Auckland Friday night- should they race??

[Brodie]

Auckland Friday night fields are sure to be a massive loss for the Industry!

They can not keep dishing this crap out and expect things to progress!

There are 7 races and only 2 races have sufficient starters to have 3 place divs.

Brad Steele paints this rosey picture of how well harness racing is going and if he believes this twaddle then he should not be CEO at HRNZ!

Appalling situation  when they continue this racing with 5 and 6 horse fields.

It will not continue indefinitely as someone with a semblance of business sense will step in and sort or harness racing is permanently stuffed in the North!!

 

 

[Doomed]

It's a terrible look isn't it. The new way of doing things is totally beyond me. I'm used to a world where turnovers were supposed to generate enough income to cover stakes. These days, turnovers seem to be irrelevant and stakes money is just dished out regardless of performance.

In the galloping code a meeting with that number of acceptors would have been abandoned. The gallops are hardly a model for how to run a successful racing industry, but at least in that instance they usually get things right.

Do any people actually go along to these meetings? The atmosphere must be quite strange.

[mikeynz]

I have said 1 meeting a week will suffice but as Gamma says lots of happy owners, just about everyone gets a stake, enjoy it while it's there I guess.

Reality is HRNZ need a revamp of their though process.

[Gammalite]

You people are so mean . 

counting runners to decide if a meeting should proceed or Not ??  

That's just ridiculous . Waikato has 7 races of around  8 horse's this week. HALF of the Runners racing on the night will earn some money for 4th place or better. This is an EXCELLENT thing. 

It's the middle of Winter . The better horses will be worked up through the Spring to race in November December when all the Big races are on. of course the fields are gunna be smaller Brodster , Mikey and anyone else that DOESN"T realize this . Don't worry about it so much  . You never Bet in the Northern ones anyway. So why be so Bloody mean about em all the time. the same old same old same old rubbish and slandering of the racing,  is just ruining the forums.  why be so mean all the time. 

Addington had about 5 races with 7 or 8 runners last week too. You're not grizzling about that?? . you guys are just completely and totally biased is half the problem.

The prize money is tallied for the season by PROFESSIONALS at HRNZ. Trying to get all the owners a quid. We do it better in Queensland by running SMALLER fields so that more OWNERS get a RETURN on their investments . Common sense to keep them involved in the sport.

Just Don't watch the meetings then ?? . Wait till Sunday then when all your classy low rating runners are racing in the South for your entertainment in those BIG fields where the owners are making a Loss.  . And let these Brilliant Horsemen and Women at Waikato and Auckland that are racing , get on with making their Living . 

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Appalling situation  when they continue this racing with 5 and 6 horse fields.

What??  so All the owners, All the track staff everywhere, Catering people , camera people HUNDREDS of PEOPLE , should just have the WINTER off because you want 10 starters in a Race instead of 5 -6 or 7  they all earn the same money no matter how many are racing.  Horses still pay the some divvies and collect prizemoney.    

and you guys don't bet on them anyway ??  or race any horses  at al? l , so  you're all just being Meaner than mean about good racing people that are TRYING to MAKE A LIVING out of the Sport.   

Blame Brad Steele ? hahahahahaha 😅 he's the one actually trying to keep it going for you people that don't want them to race anymore. 😂 🤣.  what a joke. anyway he gets paid (hopefully a million per year for trying to help the industry)  and any People like mean ones here , that don't want them Harness racing anymore,  can just suck it up.🤪 

[mikeynz]

Gamma just at present they could run ond day a week, they manage to survive at the other end of the country on 1 a week/ 10 day gap.

[Doomed]

10 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

You people are so mean . 

counting runners to decide if a meeting should proceed or Not ??  

That's just ridiculous . Waikato has 7 races of around  8 horse's this week. HALF of the Runners racing on the night will earn some money for 4th place or better. This is an EXCELLENT thing. 

It's the middle of Winter . The better horses will be worked up through the Spring to race in November December when all the Big races are on. of course the fields are gunna be smaller Brodster , Mikey and anyone else that DOESN"T realize this . Don't worry about it so much  . You never Bet in the Northern ones anyway. So why be so Bloody mean about em all the time. the same old same old same old rubbish and slandering of the racing,  is just ruining the forums.  why be so mean all the time. 

Addington had about 5 races with 7 or 8 runners last week too. You're not grizzling about that?? . you guys are just completely and totally biased is half the problem.

The prize money is tallied for the season by PROFESSIONALS at HRNZ. Trying to get all the owners a quid. We do it better in Queensland by running SMALLER fields so that more OWNERS get a RETURN on their investments . Common sense to keep them involved in the sport.

Just Don't watch the meetings then ?? . Wait till Sunday then when all your classy low rating runners are racing in the South for your entertainment in those BIG fields where the owners are making a Loss.  . And let these Brilliant Horsemen and Women at Waikato and Auckland that are racing , get on with making their Living . 

What??  so All the owners, All the track staff everywhere, Catering people , camera people HUNDREDS of PEOPLE , should just have the WINTER off because you want 10 starters in a Race instead of 5 -6 or 7  they all earn the same money no matter how many are racing.  Horses still pay the some divvies and collect prizemoney.    

and you guys don't bet on them anyway ??  or race any horses  at al? l , so  you're all just being Meaner than mean about good racing people that are TRYING to MAKE A LIVING out of the Sport.   

Blame Brad Steele ? hahahahahaha 😅 he's the one actually trying to keep it going for you people that don't want them to race anymore. 😂 🤣.  what a joke. anyway he gets paid (hopefully a million per year for trying to help the industry)  and any People like mean ones here , that don't want them Harness racing anymore,  can just suck it up.🤪 

There is no real point debating the subject with you Gamma as you really just don't understand how the whole industry works. Your whole focus is on smaller fields meaning more money for the owners. You don't seem to understand where the money comes from. The money comes from the punters. Without them racing would come to a dead stop. 

Harness punters do tolerate red hot favs more so than galloping punters, but even harness punters can't get excited by 6 horse low grade fields. And incidentally 6 horse fields aren't "around 8 horse fields". 

Even the interdominion grand final on the weekend would have run at a massive loss. $1.20 winners don't do a lot for betting turnover. 

[Gammalite]

5 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Gamma just at present they could run ond day a week, they manage to survive at the other end of the country on 1 a week/ 10 day gap.

That could be an answer . If requiring all the horses in one place at the same time for Staffing / broadcasting purposes or whatever.

But it's a bit like saying Don't have Play at All. at one golf course. because only 100 people play there. And Only have the Golf course where 200 people are playing. 

It doesn't mean the 200 are on the better course. They enjoy that course and the 200 (you blokes 😂 enjoy your course. Where it's HARDER   to WIN , because there's more players.   

Personally I prefer the 100 person course where you are MORE of a Chance of Winning !!💰🎈🏆

[Gammalite]

4 minutes ago, Doomed said:

s. $1.20 winners don't do a lot for betting turnover. 

The Sport is DEAD as a betting medium.

Brodie knows it. He can't get a bet on even as likes big bets only.

Victoria HRV is 600,000 dollars in the red. It continues to race for the moment because of Asset value.

There is no way the Sport can survive on betting Revenue . It has to survive without 'Betting'

7 minutes ago, Doomed said:

There is no real point debating the subject with you Gamma as you really just don't understand how the whole industry works. Your whole focus is on smaller fields meaning more money for the owners. You don't seem to understand where the money comes from. The money comes from the punters. Without them racing would come to a dead stop. 

That's where you're focused. But not accepting that people don't Bet on the Sport much anymore. Hence all the grizzling. about turnovers and shit like that. Of Course they are LOW these days. The cost of living is too high for people to waste money on horses. 

BUT harness racing it DOESN"T have to come to a DEAD STOP like you say.

Brad Steele and David Brick and other Very FORWARD thinking folk ,  are introducing Slot races and Concepts each year , that are USER pays.  (eventually people will stop grizzling about those ) they were fantastic at Addington last season . and Cambridge. ? that Larry and Arcee Phoenix wins well that was the highlight of the Year really. 

and we got them both here in Queensland to repeat the dose at the Interdominion too. Which was excellent .

Eventually I agree with you the betting will Cease to exist.

I don't Agree That a Sport should Cease to Exist because of that .  Fight hard fella's !!! keep the sport going.

 

[mikeynz]

So if Harness Racing has to survive without betting what do you suggest ?

Gamma I don't think Harness Racing is on its death bed, thd Aucklsnd situation is bad but there has to be a way forward, the numbers turning up each week ain't that bad one day a week is more than enough, IMHO.

Edited 6 hours ago by mikeynz

[the galah]

57 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

You people are so mean . 

counting runners to decide if a meeting should proceed or Not ??  

That's just ridiculous . Waikato has 7 races of around  8 horse's this week. HALF of the Runners racing on the night will earn some money for 4th place or better. This is an EXCELLENT thing. 

It's the middle of Winter . The better horses will be worked up through the Spring to race in November December when all the Big races are on. of course the fields are gunna be smaller Brodster , Mikey and anyone else that DOESN"T realize this . Don't worry about it so much  . You never Bet in the Northern ones anyway. So why be so Bloody mean about em all the time. the same old same old same old rubbish and slandering of the racing,  is just ruining the forums.  why be so mean all the time. 

Addington had about 5 races with 7 or 8 runners last week too. You're not grizzling about that?? . you guys are just completely and totally biased is half the problem.

The prize money is tallied for the season by PROFESSIONALS at HRNZ. Trying to get all the owners a quid. We do it better in Queensland by running SMALLER fields so that more OWNERS get a RETURN on their investments . Common sense to keep them involved in the sport.

Just Don't watch the meetings then ?? . Wait till Sunday then when all your classy low rating runners are racing in the South for your entertainment in those BIG fields where the owners are making a Loss.  . And let these Brilliant Horsemen and Women at Waikato and Auckland that are racing , get on with making their Living . 

What??  so All the owners, All the track staff everywhere, Catering people , camera people HUNDREDS of PEOPLE , should just have the WINTER off because you want 10 starters in a Race instead of 5 -6 or 7  they all earn the same money no matter how many are racing.  Horses still pay the some divvies and collect prizemoney.    

and you guys don't bet on them anyway ??  or race any horses  at al? l , so  you're all just being Meaner than mean about good racing people that are TRYING to MAKE A LIVING out of the Sport.   

Blame Brad Steele ? hahahahahaha 😅 he's the one actually trying to keep it going for you people that don't want them to race anymore. 😂 🤣.  what a joke. anyway he gets paid (hopefully a million per year for trying to help the industry)  and any People like mean ones here , that don't want them Harness racing anymore,  can just suck it up.🤪 

No not mean gammalite,just worried that by running so many meeting at a loss,that it will eat away at the reserves hrnz have to sustain the industry in the future.

Really someone has to be thinking of the people who will  be trying tio make a living in the industry in 5-10 years time.Lining the pockets of the current auckland participants is i think selfish thinking.I don't get why some people can't appreciate that.

anyways,back to the topic ,In my opinion,the answer is somewhere in the middle of the opinions expressed in this thread. As i have said before,run the meetings,but reduce the stakes if the number of starters is smaller. That way people can keep earning a living and that way the cash reserves hrnz have don't get eaten away too quickly.

but doing as they currently are doing,simply is unsustainable.

why do auckland have all those $35,000 races for mid grade horses regularly and addington only get $25,000 races less regularly.

Why are auckland people more deserving than canterbury people.. 

then you have the 2 non win races with the really small fields as always. HRNZ pay out over $20,000 in stakes and bonuses to the connections of the winners of those 2 races,meaning they are tyhe 2 highest paid of the winners of all the reaces run on friday,no matter what the class.

again why the preferential treatment

Personally i think the new handicapping system seems to be going ok. I noticed they ran a couple of races where they allowed 1 win horses who hadn't recently earned much to run  against the  non win horses. I particularly like that as they need to do that if they are to maximise the racing potential of all the horse population. The 1 win horses who had won the weaked,lesser stake races need to have a future and should be slowly allowed to transition back to the level of non win grade they can be competitive without being dominant.

Theres something about mr steele's regular comments, which fail to inspire much confidence in what hes doing, for me.

i wonder what will happen with auckland. 

aren't they deciding that tomorrow.

will hrnz leave the whole of nz hraness regions with an anchor called the ATC,that will eventually drag them to a standstill. 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by the galah

[mikeynz]

Galah, I think the handicapping system is open to exploitation, it was pointed out by some that with no stake or rating deductions for fifth that some would be trying not to finish there,  should they not be trying to win or does that only happen when the stakes go up,

Edited 5 hours ago by mikeynz

[Gammalite]

17 minutes ago, the galah said:

why do auckland have all those $35,000 races for mid grade horses regularly and addington only get $25,000 races less regularly.

Why are auckland people more deserving than canterbury people.. 

then you have the 2 non win races with the really small fields as always. HRNZ pay out over $20,000 in stakes and bonuses to the connections of the winners of those 2 races,meaning they are tyhe 2 highest paid of the winners of all the reaces run on friday,no matter what the class.

Not a huge amount of difference week to week.

This week AucklanD race for 152 k in total  and Addington race for $205 k total with 2 more races on. seems fair ? 

52 minutes ago, Doomed said:

There is no real point debating the subject with you Gamma as you really just don't understand how the whole industry works.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I did make a living for quite some time from the Industry in both NZ then Aus. and feel passionate about it. Have a 'little bit' of knowledge how it works . But maybe the Gravestone is already being carved in NZ , buried like Cardigan Bay under a carpark. 

People have given up in New Zealand because of the VERY topic of This thread that Brodie made.

OF COURSE they should race. is the answer.  I think it's terrible for the surviving WORLD CLASS participants the North Island has,  if they don't. Couldn't give a Rat's arse about peoples bets TBH.

Brodie should go talk to Stockman if he wants to put a bet on , and find out how to do it properly .  

[the galah]

24 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

The Sport is DEAD as a betting medium.

Brodie knows it. He can't get a bet on even as likes big bets only.

Victoria HRV is 600,000 dollars in the red. It continues to race for the moment because of Asset value.

There is no way the Sport can survive on betting Revenue . It has to survive without 'Betting'

 

I think its very unrealsitic to think the sport will survive without betting. I know your ever the optimist,but thats  a strange one gammalite..

As to the betting product ,its all about the quality of it whether it generates betting. And i don't mean the quality of the horses/drivers trainers.

its not over complicated. Actually very simple.

Punters bet more on the races that they find appealing and auckland turnovers are poor because obviously,they aren't an appealing betting product.

You've referenced the victorian model.

Gee,if ever you wanted a blueprint of what hrnz is doing,being done in the past,just look at victoria.

past unrealistic spending by adminstrators who seemed quite dumb and incompetent.

They lkept putting money into stakes when generating losses (sound familiar)and ,gee,guess what,they've had to slash stakes significantly. 

i really do think hrnz must have enough money in the bank to keep going paying the stakes they currently are,for the next 3-4 years as i feel the likes of mr steele will only jump ship before the shit hits the fan.And it will for sure,but mr steele won;'t be anywhere to be seen anymore. No one will get a bet on that happening as the tab would have it priced at 1.01 to happen.Actually how about they do that. come on entain,if you have any faith,put out a market on when mr steeles will go. Then we will see whether you believe what you say.Just joking,don't want to be censured.

[the galah]

20 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Galah, I think the handicapping system is open to exploitation, it was pointed out by some that with no stake or rating deductions for fifth that some would be trying not to finish there,  should they not be trying to win or does that only happen when the stakes go up,

they changed that this week mikynz. so you drop a point if no extra srtake for 5th.

[the galah]

12 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Not a huge amount of difference week to week.

This week AucklanD race for 152 k in total  and Addington race for $205 k total with 2 more races on. seems fair ? 

 

3 more races at addington and addington have 4 winter rewards races that are a one off winter meeting. Addington don't run $35,000 races for mid grade horses like auckland do.

[Nowornever]

6 minutes ago, the galah said:

Punters bet more on the races that they find appealing and auckland turnovers are poor because obviously,they aren't an appealing betting product.

100% correct.

[Gammalite]

2 minutes ago, the galah said:

I think its very unrealsitic to think the sport will survive without betting. I know your ever the optimist,but thats  a strange one gammalite..

As to the betting product ,its all about the quality of it whether it generates betting. And i don't mean the quality of the horses/drivers trainers.

its not over complicated. Actually very simple.

Punters bet more on the races that they find appealing and auckland turnovers are poor because obviously,they aren't an appealing betting product.

You've referenced the victorian model.

Gee,if ever you wanted a blueprint of what hrnz is doing,being done in the past,just look at victoria.

past unrealistic spending by adminstrators who seemed quite dumb and incompetent.

They lkept putting money into stakes when generating losses (sound familiar)and ,gee,guess what,they've had to slash stakes significantly. 

i really do think hrnz must have enough money in the bank to keep going paying the stakes they currently are,for the next 3-4 years as i feel the likes of mr steele will only jump ship before the shit hits the fan.And it will for sure,but mr steele won;'t be anywhere to be seen anymore. No one will get a bet on that happening as the tab would have it priced at 1.01 to happen.Actually how about they do that. come on entain,if you have any faith,put out a market on when mr steeles will go. Then we will see whether you believe what you say.Just joking,don't want to be censured.

He's Victoria race for quite low prizemoney now.

The stakes are being slashed constantly.

There Big race of the year (to equal the NZ Cup ) is the Hunter Cup. Swayzee got $142,000 defeating Leap To Fame who got $37,000 2nd. That's just a disgrace for the best horse in the world. In nearly our Biggest race. 

We race for about a half of the amount of your NZ races here in QLD ( except for the Constellations 4 week that just finished) we have 11 months of standard everyday 'boring' stuff now. which is annoying. But good for the participants. 

Perhaps you race for too Much in one meeting ???  152 k  at Auckland on Friday seems a lot for a Mid Winter meeting ?

Perhaps you should 'cut it in half' to meet the 'Turnover' needs some of you are desperately seeking.  

Yes I just hate to think a Sport should collapse because of poor betting. NO other sport does . cricket still continues with no crowd and no Indian bookmakers lol😂😋

[mikeynz]

20 minutes ago, the galah said:

they changed that this week mikynz. so you drop a point if no extra srtake for 5th.

Yes but the whole handicapping system is open to exploitation.

[Gammalite]

9 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

16 minutes ago, the galah said:

Punters bet more on the races that they find appealing and auckland turnovers are poor because obviously,they aren't an appealing betting product.

100% correct.

I hate tennis. a poor sport where millionaire brats and bratesses whack a ball over the net. Some Russian with a name you can't even pronounce will probably win the ladies at the end.

and Some people actually Bet on it . Its not an 'Appealling ' betting product at all.

BUT do WE wish them NOT to Have it ?  no. 

We have Beautiful Horses (Of WORLD Class quality) and Fantastic Horsemen (and women) Competing at Auckland each and every week. But they're NOT APPEALLING  to you guys .

Just an Insult to the fine fine NZ harness racing industry. Barry Purdon near the BEST in the WORLD at his craft , but not appealing for South Islander to bet on . Insulting to the sport you blokes . Lost your money on something probably and just all bitter as chips with vinegar on.  😆

[Nowornever]

13 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Just an Insult to the fine fine NZ harness racing industry. Barry Purdon near the BEST in the WORLD at his craft , but not appealing for South Islander to bet on . Insulting to the sport you blokes . Lost your money on something probably and just all bitter as chips with vinegar on.  😆

It’s not a slight on the talent in the north—just a simple preference for the kind of races that make for a good bet. So nothing personal, and nothing against Barry (legend, by the way). I just like a bit more meat on the bone than a 1.20 winner at Auckland. They can race as much as they like in those 5 and six horse fields but they will not get my money and by the look of the pools on those events not many other people are liking them either.

[the galah]

18 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

I hate tennis. a poor sport where millionaire brats and bratesses whack a ball over the net. Some Russian with a name you can't even pronounce will probably win the ladies at the end.

and Some people actually Bet on it . Its not an 'Appealling ' betting product at all.

BUT do WE wish them NOT to Have it ?  no. 

We have Beautiful Horses (Of WORLD Class quality) and Fantastic Horsemen (and women) Competing at Auckland each and every week. But they're NOT APPEALLING  to you guys .

Just an Insult to the fine fine NZ harness racing industry. Barry Purdon near the BEST in the WORLD at his craft , but not appealing for South Islander to bet on . Insulting to the sport you blokes . Lost your money on something probably and just all bitter as chips with vinegar on.  😆

You seem to be saying because we think the small fields dominated by favorites are an unappealing betting product,then somehow that means we find the people and horses who provide that product unappealing.

whcih of course is not what we are saying at all. 

In fact gammalite,what we are saying is we wish there were more of the people and the horses to make the betting product more appealing..

so how your characterising what w'ere saying, isn't a true reflection on what we are saying.

your not alone in doing that of course. all auckland supporters do the same.

They do it because they can't argue with the fact the betting product is generally quite unappealing,thats obvious.

so they try and make it out to be a criticism of the people up there,when its very obviously not. Its actually unfair when people do that,but hey,its all they got to counter the argument.

Actually,when you say we pick on auckland,actually i don't know about others ,but i've said several times soutthland is  heading in the same direction. And we've all criticised 2 year old races at addington being unappealing. 

Edited 4 hours ago by the galah

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

The Sport is DEAD as a betting medium.

Brodie knows it. He can't get a bet on even as likes big bets only.

Victoria HRV is 600,000 dollars in the red. It continues to race for the moment because of Asset value.

There is no way the Sport can survive on betting Revenue . It has to survive without 'Betting'

That's where you're focused. But not accepting that people don't Bet on the Sport much anymore. Hence all the grizzling. about turnovers and shit like that. Of Course they are LOW these days. The cost of living is too high for people to waste money on horses. 

BUT harness racing it DOESN"T have to come to a DEAD STOP like you say.

Brad Steele and David Brick and other Very FORWARD thinking folk ,  are introducing Slot races and Concepts each year , that are USER pays.  (eventually people will stop grizzling about those ) they were fantastic at Addington last season . and Cambridge. ? that Larry and Arcee Phoenix wins well that was the highlight of the Year really. 

and we got them both here in Queensland to repeat the dose at the Interdominion too. Which was excellent .

Eventually I agree with you the betting will Cease to exist.

I don't Agree That a Sport should Cease to Exist because of that .  Fight hard fella's !!! keep the sport going.

 

Gamma, do appreciate your enthusiasm for all harness racing and your support for NZ racing.

Unfortunately I highly doubt there would be anyone or any company that is willing to chuck money into NZ harness to support it, once Entsin pulls the plug !

It is absolutely so hard to understand how HRNZ is acting currently and it will not end well for harness racing in NZ as a consequence!

At the end of the day HRNZ are supposed to be acting in the best interests of harness racing so they must be using their expertise to the best of their ability?

 

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Not a huge amount of difference week to week.

This week AucklanD race for 152 k in total  and Addington race for $205 k total with 2 more races on. seems fair ? 

I'm sorry you feel that way. I did make a living for quite some time from the Industry in both NZ then Aus. and feel passionate about it. Have a 'little bit' of knowledge how it works . But maybe the Gravestone is already being carved in NZ , buried like Cardigan Bay under a carpark. 

People have given up in New Zealand because of the VERY topic of This thread that Brodie made.

OF COURSE they should race. is the answer.  I think it's terrible for the surviving WORLD CLASS participants the North Island has,  if they don't. Couldn't give a Rat's arse about peoples bets TBH.

Brodie should go talk to Stockman if he wants to put a bet on , and find out how to do it properly .  

Gamma, Steve Stockman is receiving preferential treatment as a punter  by the NZ TAB and personally find it rather appalling!

The fact that he spends mega dollars in the industry by way of racing horses should not give him any better treatment than any other punter!

It is ethically and  morally wrong business actions from the TAB and yet they are allowed to get away with it as it has a monopoly in NZ.

Slot races are fine Gamma as a novelty but there are so few that it makes no difference to the viability of harness racing in NZ,

What is very disappointing is that there seems to be

 a lack of accountability being shown coming out of HRNZ.

Without wagering from punters there will be no harness racing end of story as there will be no stake money available.

Something has to give and it will, and not sure where the Committee that was being arranged has got to?

Edited 4 hours ago by Brodie

[the galah]

2 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Gamma, do appreciate your enthusiasm for all harness racing and your support for NZ racing.

Unfortunately I highly doubt there would be anyone or any company that is willing to chuck money into NZ harness to support it, once Entsin pulls the plug !

It is absolutely so hard to understand how HRNZ is acting currently and it will not end well for harness racing in NZ as a consequence!

At the end of the day HRNZ are supposed to be acting in the best interests of harness racing so they must be using their expertise to the best of their ability?

 

Actually i was reading the segment for the 2 new directors positions currently advertised at hrnz.

What struck me,about the qualitiies they were looking for in someone to fill that position,was they could easily get people who have no idea wahtsover about the realiites of what makes harness racing tick.

Its like they want people to manage the industry who know how to manage other indutries,yet if you follow harness racing you realise harness racing has its own unique issues and patterns. In other words,things that work in the private sector would be the opposite of what you would do in harness racing. 

i mean if they end up with directors who listen to mr steele or listen to some of the dumb arse comments you get on trackside,from people who ramble on about how strategically important auckland is  primarily based on the fact it has a large population,then you will get dumb decisions being made be the new directors as well. Harness racing need people who can think for themselves, not be unduly influenced by the smooth talkers with self interests.

[Nowornever]

6 minutes ago, the galah said:

Its like they want people to manage the industry who know how to manage other indutries,yet if you follow harness racing you realise harness racing has its own unique issues and patterns. In other words,things that work in the private sector would be the opposite of what you would do in harness racing. 

Sounds like exactly what completely rooted the TAB with previous NZ Post employees running the show for a few years getting a fat salary but making the stupid decisions that started the decline into what we have today.