Brodie Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Harness racing in Canterbury is in fir s busy week. Addington on Friday night 127 nominations Motukarara Saturday 194 Noms Methven Sunday 159 noms Compare this to the north Island and it does show where the strength surely is for harness racing! Auckland with much larger stakes on offer has only 87 starters and only 9 races! What is it that makes canterbury so much more popular than the North Island? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatchcock Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Brodie said: Harness racing in Canterbury is in fir s busy week. Addington on Friday night 127 nominations Motukarara Saturday 194 Noms Methven Sunday 159 noms Compare this to the north Island and it does show where the strength surely is for harness racing! Auckland with much larger stakes on offer has only 87 starters and only 9 races! What is it that makes canterbury so much more popular than the North Island? How many times are you going to post the same thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Spatchcock said: How many times are you going to post the same thing? As long as you are prepared to read it SpatchCock! You live in the North, what do you see as the reason for the apathy in the North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Spatchcock said: How many times are you going to post the same thing? Many,like myself consider bit of a yarn a tool to balance what i would call the 'propoganda",that comes out of hrnz and often the media.A means of facilitating our voices,of sorts. Propoganda is defined as"communication used to influence or persuade, to further an agenda which may not be objective, and is selectively promoting facts to encourage a perception,often by using reptition and language which produces an emotional rather than rational response". in this case the subject matter is the auckland trotting club. We have been told repeatedly by hrnz and the harness racing media of the importnace and significance of auckland and the necessity to subsidize auckland harness racing ,for the betterment of harness racing in nz as a whole. In other words we are constanly being subjected to propoganda to further the auckland agenda, which we view as irrational. so the likes of brodie,or me,and others chip away at providing what we believe is balance. So,for me, that is what i consider to be the answer to the question you pose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Compare this to the north Island and it does show where the strength surely is for harness racing! North has a fine tradition just as the South. ???? Why should they 'cave in' when you have great players like Barry Purdon winning the NZ FFA and Velocity recently, Ray Green winning the NZ Cup twice recently (before the Aussies) , One of the greatest harness men ever seen in Tony Herlihy driving and training, The Butcher Team , outstanding horsepeople like The Neals, The Hacketts, McGowans, the Fergusons , the Blanchards the Cooneys, Arna Donnely doing great job lately . I'd argue the Better Strength Is in the North . 👍🏆 you guys a bit weak down there lately 😅🤣 TABman would argue that Oscar B is a northerner now ? along with Mark😋. and he saved the day beating Just Believe . go the Northerner !!! lol. 1 hour ago, the galah said: We have been told repeatedly by hrnz and the harness racing media of the importnace and significance of auckland and the necessity to subsidize auckland harness racing ,for the betterment of harness racing in nz as a whole. In other words we are constanly being subjected to propoganda to further the auckland agenda, which we view as irrational. Propaganda a Poor Choice of word outside of War-fare lol...😉 Of course Auckland is struggling with the debt. . BUT You don't just kick a wounded dog and let it die ???. You get motivated with ideas to 'Save the Beast' and keep it going. It's IRRATIONAL Not to help out . Of Course they should be Subsidised with as much as HRNZ can give . And Support All those amazing People who Put The Face on our great sport over decades. grizzling because there's more players in the South Island each week ???? for goodness guys . always has been. but have some respect for the players and their owners in the North. and the horses. The harness racing is Good to Have in BOTH Islands. ya all sound like North Korea v South Korea or something 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Propaganda a Poor Choice of word outside of War-fare lol...😉 no its not. Every element of the definition ofthe word propoganda exists if you read or listen to what we are being fed.I can be more specific if you like. You know you talk about personalities and people you respect in the north island,as if we have criticised them or undermined them. Yet nothing brodie or i have written on this topic has ever been negative or detrimantal towards industry participants as relates to the number of starters or the auckland clubs financal woes. when brodie talks about strength in his posting on this topic,its very obviously talking about horse and industry participant numbers. all you are doing is deflecting from facts presented relating to horse numbers,public following and financial matters. I guess you don't talk about the subject matter we talk about because the numbers don't lie,so deflecting is what your left with. when you say its not irrational to help out. i agree. We disagree on the rationality of the help being offered. I believe you are basing your point of view around emotional thoughts,obviously influenced by your lifes experiences involving north island harness racing and the personalities involved. i do love the fact that you are still so passionate about north island harness racing and we need to hear from people like yourself. All i'm saying,is decisions have to be made on data and facts and balance sheets. I believe its wrong for you to infer that the very people you talk about,will be worse off if decisions made are based on the things i've just mentioned,when logic says they will be better off. Short term thinking will undermine long term survival. Edited 1 hour ago by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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