Murray Fish Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Those metricd were influenced by Wesrburys decision to put their lots on the market with no reserve. correct to say not a great sale for them? i note in the lead up Cambridge Stud sad they were not going to have reserve prices, but didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 37 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: correct to say not a great sale for them? Depends what their objective was. They've cleared a lot of yearlings off their property so don't have to carry them anymore nor spend hours trying to sell or place them somewhere else. Perhaps they have a new strategy - Studs that have been round for a long time have quite a ruthless approach to culling non-performing or marketable stock. They aren't emotionally attached! Also many overlook the cost structure for a stud. The largely own all their assets, put their own mares to their own stallions and have bloodstock taxation write off's. So the sales margin for them is a lot different to Joe Breeder in Taihape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Depends what their objective was. I think you might have reflected well on Wes... 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: and have bloodstock taxation write off's. lol, it would make interesting reading to see that sort of stuff!! ps, the old 'vanity project' is often at play in the modern world of horse racing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Murray Fish said: I think you might have reflected well on Wes... lol, it would make interesting reading to see that sort of stuff!! ps, the old 'vanity project' is often at play in the modern world of horse racing! Westbury are running a business. They have high end products and low end products. Hard work being a private breeder not running it as a taxable entity. Otherwise you are relying on windfall luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Westbury are running a business. They have high end products and low end products. What is currently their high end business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, Huey said: What is currently their high end business? Why ask a question that you already know the answer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Why ask a question that you already know the answer to? Why state something you know isn't currently accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Huey said: Why state something you know isn't currently accurate? What did I say that wasn't accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What did I say that wasn't accurate? What are their high end products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, Huey said: What are their high end products? Isn't that obvious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Do you think the Canterbury Jockey Club might be looking for a backup for Domain Ace after todays race at Tauranga? Did anyone else see Tim Mills on track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Do you think the Canterbury Jockey Club might be looking for a backup for Domain Ace after todays race at Tauranga? Did anyone else see Tim Mills on track? Surely it's too good of a deal with Rogerson to let go of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Huey said: Surely it's too good of a deal with Rogerson to let go of. Who do you think would be most embarrassed? CJC for going with a horse who appears to have little chance, or ARC and NZTR for having a horse with little chance in the race when potentially a genuine contender might miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Won't be a strong field. Might get a cheque? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Doomed said: Who do you think would be most embarrassed? CJC for going with a horse who appears to have little chance, or ARC and NZTR for having a horse with little chance in the race when potentially a genuine contender might miss out. It all looks a bit embarrassing at the moment, I still can't work out how its supposed to benefit NZ racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I wonder if Hitabell might get a look-in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 Had there have been no scratchings(even without the scratchings it probably is) today in the Uncle Remus Stakes its arguable that race would have put together a better field than the NZB Kiwi appears to have and they are racing for $110k. As I said on another thread they have Wightman and Selangor TC to thank for adding at least a twist to the race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 57 minutes ago, Huey said: As I said on another thread they have Wightman and Selangor TC to thank for adding at least a twist to the race. So there is a difference in the type of hype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: So there is a difference in the type of hype? He said twist, not hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Doomed said: He said twist, not hype. Well in another post he says "saved"! Twist, hype same difference. In marketing, a "twist" refers to a deliberate manipulation of information or language to present a product or service in a misleading or deceptive way, often by subtly altering the meaning of facts or using ambiguous language to create a false impression, essentially "twisting" the message to benefit the seller; it's considered an unethical practice in marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted Friday at 11:30 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:30 PM 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Well in another post he says "saved"! Twist, hype same difference. In marketing, a "twist" refers to a deliberate manipulation of information or language to present a product or service in a misleading or deceptive way, often by subtly altering the meaning of facts or using ambiguous language to create a false impression, essentially "twisting" the message to benefit the seller; it's considered an unethical practice in marketing Absolute snorefest of a race without PT in it. Next year and the year after no problem as we will have your TA horse in it somewhere, take your time to tell us which one we are following throughout the season , plenty of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago It's getting exciting now a full field ...wow! The real excitement however lies with Wightman, will he show on course? So many angles to this prestigious race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Huey said: It's getting exciting now a full field ...wow! The real excitement however lies with Wightman, will he show on course? So many angles to this prestigious race! We get what you think of the race but you are becoming boring. Do you have a different record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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