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The five biggest priorities for new NZTR CEO Matt Ballesty


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3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Or was it the Bank of England?

If Truss was dumb then Reeves is even dumber.  The UK can't tax itself out of the mess it is in.  

I suggest you @Huey and @Doomed reduce your risk on UK stocks.  Sell your Landrover shares ASAP.  Actually liquidate your Landrovers as parts might become hard to come by.

I keep getting dragged into these debates. People always pick on the quiet ones.

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34 minutes ago, The Centaur said:

A big problem is evident in the photo. Te Rapa premier day with group races. Not the horse .... the backgound

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I noticed that myself, but decided not to say anything. NZTR keep putting up those shots with empty grandstands which is never a good look.

Does anyone have any idea of turnovers? I saw someone mention somewhere that Tauherenikau on Waitangi Day always does more oncourse turnover than Te Rapa on Dyke day.

I also saw a comment from the Oaks stud in the Savaglee article saying turnovers are booming and the industry is in a great place. If that is correct then all is good, but we never get to see turnover figures to decide for ourselves.

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1 hour ago, Doomed said:

I noticed that myself, but decided not to say anything. NZTR keep putting up those shots with empty grandstands which is never a good look.

Does anyone have any idea of turnovers? I saw someone mention somewhere that Tauherenikau on Waitangi Day always does more oncourse turnover than Te Rapa on Dyke day.

I also saw a comment from the Oaks stud in the Savaglee article saying turnovers are booming and the industry is in a great place. If that is correct then all is good, but we never get to see turnover figures to decide for ourselves.

"Turnovers = Top Secret "or at least that appears to be the case.

I keep hearing the same about Turnovers , but I just can't get my head around them having increased at all, not the least significantly at the moment. Everything in this industry is giving the indication that little has changed apart from stakes (i.e. crowds) .

The meetings I've attended recently seem to have the same number of patrons on course as they ever have, its just as easy to get  a bet on (if you take into account how they have made it harder to for us older ones) but I don't see people betting more in fact it appears as if punters are being more careful with their hard earned.

Apart from the World Pool , which is a "give me" . I can't see where this is occurring ... massive punting on peoples phones or sports betting?

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It seems that if turnovers, let alone revenues were actually up, they would be shouting the figures from the roof tops? Aside from isolated events, I haven't seen that from Entain, only others saying it - like the Oaks as above.

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Don't know if any of these outfits are interested in increasing turnover.  Must be all about margin. Just looked at Lightning odds and Entain have Switzerland 2.60.  Australian TAB an even more ridiculous 2.25.

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9 hours ago, Doomed said:

I noticed that myself, but decided not to say anything. NZTR keep putting up those shots with empty grandstands which is never a good look.

Does anyone have any idea of turnovers? I saw someone mention somewhere that Tauherenikau on Waitangi Day always does more oncourse turnover than Te Rapa on Dyke day.

I also saw a comment from the Oaks stud in the Savaglee article saying turnovers are booming and the industry is in a great place. If that is correct then all is good, but we never get to see turnover figures to decide for ourselves.

Well I'm not one to gossip but I do know the Turnover increases have been steady with the stand outs being the Karaka day [ incl World Pool] and the eleven Premier meetings around Boxing Day New year up to Kumara...Thats 2 x Ellerslie , 2 x Trentham and Kumara  included up 22%.

The 2 months Nov/Dec combined saw Gallops + 10% , Harness +8% , Dogs +7%. Sports betting +10% and nearly matching Gallops and Harness combined !

Active accounts +30k up to 200k..

Field size for both main codes were down which doesnt help , and many will say the key figures are the the GBR or profit ! Methinks bonus bets etc can skew things.

But its not disastrous .

I'd mark it ..... Racing needs to do better  , to justify increased advtg and promotion etc.

So possums , spend ,spend, spend ......don't sit on the sidelines , racing may be a televised sport but it needs your money thru the tote !

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