Reefton Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Now Winnie I know the rumours are circulating about your health but can you not remember that you want to sell off the Reefton Race course? So why the hell are you giving it $13k out of the Racing Safety Development fund to fix the tote and tearooms roof? Is this sensible use of industry funds? And what will your puppet masters in the Waikato elite have to say about it? Methinks they will not be impressed 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) Winnie is busy making Christmas puddings, and has a very important job making sure the brandy is up to scratch. Now, surely you must recall that under the umbrella of 'Rita' , NZTR and NZRB will become defunct. Clearly then, NZTR is busy dishing out as much dosh as it can for Christmas presents before it no longer exists... which is why you have been given money to repair the roof. Winnie has also created ' Mac ' so Rita has a sparring buddy. Selling off racecourses is now in the too-hard basket...so synthetic tracks are the latest talking point. The Cambridge one is underway we are led to believe.... but the amount of 30m originally set aside for three - apparently - seems to have reduced to 13m with funding from the RB to be included...presumably from yet more borrowing. Wonder what J.M is thinking about now? Edited December 12, 2018 by Freda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 It will be a very CRAPPY CAKE if Whisky Winn is involved 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horseboy Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Freda said: Winnie is busy making Christmas puddings, and has a very important job making sure the brandy is up to scratch. Now, surely you must recall that under the umbrella of 'Rita' , NZTR and NZRB will become defunct. Clearly then, NZTR is busy dishing out as much dosh as it can for Christmas presents before it no longer exists... which is why you have been given money to repair the roof. Winnie has also created ' Mac ' so Rita has a sparring buddy. Selling off racecourses is now in the too-hard basket...so synthetic tracks are the latest talking point. The Cambridge one is underway we are led to believe.... but the amount of 30m originally set aside for three - apparently - seems to have reduced to 13m with funding from the RB to be included...presumably from yet more borrowing. Wonder what J.M is thinking about now? i think you have misunderstood the purpose of Rita if you believe it will make NZTR defunct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Horseboy said: i think you have misunderstood the purpose of Rita if you believe it will make NZTR defunct. If Rita - as per her advertised function - oversees the formation of Racing NZ and Wagering NZ from the NZRB and NZTR, then, by definition, it is defunct, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think the RSDF is administered by Internal affairs and(I know) the Reefton money came from the Trotting Club's application so would have had the support of HRNZ rather than NZTR(after the lies they told about the starting gates we would never bother asking NZTR to support any application of ours) But it is still an appalling case of one hand having no idea what the other is doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Freda said: Winnie is busy making Christmas puddings, and has a very important job making sure the brandy is up to scratch. Now, surely you must recall that under the umbrella of 'Rita' , NZTR and NZRB will become defunct. Clearly then, NZTR is busy dishing out as much dosh as it can for Christmas presents before it no longer exists... which is why you have been given money to repair the roof. Winnie has also created ' Mac ' so Rita has a sparring buddy. Selling off racecourses is now in the too-hard basket...so synthetic tracks are the latest talking point. The Cambridge one is underway we are led to believe.... but the amount of 30m originally set aside for three - apparently - seems to have reduced to 13m with funding from the RB to be included...presumably from yet more borrowing. Wonder what J.M is thinking about now? How the hell can the Cambridge one be underway? Where's it being built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman's Been Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Seriously Chief....keep up with the play will ya!!! The new setup is the old Whakanui Stud. As you can see everything is hunky dory and trackwork starts next week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horseboy Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, Freda said: If Rita - as per her advertised function - oversees the formation of Racing NZ and Wagering NZ from the NZRB and NZTR, then, by definition, it is defunct, surely? Racing NZ is a forum that all three codes sit on. NZTR will still exist as will the other two code bodies, they will take over all functions from the NZRB that are not considered directly related to wagering/broadcasting. Racing NZ will likely be where the codes come together and work on issues of shared importance (calendar, Wagering NZ oversight etc etc). NZTR however will still have full autonomy over the Thoroughbred Code and under the new setup will have a significantly greatly independence over the codes administration. well that's how i read it anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: How the hell can the Cambridge one be underway? Where's it being built? Racecourse Rd I presume "Plans are already well advanced for the construction of a synthetic track at Cambridge and, subject to funding being agreed, construction could commence next January with training to start from no later than May and racing from no later than July/August 2019. Aside from racing, the proposed synthetic track at Cambridge is vital for its training needs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Horseboy said: Racing NZ is a forum that all three codes sit on. NZTR will still exist as will the other two code bodies, they will take over all functions from the NZRB that are not considered directly related to wagering/broadcasting. Racing NZ will likely be where the codes come together and work on issues of shared importance (calendar, Wagering NZ oversight etc etc). NZTR however will still have full autonomy over the Thoroughbred Code and under the new setup will have a significantly greatly independence over the codes administration. well that's how i read it anyway... Racing NZ There are several facets of racing administration where the Codes will need to act collectively for the efficient operation of the overall Racing Industry. These include: • Entering into commercial arrangements with Wagering NZ • Development of racing calendar in conjunction with Wagering NZ • Approving budgets, plans and administrative support for the JCA, RIU and the Laboratory where required. 17 • Consulting with Wagering NZ on whole of industry issues such as Betting Rules, and financial support of the NZ Equine Research Foundation and the Equine Health Association. To effectively manage these functions, it is recommended that the Codes participate in a body named Racing NZ. This body would not be established as a separate administrative body but would merely act as a consultative forum between the Codes. It would not be empowered to act unilaterally without the approval of the Codes. Based on the relative size of the Codes it could consist of a Board of 4 Directors as follows: • Two (2) members nominated by NZTR one of whom is to be Chair with a casting vote • One (1) Member nominated by HRNZ • One (1) Member nominated by GRNZ This body could be serviced administratively by each of the Codes on a rotation basis or in accordance with such other arrangements as agreed between the Codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 23 hours ago, Horseboy said: i think you have misunderstood the purpose of Rita if you believe it will make NZTR defunct. Lovely Rita, metres made, where would racing be without you ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Give me winx and make me think of hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Interesting....after all of the fuck ups labour has made in 12 months...a few= kiwibuild-can't give the houses away....criminals=love to have you living here boys, free tertiary education=$50 million wasted, people who never turned up or failed rudimentary courses, minister assaulting staff, on and on....now nobody will admit to voting labour...just like its hard ( apart from Tommo) to find anyone who voted for peters...I sure didn't. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Horseboy said: Racing NZ is a forum that all three codes sit on. NZTR will still exist as will the other two code bodies, they will take over all functions from the NZRB that are not considered directly related to wagering/broadcasting. Racing NZ will likely be where the codes come together and work on issues of shared importance (calendar, Wagering NZ oversight etc etc). NZTR however will still have full autonomy over the Thoroughbred Code and under the new setup will have a significantly greatly independence over the codes administration. well that's how i read it anyway... You may well be right...so...as WELL as the three codes, we have Racing NZ too...instead of a slimmed down and efficient body, we instead have an extra one? Presumably the RB will be slim and efficient..? No? Dear oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kopia said: Interesting....after all of the fuck ups labour has made in 12 months...a few= kiwibuild-can't give the houses away....criminals=love to have you living here boys, free tertiary education=$50 million wasted, people who never turned up or failed rudimentary courses, minister assaulting staff, on and on....now nobody will admit to voting labour...just like its hard ( apart from Tommo) to find anyone who voted for peters...I sure didn't. ? What is the problem with free tertiary education? Its funny how most complaining about this, are the ones that had free uni in the old days. I am not labour fan, but i do agree with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I don't. It would have more benefit if it applied to the third year of study, not the first...many first years will only ever be that..so money wasted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 what about all the money Labour has wasted on the new flag...and all the money they have given to the Clinton Foundation ??????????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Getting this topic back on track - excuse the pun. So we are going to get a new poly track to train and eventually race on in Cambridge. Aside from the many downsides of a poly track in terms of horse welfare we are now going to INCREASE the number of race tracks! Is Te Rapa going to shift their grandstand, stables and other facilities to Cambridge or are they going to build new ones? How many abandoned meetings will this new track save? I suggest zero or one at most. Meanwhile nothing has been done on the revenue side to make any of the existing tracks sustainable let alone a brand new one!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Getting this topic back on track - excuse the pun. So we are going to get a new poly track to train and eventually race on in Cambridge. Aside from the many downsides of a poly track in terms of horse welfare we are now going to INCREASE the number of race tracks! Is Te Rapa going to shift their grandstand, stables and other facilities to Cambridge or are they going to build new ones? How many abandoned meetings will this new track save? I suggest zero or one at most. Meanwhile nothing has been done on the revenue side to make any of the existing tracks sustainable let alone a brand new one!!!! If you look at Pg 76 of the Messara report, there is Capex forecast for 19/20 of 10 mil for the track and 1 mil for facilities at Cambridge. Now what is 1 mil going to get you in facilities. All very hard to understand this Cambridge racing thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, hesi said: If you look at Pg 76 of the Messara report, there is Capex forecast for 19/20 of 10 mil for the track and 1 mil for facilities at Cambridge. Now what is 1 mil going to get you in facilities. All very hard to understand this Cambridge racing thing A block of stables to house safely the horses on raceday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 A few tents? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Bernard Saundry assured us at Oamaru that Cambridge had the $4m itself and the deal was full steam ahead once the PGF money was confirmed. And that the aim was not to attract on course attendance but to provide racing product to the TAB AS WELL AS to facilitate NZ horses getting ready for Aussie in the Spring Course I suppose once Winnie's little NZ racing utopia fires up nobody will want to go to Aussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 They are going to build a track from scratch for $4m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, curious said: They are going to build a track from scratch for $4m? No but with Mr Jones' extra $6m they are planning to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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