Newmarket Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just a few months back, this horse put in an amazing run to win derby in record time after hard run. Yet, in all its runs since it has raced poorly. Reason being, mmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Just a few months back, this horse put in an amazing run to win derby in record time after hard run. Yet, in all its runs since it has raced poorly. Reason being, mmmm sounds like they are managing issues and that missed trial put me right off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rangatira said: sounds like they are managing issues and that missed trial put me right off has issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 You both may be right, but even its runs after derby were poor. Really, they way it won derby, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 The bottles empty 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Not unheard of a hard run at 3 may not come back until 5. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Arsenic said: The bottles empty Does make you wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Not unheard of a hard run at 3 may not come back until 5. Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I think Rakapuka ruler and sheriff built in the same mould. I'm sure sheriff will come right..........in America! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I think Rakapuka ruler and sheriff built in the same mould. I'm sure sheriff will come right..........in America! I see raka got 2nd last week after good win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I see raka got 2nd last week after good win. Yes I don't know why the Aussies have a knack of getting the best out of our horses that seem past Their best here, idoms trotters final.., Audi hare also another racing in forbury claimers a few years ago, now competitive in interdoms Pacers section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Arsenic said: The bottles empty trainer had big win last weekend in cup at rangoire 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane21 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Was it named after the owner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kane21 said: Was it named after the owner? like fun at the beach the owner in speedos having fun at the beach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 13 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: Like fun at the beach. can you imagine the owner in speedos having fun at the beach? Whale watch would have a field day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: I smell a harpoon joke coming! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) On 23/12/2018 at 5:57 PM, Flagship uberalles said: Yes I don't know why the Aussies have a knack of getting the best out of our horses that seem past Their best here, idoms trotters final.., Audi hare also another racing in forbury claimers a few years ago, now competitive in interdoms Pacers section. Its not just horses "past their best". A lot of upcomming and average horses grow a leg when transfered to aus. The reason IMO is that they train and drive them differently. Agressive training, trials and then racing hard week in week out. I believe we are too soft here in Nz racing. in most cases every couple of weeks and then racing with a cover in a sprint home. Most are afraid to sit parked or make a move untill the straight as they might flatten the horse. Look how they race in Aus, leading or sitting parked is often the place to be and then they race again the next week. They dont seem to get tired in Aus by a hard run one week, come out the next week and run better. It must be in the training and the horses are a lot tougher than we in NZ give them credit for. there are coutless examples of these types of horse in Aus, Tiger T., Smoken Up, Blackes a fake, all the Tritton. Puzzuto, Hall, Lilley, Stewart etc horses. A large percentage of these ex NZ ones. A lot of Nz trainers could do with going to Aus for a stint and then come back and use their methods, Despite what some will say i believe the All stars have mastered this Aussie technique of training and is why they have success with their horses being able to sit parked and still win. Edited December 24, 2018 by Harewood spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 Another average run today by Sheriff. Pace should have suited, but couldnt keep up with first 2, even after lovely trip. Wonder if Sheriff had the Blood thing done before Derby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 23/12/2018 at 8:10 PM, Kane21 said: Was it named after the owner? looks like he was a johnny come lately in the ownership 23 Jan 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Thought it was his race to win yesterday after perfect run on hot pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane21 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 22 hours ago, Rangatira said: looks like he was a johnny come lately in the ownership 23 Jan 2018 I hope that's not Ovineship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Kane21 said: I hope that's not Ovineship that is when it changed mrs a f mcgrath exited and small car world ltd entered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 what has gone wrong with it was it knobbled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakama Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, hunterthepunter said: what has gone wrong with it was it knobbled Does make you wonder....maybe a bloody good vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kakama said: Does make you wonder....maybe a bloody good vet kane will no maybe like on the Interislander like that other horse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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