jess Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Long awaited race-day debut for the new track. Weather's been good & the sun's out there. From time to time, we all have our grumbles & criticism here on BOAY - but 99% of us are here because we love the horses & the racing. And it's pretty important this track proves to be the goods. Especially amidst reporting of rumored closures - pending announcements re the future of Hastings etc So all the best to everyone for today - officials, track staff, workers, punters, trainers, riders , owners & of course the horses. Wishing all those competing, a swift & safe path to the finish line today. Jess Edited 8 hours ago by jess typo 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago A Good 4 race day morning and 38% moisture reading. In my opinion that would indicate a very good surface to race on. Compare that to Ellerslie which last meeting had initially a soft 5 with a moisture reading that varied over days from 24 to 33%. Shame we don't get penetrometer data like they do in Australia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Bit of kick back. A lot of sand in that profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Was thinking the same watching it on tv Chief - accustomed to old school tracks - I'm not used to seeing that kickback of loose particles - and even the odd clod flying - when the track's rated Good 4 .... The intro from Bevan S was quite guarded, I thought - theme being don't expect the track to be at its best yet. Also interesting to hear the track manager talk about learning a lot from the trials (couple weeks back) & making some changes after that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Slip on the corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Uh oh here we go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago Unaccustomed as I am to foul language .... F#$k ..... how gutting .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago NZTR will do a report , so do not fret! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Quickly transfer the meeting to Waverley??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago Huey - both funny posts but possibly just ... "too soon"? ... for us sensitive types who started the day so full of hopes n dreams .... and that's from someone who is not on-course and doesn't even have a horse there - so plenty of others will be feeling it more .... BUGGER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Did it look that bad? They couldn't find any slip marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, jess said: Huey - both funny posts but possibly just ... "too soon"? ... for us sensitive types who started the day so full of hopes n dreams .... and that's from someone who is not on-course and doesn't even have a horse there - so plenty of others will be feeling it more .... BUGGER! Industry run by nepotism and incompetence nothing more humorous than what is going on , don't worry its just going to take a while for the track to bed in like Ellerslie. Meanwhile owners can be expected to cop the brunt of the bill for that bedding in process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I don't understand how the horse slipped since they were getting into it so much. That aside not sure about these sand profile tracks. Ever seen rye grass growing on a beach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I blame the jockeys. Just like Ellerslie there seems to have been no input by jockeys into the design of the tracks. The turn corner is far too sharp with little banking. Expecting jockeys to ride on that is absurd. On top of that there are the greedies who have sold of land which could have been used to smooth out the bends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Centaur said: I blame the jockeys. Just like Ellerslie there seems to have been no input by jockeys into the design of the tracks. The turn corner is far too sharp with little banking. Expecting jockeys to ride on that is absurd. On top of that there are the greedies who have sold of land which could have been used to smooth out the bends. Definitely too sharp a bend , the report should be informative ... not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 races at Woodville now , while Awapuni follow the plans and processes ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, The Centaur said: I blame the jockeys. Just like Ellerslie there seems to have been no input by jockeys into the design of the tracks. The turn corner is far too sharp with little banking. Expecting jockeys to ride on that is absurd. On top of that there are the greedies who have sold of land which could have been used to smooth out the bends. The get round Omoto and Reefton OK. But given the rail was out the same distance the whole way then are you suggesting that with the rail in the true position the bend is also too tight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Did it look that bad? They couldn't find any slip marks. The slip was obvious and significant. Appalling stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: . Ever seen rye grass growing on a beach? Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickintheKods Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago "And we would like to thank the owners, especially those who travelled from locations that far exceed that shithole we call Awaapooooni.............." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Freda said: The slip was obvious and significant. Appalling stuff. I caught up with it in a later replay and it was significant. I expect to be derided for my next comment but... was it a slip or did the horse lose its footing? Hercock says the track needs more water like Ellerslie. Yet go figure Ellerslie was a S5 at 28% moisture and Awapuni was G4 at 38% moisture. Now we have Senior jockeys telling the track managers how to manage the tracks. A circus. There is a 30cm layer of sand on top at Awapuni. We now have another Ellerslie. I was always taught that the best soil profile for drainage AND turf culture WASN'T pure sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Freda said: The slip was obvious and significant. Appalling stuff. Yep it looked pretty clear & the pair did well not to go down. Not being able to find the applicable slip marks isn't too relevant I'd have thought - when the slip was so apparent and deemed free of interference. I think of "slipping" like skidding - like when my boot goes out from under me, slipping on a slimy boardwalk ... I wonder if these slips we now see on these tracks are not quite that classic slip/skid due to slipperiness - & won't necessarily look like that either, when examining the ground? Rather than a hoof skidding across the surface - maybe what we're seeing is more like the substrate not staying intact - so the hoof lands and then some of the upper part of that substrate parts ways with the subsoil - hence the horse losing its footing, becoming unbalanced and appearing to slip. End result for horse & rider is pretty similar though - it's unsafe. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Chief - I was typing while you posted & have just seen your last - so no intent to reprise your comments - if this was in fact the sort of thing you were meaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I have had a short day out at Awapuni. Do you think Levin should go to support that infrastructure and inept administration? Not on your nelly!! Disgraceful for New Zealand racing. You can stick your new expensive fencing and drinking hole. Country tracks perform just fine without the hooplah. Word at the track suggests many did not agree with the rail being out. Apparently not all track work riders were entirely happy with the surface but no one was willing to listen. Heads at Awapuni must roll!! Jockeys must speak their mind and not be influenced by what everyone wants to hear. I don't believe trainers were properly consulted. I still believe the track has not been given sufficient time to consolodate. What a mess. Many should hang their heads in shame. Money has been squandered and stakeholders are out of pocket. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago They believe Moonee Valley isn't ready on Saturday either. Let's see how that plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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