pete Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 How good was that? More of this sort of stuff needed. Just a fun thing and you could see how much the trainers and jockeys enjoyed it. Sam's waiting for her ride apparently ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It really is a no brainer - more if it please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Outstanding stuff alright.. Only prob was Dimples thought he was riding home a Harley Davison... ...less horse power those mash hines...Danny will notice less thrust for sure But Sammy won't give a f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 not that it matters but it is a copy of the Gold coast Turf Club on Hollindale Cup Day - Kris Lees won one there in May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitman Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Any chance of a Honda at Reefton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pitman said: Any chance of a Honda at Reefton We may as well give a Honda away because people in the know tell me the new dates schedule(2019/20) doesn't include a meeting at Reefton. Nor Hokitika - Greymouth reprieved with one day and Kumara two. I think Bernard's visit six weeks or so ago might have saved Greymouth's bacon when he realised the true Kumara position Edited December 17, 2018 by Reefton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Sorry but I disagree with all of you. Trainers have ample ways & means to fund their lifestyles ... this is just taking the piss. I feel exactly,the same about the Mooney Valley 55Sec Challenge.... Racing is struggling to maintain owners....and this is just thumbing in their face. Poor look Ellerslie...what about the people who put their hands in their effing pocket every month to put this measly show on ? What about the exhorbitant pay ups required to run in a $50k race? Its not going to make one iota of difference to whether a trainer will run a horse in a certain race or not...because there are no bloody choices. That’s the final straw for me.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 One final word....why couldn’t the sponsor donate the bike to the injured jockeys fund....remember Maija Vance...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, MaltedMilkshake said: One final word....why couldn’t the sponsor donate the bike to the injured jockeys fund....remember Maija Vance...? Wasn't aware of any 'bike' promo....so can't comment...but pretty sure there is no Injured Jockeys' fund now - was once - but not now in this day of ACC. There are still odd, special payments on an individual as-needs basis..but not a fund that I am aware of, or certainly not one of any significance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 hours ago, MaltedMilkshake said: Sorry but I disagree with all of you. Trainers have ample ways & means to fund their lifestyles ... this is just taking the piss. I feel exactly,the same about the Mooney Valley 55Sec Challenge.... Racing is struggling to maintain owners....and this is just thumbing in their face. Poor look Ellerslie...what about the people who put their hands in their effing pocket every month to put this measly show on ? What about the exhorbitant pay ups required to run in a $50k race? Its not going to make one iota of difference to whether a trainer will run a horse in a certain race or not...because there are no bloody choices. That’s the final straw for me.... I see your point , but its like everything in racing in this country its done to benefit about 5 trainers and thats about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I agree with MM, this promo totally farks me off, the poor buggers entering their horses get the bills regardless. The owner has become the kicking dog from all angles in the industry, I wont be buying anything this year at the sales or future ones until stakes double from where they are now. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 46 minutes ago, barryb said: ... until stakes double from where they are now. What are you smoking? Can you send me some? Only hope is to borrow more money or steal it from the taxpayer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Lots of money sloshing around, most of it being used to run the RB, so you have to put a little bit of faith in the outsourcing the TAB might return a lot more money to the stakeholders....if not, why do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Many of these country tracks have Trainers prizes.... East Coast Ngati for example...did Rodgy and Myers give all their owners a cut...or travelling discount? Maybe Dimples will do the same after targeting 4 of his... The highest Biker death rates are from old f'ers reliving their desire to be cool... ...by getting a Harley... Marshy is already cool az...so he won't be needing to find an extra way to die young.. ...maybe a neck tat and leathers instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 hours ago, curious said: What are you smoking? Can you send me some? Only hope is to borrow more money or steal it from the taxpayer. Then I will be out, its grossly unsustainable for all but the very few as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I agree barryb but unless they can start generating significantly more sustainable net revenue, nothing will change and as we can see from the NZRB annual report reserves will run out sooner rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, curious said: I agree barryb but unless they can start generating significantly more sustainable net revenue, nothing will change and as we can see from the NZRB annual report reserves will run out sooner rather than later. Well Messara and Winston have made it quite clear that the like of people with my profile(rural dwellers, small club administrator(and volunteer), mug punter, owns half a leg of three or four) are not required. Apparently 18 - 44 year olds are the saviour of the industry. So I hope those 18-44 year olds have got nice deep pockets to rescue the game (and the Waikato Breeders, Trainers, Journos and associated parties who worship the ground Messara and Winnie walk on) Otherwise I think 'significantly more sustainable net revenue' might be a pipedream. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 It is a pipedream because they have no idea about how to fix the half a dozen key things that need to be fixed and are regularly mentioned here and elsewhere, most recently the rooted handicapping system and stakes structure. They have solid evidence that the handicapping system is munted as far as providing competitive racing attractive to punters goes. Never mind. Let's just find more idiots in a different age group to support it instead of fixing it as Mardi has recently suggested. Don't fix the ridiculous tiered stakes structure. Expand it. Sell our best assets and use the money to replace diminishing reserves until they are also squandered. Or use some of it to "fix" stuffed tracks that have not been refurbished for decades and do that with no sustainable business plan for funding those refurbishments. I'm with barryb here. I'd be staying on the sidelines while they exacerbate the damage and things continue to race towards an even bigger pile of s&^t than we have now, while the powers that be sit around with hands in pockets or elsewhere expecting the taxpayer or someone else to bale us out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horseboy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Do we need 50 something race tracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Horseboy said: Do we need 50 something race tracks? Quite correct We need to sell off the deadwood tracks that are sucking exorbitant amounts of industry funds Ellerslie Te Rapa Awapuni Trentham Riccarton Wingatui that would be down to 44 and all would quickly come right And while you are at it get rid of and replace a couple of deadwood organisations NZRB NZTR Edited December 18, 2018 by Reefton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, Horseboy said: Do we need 50 something race tracks? NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horseboy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Reefton said: Quite correct We need to sell off the deadwood tracks that are sucking exorbitant amounts of industry funds Ellerslie Te Rapa Awapuni Trentham Riccarton Wingatui that would be down to 44 and all would quickly come right And while you are at it get rid of and replace a couple of deadwood organisations NZRB NZTR Seems like an interesting idea. What successful racing jurisdiction forgoes major metropolitan tracks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 None...because they ARE successful. This one isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reefton said: Well Messara and Winston have made it quite clear that the like of people with my profile(rural dwellers, small club administrator(and volunteer), mug punter, owns half a leg of three or four) are not required. Apparently 18 - 44 year olds are the saviour of the industry. So I hope those 18-44 year olds have got nice deep pockets to rescue the game (and the Waikato Breeders, Trainers, Journos and associated parties who worship the ground Messara and Winnie walk on) Otherwise I think 'significantly more sustainable net revenue' might be a pipedream. I haven't read anything in the Messara report that suggests the above. You can still be a rural dweller, mug punter, and own half a leg of three or four! And you can still be a small club administrator or volunteer; once the industry reaches a concensus on which small West Coast club(s) to keep! ? Edited December 18, 2018 by Brando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horseboy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Freda said: None...because they ARE successful. This one isn't. I would think emulating success would be a good start. Didn't Aus rationalise the amount of tracks years ago? Edited December 18, 2018 by Horseboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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