Wall of death

[Yankiwi]

1 hour ago, Arsenic said:

My involvement in racing has been with harness for over 30+ years and in that period Michael Godber was the CEO of Addington Raceway Ltd.

I have not had any involvement or betting on harness since the rigged racing came to light late last year , never get a dollar of my money ever again .

Couldnt believe at the time that he had acquired the RIU position I always thought he was far to limp wristed for that job .

As for the rest of the workforce in the RIU I wouldn’t employ any in my business.

lm  well aware these big kennels need catchers on race day, all you participants should  flatly refuse to catch or handle their dogs and if they don’t have handlers then they shouldn’t be allowed to start.

That should apply to the Cole and McInerney kennels , you the participants have the power so use it , the Greyhound Assn or the RIU cannot make you help them .

Just say no see what happens as is it under the rules they must have a handler and catcher , I take it can only be one dog per person .

Just say no

100% correct.

It's one of the powers LP's still have & the easiest to utilize. 

 

ie: Race #7 is a 520m race and we have 6 of the dogs in the field. We've only got 4 staff members from our kennel so we need to find 10 handlers....

...Ok big kennel, with the numbers you've bred you'll always have some with better form then the dogs in my kennel & because of that, my dogs didn't gain an entry. So yes, I'll handle for you but in return I want 10% of the stakes money any of your dogs win in each race I'm required to box/catch. I know it's a steep price to pay, but because of your tactics, it's the only way I stand a chance of covering my costs, never mind making a dollar or two from the endless hours I put in both here at the track & looking after my dogs at home.

If you can't find your 10 handlers, then some of your charges will have to be late scratched & receive their 28 day stand-down. In those 4 weeks, I'll stand a better chance of gaining entry into the races & maybe I can cover my costs in that manner...

The choice is yours, yet again, Mr. Big Kennel.

Edited February 8, 2019 by Yankiwi

[Yankiwi]

12 hours ago, Yankiwi said:

As soon as an LP openly speaks up against authority, everyone know what will quickly happen to them.

I've noticed another BOAY member is the neighbour of a trainer & I feel that's a brilliant way for that trainer to get his/her point across. Surely the neighbour isn't an LP so they wouldn't have to worry about the wraith of what the GRNZ rule might hold. 

The powers (GRNZ/RIU) read the forums & trawl for their next victim that speaks the truth. It sometimes seems that if someone starts getting to close to the truth, the powers bend over backwards to shut them up. They probably feel threated because if the truth does make it to the surface, they know they'll be in the chit for their part in covering the truth up.

[aquaman]

Agree Arsenic, just say no. The battery farmers need shunning completely by their peers. This would be the most simple method responsible participants could do to bring change.

[cichlid]

Could it be true what has been trap talk for a while now  with  some  of the handlers  getting paid in sorts. Have you  noticed some of these handlers own dogs performances all of sudden improve and  their team of dogs put in runs that are out of the blue and very, very, questionable? This is a pattern amongst several that are tied in this way to  larger kennels. If the R.I.U. were capable they would have picked up on this by now. From  my own point of view I have always maintained there are rotten eggs in the Greyhound train of command and if there was a flaw in the swab proceedures for instance and the  Head dogs  had their hand firmly on the leash imagine what could be taking place right under our noses. Apart from massive stake advantages the punting is also very lucrative but with all avenues of authority covered by the corrupt it is hard to get this out in the open.

[Arsenic]

Just say no would be very easy to set up , and further any person who does help these trainers then their name should go on the banned list as well .

So if your initial first two trainers are Cole and McInerney but then say trainers a - b and c help those trainers in any way handle ,catch or kennel a dog then trainers a - b and c should be placed on that list as well .

Just say no , don’t help in anyway shape or form .

Easy to do and they can’t do anything about it .

You people hold the power use it

[Hard Times]

2 hours ago, aquaman said:

Agree Arsenic, just say no. The battery farmers need shunning completely by their peers. This would be the most simple method responsible participants could do to bring change.

People don't really have those kind of balls, Aquaman

[Cockyaleg]

I have often wondered about the motivation of the "jump to it" brigade. Having listened to the "pseudo christ" berate and denigrate his fellow competitors all too frequently, I find it hard to believe these people somehow believe they are exempt from his contempt? Yet, he says jump, and boy they jump. Surely they can't be that naive?

Cross once told me to get a real job cos' he was going to shut the industry down, little did he realise at the time, that closure would never come via his hands, but via our own. The purpose of the almighty's breeding program was to saturate the fields, to limit the opportunity for his peers. You get awards for this. With the latest influx of pups, he will achieve his goal by the end of the year.  And still, the jumpers rally to his aid. Suicidal lemmings.

[Milo]

54 minutes ago, Arsenic said:

Just say no would be very easy to set up , and further any person who does help these trainers then their name should go on the banned list as well .

So if your initial first two trainers are Cole and McInerney but then say trainers a - b and c help those trainers in any way handle ,catch or kennel a dog then trainers a - b and c should be placed on that list as well .

Just say no , don’t help in anyway shape or form .

Easy to do and they can’t do anything about it .

You people hold the power use it

Shit I’m glad your not a friend of mine.Ban someone for helping  out someone.What a wa##er

[Arsenic]

19 minutes ago, Cockyaleg said:

 And still, the jumpers rally to his aid. Suicidal lemmings.

To milo and all his greasy counterparts who help the white poodle shame on the lot of you , you people are just as bad as The perpurtratior himself .

Hope something comes of this as milo and his greasy mates shouldn’t be wanted in this game . 

[Feel The Fritter]

36 minutes ago, Cockyaleg said:

I have often wondered about the motivation of the "jump to it" brigade. Having listened to the "pseudo christ" berate and denigrate his fellow competitors all too frequently, I find it hard to believe these people somehow believe they are exempt from his contempt? Yet, he says jump, and boy they jump. Surely they can't be that naive?

Cross once told me to get a real job cos' he was going to shut the industry down, little did he realise at the time, that closure would never come via his hands, but via our own. The purpose of the almighty's breeding program was to saturate the fields, to limit the opportunity for his peers. You get awards for this. With the latest influx of pups, he will achieve his goal by the end of the year.  And still, the jumpers rally to his aid. Suicidal lemmings.

Where do you place the Infamous Mr.Rendle in the scheme of things Cockyaleg?

[Arsenic]

46 minutes ago, Milo said:

Shit I’m glad your not a friend of mine.Ban someone for helping  out someone.What a wa##er

You would never ever be my friend , I abide by the law and follow the rules.

But since your in his pocket then you would suspect that you are as bad and this game is better than the likes of you . Wanker

For helping out someone , he’s not someone he’s “ The Poodle “

Edited February 9, 2019 by Arsenic

[Cockyaleg]

26 minutes ago, Feel The Fritter said:

Where do you place the Infamous Mr.Rendle in the scheme of things Cockyaleg?

The man who made it all possible. Now dubbed the "invisible man".

[Feel The Fritter]

Yep the Slime Bag has so much to answer for. He had to become Invisible as reporters were after him to question his Pre Medicated deliberate High Jacking of an Industry. What this man has done to our Industry and our dogs will come out in the open   but in the Meantime look how much $ wise he banks every race day that he is intertwined with Cole. He is part of the cancer that lurks  amongst the very well being and heart of the Greyhound Racing scene and it stretches far. The concept of naming and shaming handlers helping the Big kennel is worth pursueing and Arsenic has this right idea  but as Hardtimes says  "People don't really have those kind of balls" Time to start getting serious  people as The Association has not put a hold on the wholesale breeding that cannot be sustained and Suicidal lemmings you will become sooner than you anticipate.

[That Girl]

Have to agree with the current conversation, I watch Trackside and 'blacklist' anyone I see helping out Cole. Mugs. 

Also the Rendle/Holden combo was one of the more crooked in GRNZ history and that's saying something. Rendle gets awards for that too.

[Milo]

15 hours ago, Arsenic said:

To milo and all his greasy counterparts who help the white poodle shame on the lot of you , you people are just as bad as The perpurtratior himself .

Hope something comes of this as milo and his greasy mates shouldn’t be wanted in this game . 

Once again your facts are wrong.Im actually a female,and don’t even have a handlers licence so can’t see how I have helped him.Jelousy can be a very evil thing in some people.

[Arsenic]

49 minutes ago, Milo said:

Once again your facts are wrong.Im actually a female,and don’t even have a handlers licence so can’t see how I have helped him.Jelousy can be a very evil thing in some people.

If you think this is about jealousy then you need help ,  this is all about animal welfare and the do’s and dont’s within the Greyhounds. 

Having dogs mysteriously die during or after a race or using other animals as a drive for there dogs is nothing short of bullshit .

That happened in the Roman Empire era where man verses lion but it is now 2019 and this behaviour is unacceptable .

If your of the belief these things are okay then you yourself are as guilty as the participants involved .

Jealousy now that’s a laugh . 

I hope like hell the honest people do set up a register  of names where upon those people that are helping these uncouth participants are shunned and denied help in any way shape or form . 

[Cockyaleg]

Why is a genuine concern for the future of the sport referred to as jealousy by those who support monopoly behaviour? I have never understood that reasoning.

1. To continue, the sport needs to at least retain its present participant numbers. To grow, the sport needs to attract higher numbers of new participants. In the current climate, the sport is not an attractive option. Dwindling numbers makes it far easier to shut down.

2. Monopolies are frowned upon in the real world business environment for good reason. The Commerce Commission was set up to ensure market health/integrity and to police business behaviour.  Without controls, most of us could simply not afford to live. Petrol companies are a prime example of dishonest monopoly business behaviour. 

3. Bottom line and how that is achieved has been the motivation of all industry bad behaviour. The larger the outfit, the more risks taken. Those risks often fall outside the rules. Prime current example, Darren Weir. Why should any of us support those who bring negative publicity upon our sport? Why?

4. Jealousy dictionary definition: Jealousy is the feeling of anger or bitterness which someone has when they wish that they could have the qualities or possessions that another person has. You would have to be insane to believe anyone wants to emulate that which Milo defends. That is simply unsustainable and unhealthy.

5. Public perception and license. Yes, changes have been made but unless the major bone of contention is addressed, public license will herald our demise.

6. To believe that opposition is jealous and evil is not the view of one sound of mind. It is the behaviour of someone who personally benefits from a symbiotic relationship with that monopoly.

 

[Yankiwi]

3 hours ago, Milo said:

Jelousy can be a very evil thing in some people.

I don't have a dog kennel. I don't own any greyhounds. I don't have the SPCA investigating me, nor do I have the RIU chomping at the bit to get a hold of me once an SPCA investigation is completed. I don't have my name on the JCA website. I don't kill animals because of neglect when I travel. I don't kill perfectly healthy animals when I can no longer profit from them. I don't make my household pets gain or lose 10% of their body weight in the course of a week.

I do have enough money to cover my bills. I do live a debt free life. I'm very far from a millionaire but have the live skills & knowhow to live with-in my means, without the backing of anyone else's money.

I am in no way jealous of anyone involved in the greyhound industry.

[Yankiwi]

3 hours ago, Milo said:

so can’t see how I have helped him.

Do you punt on the tote?

Do you focus on fixed odds and lose money long term?

Both help them.

[Cockyaleg]

5 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

I don't have a dog kennel. I don't own any greyhounds. I don't have the SPCA investigating me, nor do I have the RIU chomping at the bit to get a hold of me once an SPCA investigation is completed. I don't have my name on the JCA website. I don't kill animals because of neglect when I travel. I don't kill perfectly healthy animals when I can no longer profit from them. I don't make my household pets gain or lose 10% of their body weight in the course of a week.

I do have enough money to cover my bills. I do live a debt free life. I'm very far from a millionaire but have the live skills & knowhow to live with-in my means, without the backing of anyone else's money.

I am in no way jealous of anyone involved in the greyhound industry.

Well said.

Most of us want to be self-sustainable. We take on what can be comfortably managed by one, two, or three people. We want the best quality of life for our dogs during racing and strive to rehome every dog at retirement. We persevere with dogs that may never achieve open class. We work within the rules. We don't make the headlines for the wrong reasons, and we aren't motivated by ego and awards. We are the backbone of the sport, and we stand up with pride.

[Arsenic]

In the time I have been watching the dogs I have never seen Lisa Cole at the dogs or on tv or for that matter anywhere , so  is she an actual trainer or is she a figment of our imagination or it’s all just a front for her husband 

 

[Mischief managed]

3 hours ago, Arsenic said:

In the time I have been watching the dogs I have never seen Lisa Cole at the dogs or on tv or for that matter anywhere , so  is she an actual trainer or is she a figment of our imagination or it’s all just a front for her husband 

 

Training gets done from a training complex. Racing gets done from a racing complex.

No where does it state the trainer must accompany the dogs to the races.

From an invisible trainer who you would be lucky to see more than a couple times a year at a meeting.

[Arsenic]

I’m just saying I’ve never seen her , then again don’t know what she looks like 

[Taupiri Wonder]

To quote Oz from Auf Wiedersehen Pet,Lisa looks like "a tidy bit of tackle". 

[Guest CrossCodes]

On 8/02/2019 at 9:52 AM, Yankiwi said:

Will probably be brought back to Addington this afternoon & represented to the Vet, wearing a neck brace because of whip lash & two eye patches because the blinkers are failing to work, for a 21 day injury stand-down, like has already happened twice previously in its short career.

Judicial report: 1). YI FENG (J T McInerney) - Mr McInerney applied to Stewards to have this Greyhound re-examined under GRNZ Rule 55.4 after it was stood down at the Christchurch GRC's meeting on the 7th February 2019 for Failing to pursue the Lure. It was reported that the greyhound had soreness in its right hip support and a 21 day stand down imposed. Subsequently the endorsement under GRNZ Rule 55.1(b) was rescinded.

 

 

Spot on Yankiwi, if this isn’t a case of Scott Wallis letting McInerney away with this crap week in week out then I don’t know what is.

An absolute fucking disgrace and the trainer and owner ( M Lin) as well as the Stipe should all be ashamed, as well as the vet for making up false injuries to support letting this mongrel dog race again.