Te Akau secure South Island Trainers’ Premiership

[Chief Stipe]

Also the BS from @Scooby3051 about a SI trainer NEVER being able to win a SI Premiership flies in the face of his previous anti-Te Akau comments were he said they only send down their worst horses and have a shocking strike rate!  Which wasn't true either.

Anyway it looks like @Pitman has been feeding @Scooby3051 posts to post so he can avoid public scrutiny while still stirring the pot.  All @Pitman needed to do with his 429 starters was improve his strike rate from 10.73 to 9.23 and he would have bolted in.  Perhaps that is something a competitive trainer should aim for.

 

[curious]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

 It is still listed under the Riccarton stable but we all know that NZTR are notoriously slow at paperwork.  

Don't agree with that at all. In my experience NZTR are extremely prompt and efficient with this sort of thing. More likely busy trainers a bit delinquent with their change of stable paperwork if that is necessary here.

Edited Friday at 11:34 PM by curious

[Chief Stipe]

40 minutes ago, curious said:

Don't agree with that at all. In my experience NZTR are extremely prompt and efficient with this sort of thing. More likely busy trainers a bit delinquent with their change of stable paperwork if that is necessary here.

Perhaps it is their website that is slow to update.  Particularly changes of ownership.

But I guess the point is that Malmaison was domiciled at the Riccarton Stables for the first four months of the last season.  Now back in the North.  Who knows could still be heading back to Riccarton but would appear to be on a comeback from that last race at Trentham.

[Muzza]

1 hour ago, curious said:

Don't agree with that at all. In my experience NZTR are extremely prompt and efficient with this sort of thing. More likely busy trainers a bit delinquent with their change of stable paperwork if that is necessary here.

But don't hot shot stables employ office staff to do the paperwork.

[Chief Stipe]

31 minutes ago, Muzza said:

But don't hot shot stables employ office staff to do the paperwork.

Geez now we are down to worrying about paperwork.  Who knows perhaps Malmaison is heading back to Riccarton after his Taupo comeback trial.

[Huey]

On 2/08/2025 at 11:26 AM, Chief Stipe said:

Also the BS from @Scooby3051 about a SI trainer NEVER being able to win a SI Premiership flies in the face of his previous anti-Te Akau comments were he said they only send down their worst horses and have a shocking strike rate!  Which wasn't true either.

Anyway it looks like @Pitman has been feeding @Scooby3051 posts to post so he can avoid public scrutiny while still stirring the pot.  All @Pitman needed to do with his 429 starters was improve his strike rate from 10.73 to 9.23 and he would have bolted in.  Perhaps that is something a competitive trainer should aim for.

 

Good to see someone finally see the light, old scoobs is 100% right in this case it is a rort,  nothing unusual there when the chiefs favorites are involved. 

[Muzza]

3 minutes ago, Huey said:

Good to see someone finally see the light, old scoobs is 100% right in this case it is a rort,  nothing unusual there when the chiefs favorites are involved. 

Correct. 

[All The Aces]

Not sure why anyone really cares to be honest. Why are people getting their tits in a tangle? 

There is no official award or prize to the best of my knowledge and certainly no mention of it in the awards at Horse Of The Year next month.

NZTR only shows National tallies for both trainers and jockeys throughout the year.    

 

[curious]

57 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

Not sure why anyone really cares to be honest. Why are people getting their tits in a tangle? 

Bloody good question

[Huey]

1 hour ago, All The Aces said:

Not sure why anyone really cares to be honest. Why are people getting their tits in a tangle? 

There is no official award or prize to the best of my knowledge and certainly no mention of it in the awards at Horse Of The Year next month.

NZTR only shows National tallies for both trainers and jockeys throughout the year.    

 

Then why advertise it as such ?

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Huey said:

Then why advertise it as such ?

Ask @Pitman why it matters so much.

[Huey]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Ask @Pitman why it matters so much.

Why?

[Chief Stipe]

6 hours ago, Huey said:

Why?

My point exactly.

[Chief Stipe]

At the end of the day looking at it without any complexity.  The number of wins in the South Island was:

Te Akau 49 Strike Rate 6.22

Pitman 40 Strike Rate 10.5

So much for those saying Te Akau have an "appalling Strike Rate in the South Island" - it is actually better than their NZ average. 

@Scooby3051

[Huey]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

At the end of the day looking at it without any complexity.  The number of wins in the South Island was:

Te Akau 49 Strike Rate 6.22

Pitman 40 Strike Rate 10.5

So much for those saying Te Akau have an "appalling Strike Rate in the South Island" - it is actually better than their NZ average. 

@Scooby3051

Here we go trying to justify it! 

How about the 8 week clause?

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Huey said:

Here we go trying to justify it! 

How about the 8 week clause?

Justify what?  Pitty throwing his toys out of the cot - AGAIN!  Or the fact Te Akau had 49 wins in the South Island at a strike rate of 6.22?  

Te Akau started their horses 305 times in the South Island and arguably lifted the quality of those races they competed in.  South Island racing benefited.  

Pitman crying a river isn't the South Island way that I was brought up on.  Imagine if Canterbury rugby moaned that Auckland and Waikato had all the advantages and they didn't.  

[curious]

49 minutes ago, Huey said:

How about the 8 week clause?

Do you mean the 8 week clause saying the stable has to have been present in the SI for 8 weeks? Don't see how that comes into play when the Walker/Bergerson winning one has been there all season?

[Chief Stipe]

14 minutes ago, curious said:

Do you mean the 8 week clause saying the stable has to have been present in the SI for 8 weeks? Don't see how that comes into play when the Walker/Bergerson winning one has been there all season?

Correct.  The noise from one quarter is pittiful.