainers. Reeks of race fixing.  

[the galah]

 

 

3 hours ago, Gammalite said:

In the wild West , Inderdominion winning driver Gary Hall JNR actually broke the rules IMO. they are going too far with him driving horses still in his dad's name as trainer (the famous Gary Hall SNR trainer of I'm TheMightyQuinn) , as they have always done .  BUT last Friday, in race 4 at Gloucester Park Gry JNR had a horse in listing himself as Trainer, and then had someone else drive it (Regal Cheval) while he drove the expensive NZ Purchase SKYLOU for his father. That sort of thing stinks, and has always been against the rules . Trainers Should NOT be allowed to drive horses in the same race for Other Trainers. Reeks of race fixing.  

i think aussie is more dodgy than nz by far.

i think one of the most obvious cases of team driving i had seen in recent months, was at albion park by grant dixon/trista dixon on 20 july in a group 2 race worth $207,000.race 5.

I don't know who solid earth properies are,they owned both the horses involved,but clearly grant dixon drove his horse to advantage its stablemate.Cheer leader and free thinker were the horses involved.

The amazing thing was the stipes didn't even question grant dixon.

All i can think of is he and solid earth properties are too big a names and get a free pass ,the stipes in queensland are weak and many punters would have been saying,well there you go,what do i tell ya. .

You would have seen it gammalite so i'm sure you know what i mean.

Grant dixon,on a $12 shot, landed in the 1/1 on the back of the third favorite,who was racing outside the leader. That parked horse was being driven by trent dawson who's style is to not give up the death seat. Dixon at the mile knew his stablemate and equal favorite was on his back,so he just went 3 back the fence and gave up any chance he had by following a roughie in the trail.Trista dixon just took his place,got the perfect run and just got the win.Meanwhile grant dixon finished full of running.

Do the stipes over there run a bit scared of upsetting the apple cart sometimes?

Edited September 30 by the galah

[Gammalite]

32 minutes ago, the galah said:

 

 

i think aussie is more dodgy than nz by far.

i think one of the most obvious cases of team driving i had seen in recent months, was at albion park by grant dixon/trista dixon on 20 july in a group 2 race worth $207,000.race 5.

I don't know who solid earth properies are,they owned both the horses involved,but clearly grant dixon drove his horse to advantage its stablemate.Cheer leader and free thinker were the horses involved.

The amazing thing was the stipes didn't even question grant dixon.

All i can think of is he and solid earth properties are too big a names and get a free pass ,the stipes in queensland are weak and many punters would have been saying,well there you go,what do i tell ya. .

You would have seen it gammalite so i'm sure you know what i mean.

Grant dixon,on a $12 shot, landed in the 1/1 on the back of the third favorite,who was racing outside the leader. That parked horse was being driven by trent dawson who's style is to not give up the death seat. Dixon at the mile knew his stablemate and equal favorite was on his back,so he just went 3 back the fence and gave up any chance he had by following a roughie in the trail.Trista dixon just took his place,got the perfect run and just got the win.Meanwhile grant dixon finished full of running.

Do the stipes over there run a bit scared of upsetting the apple cart sometimes?

Mate, I can't agree with any of that.

Probably the most disappointing thing is you didn't read my post at the beginning of Chief Stipes Velocity Slot holders thread. (where I said who Solid Earth was ) and that they won our $500k Slot race in July. 🤣😂 I rely on you for sanity too 🤣

Grant Dixon is by FAR one of the most honest and reliable blokes racing. He has a very cushy time as far as dealing with owners go. He has about 80 in work and has 3 millionaire owners so barely has to chat to anyone about his horses (anyone being Questioning owners) . some stables with big syndicate owners the poor Trainers must spend 90% of their day filling in owners , when some of them they've never even met. What a nightmare that must be as you collect the money and give excuses, updates , blah blah . I suspect in NZ's leading stable Jenna would be doing that role. 

Picking on a team driving example seems pretty pointless in this argument. Although Stewards in Australia Are VERY GOOD and take no shit from the participants as you are making out. I know that many that are currently barred /restricted it's a wonder anyone is left racing 😆🤣

Legend John McCarthy currently DQ as well. 

As for 'Favouratism' for Grant.?? Bullshit mate. Trista did a one year DQ for changing ground in the home straight one time when star 50 win Trotter (another old Nz one) OUR OVERANOVA won a trot at Albion driven by Grant .there's  No Favouratism in a ONE YEAR DQ Mr Galah ? 😂😁

45 minutes ago, the galah said:

i think aussie is more dodgy than nz by far.

Australian stewards here got rid of VERY High profile cheats . so can't agree with that in the slightest my friend.  Gleesons, Webberleys, one of the fricken Halls is still out in WA, Hunter and Donahue in QLD (were top of the tree once) , Fitzpatricks . I think BY FAR you have that wrong. Inca proving Nz is weak as Piss in getting to the bottom of anything. Although they did nab McGrath , so some credit to someone I guess catching them out ?? 

It's (trotting training) All like a GOOD GAME of CRICKET mate. All good while you're getting the runs, but you tempt fate with a rash shot,  you could be caught out or Bowled at any old moment. 

 

[the galah]

2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Mate, I can't agree with any of that.

Probably the most disappointing thing is you didn't read my post at the beginning of Chief Stipes Velocity Slot holders thread. (where I said who Solid Earth was ) and that they won our $500k Slot race in July. 🤣😂 I rely on you for sanity too 🤣

Grant Dixon is by FAR one of the most honest and reliable blokes racing. He has a very cushy time as far as dealing with owners go. He has about 80 in work and has 3 millionaire owners so barely has to chat to anyone about his horses (anyone being Questioning owners) . some stables with big syndicate owners the poor Trainers must spend 90% of their day filling in owners , when some of them they've never even met. What a nightmare that must be as you collect the money and give excuses, updates , blah blah . I suspect in NZ's leading stable Jenna would be doing that role. 

Picking on a team driving example seems pretty pointless in this argument. Although Stewards in Australia Are VERY GOOD and take no shit from the participants as you are making out. I know that many that are currently barred /restricted it's a wonder anyone is left racing 😆🤣

Legend John McCarthy currently DQ as well. 

As for 'Favouratism' for Grant.?? Bullshit mate. Trista did a one year DQ for changing ground in the home straight one time when star 50 win Trotter (another old Nz one) OUR OVERANOVA won a trot at Albion driven by Grant .there's  No Favouratism in a ONE YEAR DQ Mr Galah ? 😂😁

Australian stewards here got rid of VERY High profile cheats . so can't agree with that in the slightest my friend.  Gleesons, Webberleys, one of the fricken Halls is still out in WA, Hunter and Donahue in QLD (were top of the tree once) , Fitzpatricks . I think BY FAR you have that wrong. Inca proving Nz is weak as Piss in getting to the bottom of anything. Although they did nab McGrath , so some credit to someone I guess catching them out ?? 

It's (trotting training) All like a GOOD GAME of CRICKET mate. All good while you're getting the runs, but you tempt fate with a rash shot,  you could be caught out or Bowled at any old moment. 

 

All i can say is put the race video up and let people make up their own minds.

The video speaks for itself.

Have you even watched the video?

 

 At the time i happened to tune in just before they started and picked that horse g dixon drove that went 3 back the fence,i had no money on it,then when he did that move to give the equal favorite sitting behind him the perfect run and him no chance,i immediately thought what on earth is g dixon doing,why on earth would he do that.

so i looked at the tab website while the race was on to see who it was he had gifted the perfect run to, at his own expense,and it turned out it was the horse in different colours driven by his wife that he also trained.

Like i say gammalite,if you put up the video it speaks for itself. I don't know how to do that ,otherwise i would.

I'll take your word that hes a great bloke.You know him .

But if you want punters to support the industry, they have to think everythings on the level.

As to who the owners were. Well now you have said that i had a look and its no other than the owners of leap to fame.

yes i did read your post about the slot races,but nothing about slot races ever sinks into my brain as i have no interest in those races whatsoever until the same week they are run,when i look at the field. I honestly can't even tell you what age of horse the nz slot races are for.I know ones a trot and ones a pace.

 

Edited September 30 by the galah

[Gammalite]

21 minutes ago, the galah said:

All i can say is put the race video up and let people make up their own minds.

The video speaks for itself.

Have you even watched the video?

 

 At the time i happened to tune in just before they started and picked that horse g dixon drove that went 3 back the fence,i had no money on it,then when he did that move to give the equal favorite sitting behind him the perfect run and him no chance,i immediately thought what on earth is g dixon doing,why on earth would he do that.

so i looked at the tab website while the race was on to see who it was he had gifted the perfect run to, at his own expense,and it turned out it was the horse in different colours driven by his wife that he also trained.

Like i say gammalite,if you put up the video it speaks for itself. I don't know how to do that ,otherwise i would.

I'll take your word that hes a great bloke.You know him .

But if you want punters to support the industry, they have to think everythings on the level.

As to who the owners were. Well now you have said that i had a look and its no other than the owners of leap to fame.

yes i did read your post about the slot races,but nothing about slot races ever sinks into my brain as i have no interest in those races whatsoever until the same week they are run,when i look at the field. I honestly can't even tell you what age of horse the nz slot races are for.I know ones a trot and ones a pace.

 

well I think we all know you would be a great stipendiary Steward as you spot a lot of stuff.

Not sure if race will download or not that you are worried about.

This high prize money race was also a qualifier for the EUREKA so they did really want FREE THINKER to win, and go to Menangle.

Sure , YOU are RIGHT , Grant Dixon dropped his horse out of the one-one sit trailing the favourite , to go down on the marker line 3 back. (clearly seen in the drone footage down the back straight with 1400m still to run. This allowed FREE THINKER to get the one-one and ultimately Win the race. 

So Grant ran 7th 4 lengths from the winner. Did he stop his horse winning ? I don't think so . There is someone 3 back on the fence with the 5th fav nearly every race lol. 😂. someone has to be there.

You can't expect the stewards to Throw the Book at a legend horseman with 4000 wins , just because he went 3 back the fence with 1400m  to go on the 5th fav ?? . you see WORSE things happen every race day. I love all the drivers. NZ and Oz.  they can't win all the time

Mr Galah , I'm actually going along to Albion Park tomorrow as have 'plenty' from the Brisbane Lions win. and Grant has 4 horses in the fast class Race 4.😅 ARODA won the Redcliffe Cup , ran 3rd in a Group 1, then ran in race behind the EUREKA winner at his last start. You could hitch him backwards in the sulky' and still beat this lot. 🤣 if he's paying $2 I'll be laughing and double some of my cash . only 8 starters too. so no Excuses Nor getting held up 3 back on the markers LOL😅 

I'll ask Grant what he thinks about The HAYDEN (the race you don't like what happened)  for you and let you know after tomorrow. I think he'll say "A wins a win" 😉🏆

 

[Gammalite]

On 9/30/2024 at 2:31 PM, the galah said:

,but nothing about slot races ever sinks into my brain as i have no interest in those races whatsoever until the same week they are run,when i look at the field. I honestly can't even tell you what age of horse the nz slot races are for.I know ones a trot and ones a pace.

Well they're only new . and will be quite exciting . Chief mentioned the Velocity (for 3 year old Pacers , All of whom will be preparing for the Nz Derby a few weeks later. the Cream of the Crop.

and I put up the Ascent thread (for 3 year old trotters ) as you may see one of the Best trotters ever at Addington if Keayang Zahara goes in a slot for the Lee family from Victoria. She is amazing.  

Maybe if Grant Dixon wins the NZ Cup with LEAP TO FAME he'll be back there next year with FATE AWAITS who won our 2 yearold slot race recently in 1.50.6. That's staggeringly fast for a 2 yearold.

Today . Grant just said was 'good drive by Trista' , regarding your complaint about the Hayden race video) the 4th horse in that race , the Favourite was FOR REAL LIFE  a QLD Sires Stakes Champion here Mr Galah). Having won the 2yearold and 3 yearold Triad Finals Group 1's . Free Thinker was in both those events too.  (might of run 2nd in one of them ,last year. )

AND About a month after the race in video here on 17th August -  FOR REAL LIFE Won the 4 yearold QLD Sires Triad Final too . beating Free Thinker into 3rd spot by no less than 7 lengths.

It was truly a great 'team effort' by the Dixon's to beat him in this race (The Hayden) you point out.. To defeat Dawson's Triad champion horse FOR Real Life.   Grant working it very hard early keeping it wide, and Trista attacking it 3 wide from the 400-500m out when she popped out of the 1-1. FOR REAL LIFE hammered in that one but he got his revenge (and is a triple Triad champion over them in the end )  All's well that ends well 😉

Hey !! this is a Korbyn Newman thread too 😂. See he has stuck the family horse in at Washdyke with another Junior Driver on this Friday night . Max Hill. Is He any good ?  SPECIAL EFFECTS for a special win ?

[Brodie]

2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Well they're only new . and will be quite exciting . Chief mentioned the Velocity (for 3 year old Pacers , All of whom will be preparing for the Nz Derby a few weeks later. the Cream of the Crop.

and I put up the Ascent thread (for 3 year old trotters ) as you may see one of the Best trotters ever at Addington if Keayang Zahara goes in a slot for the Lee family from Victoria. She is amazing.  

Maybe if Grant Dixon wins the NZ Cup with LEAP TO FAME he'll be back there next year with FATE AWAITS who won our 2 yearold slot race recently in 1.50.6. That's staggeringly fast for a 2 yearold.

Today . Grant just said was 'good drive by Trista' , regarding your complaint about the Hayden race video) the 4th horse in that race , the Favourite was FOR REAL LIFE  a QLD Sires Stakes Champion here Mr Galah). Having won the 2yearold and 3 yearold Triad Finals Group 1's . Free Thinker was in both those events too.  (might of run 2nd in one of them ,last year. )

AND About a month after the race in video here on 17th August -  FOR REAL LIFE Won the 4 yearold QLD Sires Triad Final too . beating Free Thinker into 3rd spot by no less than 7 lengths.

It was truly a great 'team effort' by the Dixon's to beat him in this race (The Hayden) you point out.. To defeat Dawson's Triad champion horse FOR Real Life.   Grant working it very hard early keeping it wide, and Trista attacking it 3 wide from the 400-500m out when she popped out of the 1-1. FOR REAL LIFE hammered in that one but he got his revenge (and is a triple Triad champion over them in the end )  All's well that ends well 😉

Hey !! this is a Korbyn Newman thread too 😂. See he has stuck the family horse in at Washdyke with another Junior Driver on this Friday night . Max Hill. Is He any good ?  SPECIAL EFFECTS for a special win ?

I love your enthusiasm Gamma for the group racing and tight class racing and Slot races.

Not sure too many Punters are as enthusiastic for these Slot races as you are, especially myself lol!

Not great punting races due to the number of starters and short odds that will be on offer!

We need you over here in NZ for the Promotions Man!

[Gammalite]

9 hours ago, Brodie said:

I love your enthusiasm Gamma for the group racing and tight class racing and Slot races.

Not sure too many Punters are as enthusiastic for these Slot races as you are, especially myself lol!

Not great punting races due to the number of starters and short odds that will be on offer!

We need you over here in NZ for the Promotions Man!

I think most (all) serious Punters are at the gallops Brodster. there's no point making a serious money investment at the TROTS as too much can go wrong. Personally I think the size of the fields is one of the main ones, but in the other direction to what you are thinking 🤣 I think smaller the better to increase your horses chances of winning , but you like Big fields. all good.

Thank you for kind words here. I fully admire your enthusiasm as well and often feel you are looking out for someone via having harness racing that can be bet on, Prizemoney allocated in certain ways to help participants,  and other aspects you mention. 

NevertheLEss, Anyway the SLOT races are coming in , and I view them as the New Interdominion. The format is too tough for the old style of the famous annual INTERDOMINION Championships that I loved (Gammalite won 2 of them lol 😅) with 3 heats then going into a final. New Zealand has had Very poor Attendance recently, with only Bolt For Brilliance and Majestic Man competing in the trotting section in recent years, game enough to go to Australia, for their great trainers. 

The SLOT races will NOT be kind in respect that for decades I have enjoyed NZ trainers/owners bringing their horses across to Mug the Aussie riches, and very occasionally a Star like LIGHTNING BLUE could go back there and nab an Interdominion GF and a NZ Cup like he did. 

JUST BELIEVE already cleaning up the Rowe Cup and inaugural SLOT Trot in the North earlier this year. The Aussies will win the 3 year old slot trot The ASCENT as well on show day. so in that regard the monies will be leaving NZ (along with the NZ Cup with LEAP TO FAME in all probability) as the Aussies , after the crunch win by SWAYZEE last year are moving in for the 'kill' . 

For so long , when Allstars were great for a decade, it was the other way round. 

Times are changing. 

 

[the galah]

19 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Well they're only new . and will be quite exciting . Chief mentioned the Velocity (for 3 year old Pacers , All of whom will be preparing for the Nz Derby a few weeks later. the Cream of the Crop.

and I put up the Ascent thread (for 3 year old trotters ) as you may see one of the Best trotters ever at Addington if Keayang Zahara goes in a slot for the Lee family from Victoria. She is amazing.  

Maybe if Grant Dixon wins the NZ Cup with LEAP TO FAME he'll be back there next year with FATE AWAITS who won our 2 yearold slot race recently in 1.50.6. That's staggeringly fast for a 2 yearold.

Today . Grant just said was 'good drive by Trista' , regarding your complaint about the Hayden race video) the 4th horse in that race , the Favourite was FOR REAL LIFE  a QLD Sires Stakes Champion here Mr Galah). Having won the 2yearold and 3 yearold Triad Finals Group 1's . Free Thinker was in both those events too.  (might of run 2nd in one of them ,last year. )

AND About a month after the race in video here on 17th August -  FOR REAL LIFE Won the 4 yearold QLD Sires Triad Final too . beating Free Thinker into 3rd spot by no less than 7 lengths.

It was truly a great 'team effort' by the Dixon's to beat him in this race (The Hayden) you point out.. To defeat Dawson's Triad champion horse FOR Real Life.   Grant working it very hard early keeping it wide, and Trista attacking it 3 wide from the 400-500m out when she popped out of the 1-1. FOR REAL LIFE hammered in that one but he got his revenge (and is a triple Triad champion over them in the end )  All's well that ends well 😉

Hey !! this is a Korbyn Newman thread too 😂. See he has stuck the family horse in at Washdyke with another Junior Driver on this Friday night . Max Hill. Is He any good ?  SPECIAL EFFECTS for a special win ?

Interesting you talking about grant dixon.

Very early on you labelled Leap to fame as potentially the best in australia,i think it was when he was an early 3 year old and before he got on his nationwide roll.Because of that we have always followed him since. My wife always makes a point of watching all his races and she always knocks on the bedroom wall to let me know when hes running when i'm watching something in the lounge.

we've come to admire the horse,his great looks and the outstanding way he covers the ground and his will to win and racing style.

And we admire him and grant dixon for other reasons as well.

For a start the Dixons train many horses of differing talents and you see them racing at mid week redcliffe meetings as well as albion park. To me they and the horse are relateable to your everyday harness racing enthusiast.

also when you look at him racing he doesn't have the help of 3 or 4 other drivers driving from the same stable helping him out tactically.The race we discussed earlier was an example of that happening,but it doesn't apply to Leap to fame.

also,i think if you watch all the horses trained by G Dixon,you can tell they don't run with any special performance enhancers to assist them,and thats part of the reason everyone who follows Leap to fame enjoys watching every one of his wins.Because he can overcome the odds.I hope his owners ,the seymours,keep him racing for a few seasons more and that he stays sound and healthy. 

i think leap to fame and just believe, should be what this years nz cup week should be promoted around. The slot races may be interesting for some,but getting a chance to watch Leap to fame in the flesh is an opportunity that only happens rarely.

Edited October 2 by the galah

[Brodie]

6 hours ago, Gammalite said:

I think most (all) serious Punters are at the gallops Brodster. there's no point making a serious money investment at the TROTS as too much can go wrong. Personally I think the size of the fields is one of the main ones, but in the other direction to what you are thinking 🤣 I think smaller the better to increase your horses chances of winning , but you like Big fields. all good.

Thank you for kind words here. I fully admire your enthusiasm as well and often feel you are looking out for someone via having harness racing that can be bet on, Prizemoney allocated in certain ways to help participants,  and other aspects you mention. 

NevertheLEss, Anyway the SLOT races are coming in , and I view them as the New Interdominion. The format is too tough for the old style of the famous annual INTERDOMINION Championships that I loved (Gammalite won 2 of them lol 😅) with 3 heats then going into a final. New Zealand has had Very poor Attendance recently, with only Bolt For Brilliance and Majestic Man competing in the trotting section in recent years, game enough to go to Australia, for their great trainers. 

The SLOT races will NOT be kind in respect that for decades I have enjoyed NZ trainers/owners bringing their horses across to Mug the Aussie riches, and very occasionally a Star like LIGHTNING BLUE could go back there and nab an Interdominion GF and a NZ Cup like he did. 

JUST BELIEVE already cleaning up the Rowe Cup and inaugural SLOT Trot in the North earlier this year. The Aussies will win the 3 year old slot trot The ASCENT as well on show day. so in that regard the monies will be leaving NZ (along with the NZ Cup with LEAP TO FAME in all probability) as the Aussies , after the crunch win by SWAYZEE last year are moving in for the 'kill' . 

For so long , when Allstars were great for a decade, it was the other way round. 

Times are changing. 

 

Personally wouldn’t touch punting on Gallops to be making money.

just too hard  to follow form and so many different types of tracks.

Personally dont know an restricted gallops punters but do know other harness punters that are restricted.
Harness on the other hand is not that hard to make good money if you are prepared to put in timed are astute and methodical.

Edited October 2 by Brodie

[Gammalite]

8 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Personally wouldn’t touch punting on Gallops to be making money.

just too hard  to follow form and so many different types of tracks.

Personally dont know an restricted gallops punters but do know other harness punters that are restricted.
Harness on the other hand is not that hard to make good money if you are prepared to put in timed are astute and methodical.

you're a very rare breed . and got good results from being quite astute. most aren't 🤣

NZ gallops are a little tricky. but I just follow jockeys I like mainly. Am nicely in front on a jockey I followed through his apprenticeship in Victoria 2 years ago , when made stacks. Today I had a tenner each on him in race 3 on Bourbon Empress and he got up by a nose. Matty Cartwright is a little ripper 😁💰. Just hoping he wins on Wolfgang in the next just quietly 🤞 

[Gammalite]

5 hours ago, the galah said:

Interesting you talking about grant dixon.

Very early on you labelled Leap to fame as potentially the best in australia,i think it was when he was an early 3 year old and before he got on his nationwide roll.Because of that we have always followed him since. My wife always makes a point of watching all his races and she always knocks on the bedroom wall to let me know when hes running when i'm watching something in the lounge.

we've come to admire the horse,his great looks and the outstanding way he covers the ground and his will to win and racing style.

And we admire him and grant dixon for other reasons as well.

For a start the Dixons train many horses of differing talents and you see them racing at mid week redcliffe meetings as well as albion park. To me they and the horse are relateable to your everyday harness racing enthusiast.

also when you look at him racing he doesn't have the help of 3 or 4 other drivers driving from the same stable helping him out tactically.The race we discussed earlier was an example of that happening,but it doesn't apply to Leap to fame.

also,i think if you watch all the horses trained by G Dixon,you can tell they don't run with any special performance enhancers to assist them,and thats part of the reason everyone who follows Leap to fame enjoys watching every one of his wins.Because he can overcome the odds.I hope his owners ,the seymours,keep him racing for a few seasons more and that he stays sound and healthy. 

i think leap to fame and just believe, should be what this years nz cup week should be promoted around. The slot races may be interesting for some,but getting a chance to watch Leap to fame in the flesh is an opportunity that only happens rarely.

Yes,  and before him I had labelled EXPENSIVE EGO here 4 years ago (that no-one had heard of) as a 3 yearold who will go on be the Best in the Nation. He nearly did. He won the prize Chariots of Fire as 4 year old and ran 2nd in the Miracle Mile to his Illustrious stable-mate KING OF SWING.

Expensive Ego nearly won the Interdominion then, to be best of 2 Nations , but was relegated to 2nd placing after being first past the post. The unlucky bugger. King of Swing becoming the best in the land for a couple of years instead (with 3 Miracle Mile wins) . Expensive Ego recently retired after 25 wins from 57 starts and a Million earned. 

LEAP TO FAME , is the current Interdominion Champion and top of the tree. whatta beauty he is. 

and yes Grant mucks around with 2 many slow horses at Redcliffe and that , but  ALAS 2 of his 3 millionaire owners breed them so he is stuck with them 🙄 . The other owner Greg Mitchell just buys them from NZ. he had our star trotter Our Overanova from there for a few years. must of been 50 wins . 

And here's a real funny one. Greg recently bought the North Island maiden BEV THE GOAT . 😅😂 what a funny name (used to give it to Chief in the comps lol) It didn't win there all last year and this year for 24 starts. was bit of a goat ? lol 😂

BUT it Won at Albion for Grant  last Friday as the $1.10 favourite. So we are pretty weak here , or they are strong maidens there at Cambridge lol. (probably the later as good trainers there at Cambridge winning yesterday)  'Bev The Goat'. goodness me. hope it doesn't go Metro class 😂

 

[the galah]

13 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Yes,  and before him I had labelled EXPENSIVE EGO here 4 years ago (that no-one had heard of) as a 3 yearold who will go on be the Best in the Nation. He nearly did. He won the prize Chariots of Fire as 4 year old and ran 2nd in the Miracle Mile to his Illustrious stable-mate KING OF SWING.

Expensive Ego nearly won the Interdominion then, to be best of 2 Nations , but was relegated to 2nd placing after being first past the post. The unlucky bugger. King of Swing becoming the best in the land for a couple of years instead (with 3 Miracle Mile wins) . Expensive Ego recently retired after 25 wins from 57 starts and a Million earned. 

LEAP TO FAME , is the current Interdominion Champion and top of the tree. whatta beauty he is. 

and yes Grant mucks around with 2 many slow horses at Redcliffe and that , but  ALAS 2 of his 3 millionaire owners breed them so he is stuck with them 🙄 . The other owner Greg Mitchell just buys them from NZ. he had our star trotter Our Overanova from there for a few years. must of been 50 wins . 

And here's a real funny one. Greg recently bought the North Island maiden BEV THE GOAT . 😅😂 what a funny name (used to give it to Chief in the comps lol) It didn't win there all last year and this year for 24 starts. was bit of a goat ? lol 😂

BUT it Won at Albion for Grant  last Friday as the $1.10 favourite. So we are pretty weak here , or they are strong maidens there at Cambridge lol. (probably the later as good trainers there at Cambridge winning yesterday)  'Bev The Goat'. goodness me. hope it doesn't go Metro class 😂

 

when you say g dixon mucks around with too many slow ones at redcliffe,to me thats just an indication of how much he enjoys the horses,the people and the industry as a whole,no matter what the level.And the same must apply to his owners as they must be happy paying  the bills.

Also by him having a cross section of all levels of horses it indicates that he is making use of and being kind to the horses being bred instead of just sacking them because they may just be a redcliffe horse. Also it seems your programming of races sees many of the redcliffe lower grades often racing at albion park at different stages of their careers.

Bev the goat was a horse i followed at a couple of stages. It went some handy races here and they even tried taking it to manawatu to get a win,but it didn't quite manage it.Wouldn't surprise me if it turned into a handy earner over there.Her trainer in nz,dave mcgown has a far better strike rate with his trotters than pacers. In the last 5 years i see hes had about 170 starts with pacers for 3 wins and 29 placings. You have to consider that would mostly be in fields with small numbers starting.he seems to focus more on his trotters and does well with them.

Edited October 2 by the galah

[Gammalite]

3 hours ago, the galah said:

when you say g dixon mucks around with too many slow ones at redcliffe,to me thats just an indication of how much he enjoys the horses,the people and the industry as a whole,no matter what the level.And the same must apply to his owners as they must be happy paying  the bills.

Also by him having a cross section of all levels of horses it indicates that he is making use of and being kind to the horses being bred instead of just sacking them because they may just be a redcliffe horse. Also it seems your programming of races sees many of the redcliffe lower grades often racing at albion park at different stages of their careers.

Bev the goat was a horse i followed at a couple of stages. It went some handy races here and they even tried taking it to manawatu to get a win,but it didn't quite manage it.Wouldn't surprise me if it turned into a handy earner over there.Her trainer in nz,dave mcgown has a far better strike rate with his trotters than pacers. In the last 5 years i see hes had about 170 starts with pacers for 3 wins and 29 placings. You have to consider that would mostly be in fields with small numbers starting.he seems to focus more on his trotters and does well with them.

Is an interesting choice. The really really slow ones are in today. Every Thursday. So Grant will send the very slowest of his large team along with the stable Junior driver today. 5 horses. and won't bother going himself as preparing the Metro class horses at home for weekend racing.

Bills not an issue with that stable with Multi millionaire owners (3 of them) . they're all just having fun. And I never begrudge Seymour winners as he has saved Albion Park from ruin many times and kept the game going, when could of collapsed like Auckland. (plus Albion Park not worth much as it floods lol 🤣)  not called 'The Creek' for nothing .

But he and Natalie 'Cut the Mustard' driving these slow ones for many years , and learning to drive at the premium possible level by having 5 drives every day. I'm sure Dexter did the same there. Now the world's best. 

PLUS Redcliffe has had just 9 horse fields for past 2 years+ . So law of averages says you win a race every 9 starts. (once every 2 months) so you can pay your way.  even the very slow ones. that is important. But certainly creates NOT a great betting medium , as the horse ratings system pits those of equal ability at that moment in time against each other weekly in each race. Therefore anyone can win really. 

NZ trotting is great to watch (with the good drivers and tactics and that) but BIG fields like Addington today , make it hard to pick a winner. they need a LOT of luck and a wing and a prayer. It's very hard to win there. BEV THE GOAT we were just talking about,  a great example of how hard it is to win even a maiden race in the NI, let alone the SI.

footnote:  I wasn't criticising it's (Bev The Goat)  Nz trainer at all. I was actually praising how good I think the opponents are, like Chilcott, and Ray Green , Donnolly, Doody etc., they all do a good job really and hope they keep at it. I see old mate Mike Berger finally chucked it in too.  

[Rangatira]

On 30/09/2024 at 3:09 PM, Gammalite said:

 

All like a GOOD GAME of CRICKET mate. 

 

Piggy on the Money

“I thought it was most appropriate that the Australian team was dressed in yellow,” Muldoon sniped.

Edited October 3 by Rangatira

[Gammalite]

32 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Piggy on the Money

“I thought it was most appropriate that the Australian team was dressed in yellow,” Muldoon sniped.

Ya Livin in the past Ranga. Most of these bloke probably dead or old drunks by now .

And it's GOLD mate . not yellow 😁😉  as in GOLD Cup winners 🏆. (as in nice photo below)

New Zealand form hasn't improved any either ???.  what's going on ? 

No NZ One Day World Cup wins at all yet ? (although ripped off by the Poms 2019 in the Final)

Here's the sweet memory from a Just a YEAR ago my friend. To cheer you up from those childhood memories of Chappell backyard plays.

2023 World Cup Champions (the 6th world Cup win ). i've had to pull a hand out of my pocket to try and keep counting, there's so Many now 😂 )

  nearly tied with NZ in that Cup. with both teams scoring nearly 400 runs too. What a Day that was !!!  

[Rangatira]

3 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

what's going on ? 

what on earth was Greg Chappell thinking ???

did he think it was Trafalgar Park with Graham "Jock" Edwards on strike ?

My money is on "he wasn't"

[Gammalite]

think we might have had a 'fitness' edge by the look of that bloke . 😉

'Thinking' not a strong point of the Oz cricketers Ranga . Good bit of drinking and smoking and betting  more the go for AB, Warnie, big bad Booney , Big Max , Big Merv , markWaugh, Big Haydos, Big AndrewSymonds ,  and a few of their other mates last century.

actually , might Scratch that Fitness edge claim 😆