Chief Stipe Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Another one gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Sweeney "Things have to change" - start by calling out the fools who are running the industry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Usually we see horses slip when on a bend, but on a straight early in race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Looks like the horse in blue clipped heels to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Usually we see horses slip when on a bend, but on a straight early in race? Wasn't that straight! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago I've only watched a replay. Did a report come through on Chris Dell at all? I'm wondering if the races were abandoned due to the state of the rider, rather than the track as it didn't look like a slip to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Wasn't that straight! Come on, we had Xmas racing in the Sth island on tight turning tracks recently, can’t remember one falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Special Agent said: I've only watched a replay. Did a report come through on Chris Dell at all? I'm wondering if the races were abandoned due to the state of the rider, rather than the track as it didn't look like a slip to me. Both Jockeys fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago not to sure if this will work? https://www.facebook.com/100002419548128/videos/609773558607473/?idorvanity=424229018789803 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Both Jockeys fine. Some good news then. A bloody disaster otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assange Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Huey said: Sweeney "Things have to change" - start by calling out the fools who are running the industry! Interviewing Kate Hercock and querying rail position. Interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Assange said: Interviewing Kate Hercock and querying rail position. Interesting. Speaking up finally , time to utilise all the industry assets that we can. Enough of this land grab by stealth , they have ruined the industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Thanks for the alternate view of the race which showed no clipping of heels. Could you be absolutely sure the horse hasn't struck itself as a cause to fall? Evidently riders reported to Jonathan Riddell they felt no problems with the track. No surface or running rail problems were detected prior to racing, and a different situation to the day before at Wanganui where there were heavy downpours at intervals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago Look on the brightside as least the Trackside Presenters now have another opportunity to use the word "aftermath" correctly! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Huey said: Speaking up finally , time to utilise all the industry assets that we can. Enough of this land grab by stealth , they have ruined the industry. If we had more tracks we would just spread the abandonments. The issue is a lack of investment in infrastructure and track renovations for decades. Arguably we don't have enough spare capital to fix the problem so adding more underfunded tracks is only going to make it worse not better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: If we had more tracks we would just spread the abandonments. The issue is a lack of investment in infrastructure and track renovations for decades. Arguably we don't have enough spare capital to fix the problem so adding more underfunded tracks is only going to make it worse not better. Rubbish, plenty of tracks able to cope with jumpouts /trials/gallops etc but not used for racing 9or gone now because they have been left to rot). I agree there needs to be reinvestment in infrastructure and thats why you utilise everything available , also perhaps the venues chosen to continue racing on aren't the right ones. They have largely been chosen because of location and industry nepotism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 30 years ago the Otaki track was described as 'Well banked and drained, resulting in horses performing pleasingly when racing on the inside'. Three decades of chronic under investment has left the industry with massive track issues. The new CEO has his work cut out to sort this out and at the same time issue a new credible calendar..BUT will he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Huey said: Rubbish, plenty of tracks able to cope with jumpouts /trials/gallops etc but not used for racing 9or gone now because they have been left to rot). Rubbish or rather crap. You can't compare jumpouts or trials or gallops with raceday conditions! Who cares if someone sits up on your horse in a jumpout or goes slower to avoid an issue. 3 minutes ago, Huey said: I agree there needs to be reinvestment in infrastructure and thats why you utilise everything available , You miss the point. The industry doesn't have enough infrastructure to adequately look after half the tracks it has now let alone any of the others you infer. Half the problem at Otaki is they don't have an adequate irrigation system and can't afford to fix the one they have. It has been an issue for at least two decades. 5 minutes ago, Huey said: They have largely been chosen because of location and industry nepotism. Banging the same drum over and over isn't going to make your view correct. Are you suggesting Hawkes Bay isn't one of what you call the "chosen OBC few"? Hell the WRC can't afford to look after Trentham properly! Ye reap what ye sow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Wingman said: 30 years ago the Otaki track was described as 'Well banked and drained, resulting in horses performing pleasingly when racing on the inside'. Three decades of chronic under investment has left the industry with massive track issues. The new CEO has his work cut out to sort this out and at the same time issue a new credible calendar..BUT will he? No. He will fall in to the culture that has existed within the organisation for a very long time. All the others did. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Wingman said: 30 years ago the Otaki track was described as 'Well banked and drained, resulting in horses performing pleasingly when racing on the inside'. Probably still is but it has a crap irrigation system and the club probably can't afford to pay for the water and power to run it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago As they have a track that is used for racing, are they not subsidised by NZTR to provide a good racing surface? I await the Stipes Report. Jockeys were not riding as if the track was slippery or felt unsafe under them. There was tightening and bumping that didn't result in slipping or falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Special Agent said: As they have a track that is used for racing, are they not subsidised by NZTR to provide a good racing surface? They get peanuts and after decades of peanuts when gold bars were required you get tracks now that are near impossible to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Ye reap what ye sow! Never truer words spoken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Wingman said: 30 years ago the Otaki track was described as 'Well banked and drained, resulting in horses performing pleasingly when racing on the inside'. Three decades of chronic under investment has left the industry with massive track issues. The new CEO has his work cut out to sort this out and at the same time issue a new credible calendar..BUT will he? That's the burning question. Does he even know about these matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Time will tell Freda but this Industry is running out of time and excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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